Trump is planning to raise the fees for H-1B visa (US employment visa) 100 times. What would be future consequences we are going to face?
Trump is planning to raise the fees for H-1B visa (US employment visa) 100 times. What would be future consequences we are going to face?
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The USA probably won’t be able to maintain their technological edge for much longer.
The H-1B visa program is wildly abused, but raising the fees isn’t the answer. The likely result will be companies moving the work offshore.
They go to China. Say what you want about the Chinese, but they are wise, methodical, and patient.
They see this as a wonderful opportunity to gain the upper hand. And they are right.
There’s nothing he can do. It’s just like the gold card, or changing the lottery system, or just about anything he’s said about the legal immigration system: It has to go through congress. It’s bullshit until it goes through congress. Legal immigration is one of those things he’s been completely stymied on. This is all BS and hot air until it goes through Congress.
Trump has complete control over a few things. The border, ICE (to an extent, he still relied on congress to pass the funding increase), TPS, and most things to do with illegal immigration. Work visas and green cards? Bupkis.
It’s a moot point. We’re already losing foreign investment like crazy since the Hyundai invasion. This is just adding insult to injury. Nobody wants to send people to America anyway, it doesn’t matter how expensive it is.
So no Visa but theyll still offshore all the staff?
Tech jobs moving to Ireland and Canada
I think that foreign nationals are already thinking twice about coming to the US. This can only make it worse.
AirBnB landlorts gonna lose their lunch in Houston.
This is what MAGA and non-voters wanted. Consequences be damned.
IT boom in Canada.
The quasi-slavery abuse of the H1B employed by TCS/Infosys just became massively unprofitable. Hopefully, we’ll see some new tech jobs open up for Americans.
Carnivals are going to close down. The traveling Carnival industry is built on H1B visas.
Well for starters, this proclamation goes into effect over the weekend and is retroactive, so any H1B recipients outside of the US when this hits will not be allowed back into the country unless their employers pay. You have to go home every few years to renew the visa, so this could affect thousands over the weekend, likely to be stopped at airports trying to reenter.
This is all super illegal, nothing authorize this, and I would expect emergency litigation/
At least 10,000 h-1b visa doctors are going to leave the country.
That means thousands of Americans are going to lose their doctors.
Many of these h-1b doctors are already serving Red-voting Americans in underserved areas, so this will hurt MAGA voters disproportionately.
The US has a doctor shortage, so this is not a case of foreigners taking jobs from American doctors.
Once again, Trump and his ilk have shown that they are stupid, and when they’re not being stupid, they’re being knowingly villainous.
People will die from this.
At my first tech job in the US, literally half of our department was h1b Indian folks. I know they did this because you can pay them less, but they were the backbone.
Americans will be forced to work these tech jobs.
There are certain communities that would be deeply impacted by this. The research triangle in NC is full of people whose talents are brought in from overseas to aid major US companies in gaining expertise in engineering, manufacturing, medicine, and other high skill areas that may not be as easily found in the US.
Without an affordable system of accessing their talent, companies will be short the experts they need, and the US may not be equipped with the right balance of population to access those experts.
The fact that Trump is simultaneously making collegiate-level education more expensive means that we’re simultaneously cutting off the number of viable overseas talent we’ll have access to as we are reducing the number of Americans likely to graduate into key fields.
There’s functionally no long-term thinking or even remotely cohesive logic to these decisions. It is very probable that both decisions were made independently out of a radical ideology, and without regard or consideration for how these two independent policy choices will combine to result in a weaker America that is less educated and less capable of engaging in the isolationist policies the administration is supporting.
Regardless of how you feel about immigration being used to bring in affordable experts from overseas, you can’t cut that program to the nub without any investment or plan on how you’ll replace those people if you want America to succeed, rather than fall behind.
The MBAs at my work who all happen to be engineering leaders who don’t understand technology think AI solves the people problem. They also think a network engineer is the same as a front-end engineer and so on.
They are quick to say the decisions they make can be replaced by the very ai they are slamming down our throats. The crazy thing is we already augment our work. 60-80% of the code we do is undifferentiated and handle by tools. That last 20-40% seemingly requires genuine knowledge.
Apparently there is writing in it that says the fees can be waived as the executive branches discretion. So companies that bend the knee will not have to pay these.
This is just another version of the tariff shakedown. He makes this announcement, then sits back and waits for Tata to call him for a meeting. They show up, give him a present, buy a ton of his crypto, and poof! their H-1Bs are free for a year. Repeat for Microsoft, Google, Meta, Wipro…
And the fee never actually goes up.
Rural America is going to miss having doctors
Well we’ll need more learning here to compensate I reckon
A lot of foreign students won’t be coming here to become doctors, engineers, etc. At my job (banking), we’ve already seen huge decreases in foreign students coming in because their visas have been delayed or because of the current admin.
This will result in us still wanting to see the Epstein files.
More foreign remote work and less tax income. H1B’s pay social security taxes even though they often don’t say long enough to collect anything from it, requires 10 years of covered work or something like a disability, though there are ~30 countries where there are agreements around letting it count towards theirs etc.
The US is incredibly dependent on being a 1st tier landing spot for gifted individuals from other countries. That’s already gone. The US is experiencing a brain drain currently that we won’t feel the effects of until it’s too late. Other countries are going to quickly surpass us in all forms of technology.
If you want to see the impacts just go back in history to Germany in the 1930’s-1940’s
If you haven’t been to a medical facility recently, understand we’re in an emergency situation right now- rural areas can’t recruit doctors and nationwide we’re down ~25% staffing needs. Our population is just getting older and sicker as well.
What happens when the brilliant Indian doctor who wanted to go to Kansas and practice no longer can afford it?
This is another short sighted mistake that would never see the light of day if a certain person could abide the word ‘no’.
this will magically make Americans qualified and educated so they can fill those jobs.
It’s going to hit healthcare hard. Many labs are already short staffed and rely on H1B workers from the Philippines among other places. I believe the same applies to doctors and nurses.
This will have unintended consequences. It’s not like manufacturing physical goods. It can be done from anywhere. The tech industry has been preparing for this.
If it costs too much to bring talent to US soil, they will hire them overseas. They won’t be “shipping jobs overseas” they will simply stop hiring locally. Any new job opening will be a globally available position.
I work in the tech industry. All of the major players already have offices overseas. I work daily with people in several different major global locations, not just India. All of them work on the same schedule as myself. The work is seamless. We’d be on Teams or Slack talking and chatting with each other even if we worked in the same location.
They all understand the current administration is pay-for-play, but if the cost is too high, they are prepared.
For everyone clapping about how this will “bring jobs back to Americans”:
It’s not going to matter if they don’t also close the off-shore contracting loop (Spoiler alert: they won’t).
Instead of hiring H-1Bs to live on US soil, companies will just shift to hiring off-shore contractors (which they already do now). Unless a penalty on off-shore contractors is also added, this will functionally do nothing except incentive companies to bribe Trump for exemptions (which is exactly the intention).
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Almost meaningless.
Most likely a threat to placate the masses, the actual fee will either be much lower or waived depending on loyalty to dear leader.
Those companies that must pay the fee will stop H-1B visas, and move overseas, negating them.
Some tech companies will collapse because they can’t find enough qualified people.