Dumb Red-Pill Argument I’m tired of hearing

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I always see videos on YouTube podcast like The Whatever Podcast or Fresh and fit where they line up a bunch of young girls and ask them questions about dating to set them up for gotchas

The Argument goes something like:

If you have the knowledge that a girl you’re interested in has at any time hooked up with another guy on the first date (or within a relatively short amount of time), then you should expect the same and not settle for anything less because she’s devaluing you and being a hypocrite.

Often times they even frame it with a sales analogy: If that guy bought it for 50$ why should I have to pay 100$.

Setting aside human autonomy, circumstance, chemistry, timing, and general normal human thinking, I never understand why they never just flipped the perspective.

Wouldn’t the girl just have to say well I I know you took this girl on 3 dates and a vacation before she hooked up with you so I expect the same.

Comments

  1. unicorn4711 Avatar

    Both versions are stupid.

  2. SailInternational251 Avatar

    It’s the same sick thinking that Steve Harvey pushed in the 90’s. The idea that if women didn’t sleep with a guy he would commit. What they don’t seem to realize is that many young women have no interest in what they have to begin with.

    We have our own money, education, and security so what do we need from them? Almost every single one of those guys will go on to prey upon some poor young girl working the cash register at Lowe’s. So knowing what I have, what I can achieve the best they can offer is 10 minutes of penetration that I can do myself with better results.

  3. Significant-Dog-4362 Avatar

    God forbid a woman hook up with someone or many and decide it’s not for her and wants to change? The problem is these men see women as they (the men) see themselves as unworthy of genuine love and companionship

  4. MLeek Avatar

    It’s gross and hypocritical, but it’s also just a grift. Those women are paid, often sex workers of some kind, or just IG influencers. No shame on that, but they are there to access the male audience, not engage in substantive discussion. And the hosts know how to railroad or remove anyone who actually calls them on their own shit.

    I know there are people who watched it and take it seriously, but it is just grift. The whole thing is just a commercial for everyone involved at best.

  5. kakallas Avatar

    There’s no logic. It’s all misogyny. 

    What if I fucked a guy because I was horny and he kinda sucked but was hot? So, the next guy feels like he’s being screwed over if I feel differently about him than the first guy? Even though the first guy sucked enough that he was only good for a fuck?

    Men just don’t want women to have sexual agency or any other agency. Women don’t get “credit” for being smart or honest or knowing what they want. They only have value if they’re virgin nun morons until they meet perfect, big-dick dreamboat and then instantly become a mommy-slut-personal assistant for him and only him. 

  6. EastSideTilly Avatar

    its like those dumb man-on-the-street interviews where they ask about body count. grow uppppppp.

  7. Wittehbawx Avatar

    your username is sending me dawg

  8. Outside_Memory5703 Avatar

    I wouldn’t bother caring about the arguments of Fox News XY

  9. coconutpiecrust Avatar

    If you once purchased a tomato at the shop for 35 cents, you must always purchase the same tomato at the same shop for the same price. 

    No backsies. 🙂

  10. iamnotdownwithopp Avatar

    I agree with OP until the flipped analogy. Men have no right to expect sex within any set amount of time regardless of the woman’s past or how much they spend on her in the courtship phase.
    She decides. Period. End of discussion.