“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be.” – Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation.
“Project 2025 won’t happen, it isn’t Trumps agenda.” (As if that has ever stopped THF) https://www.project2025.observer/ shows that 42% of it has already been implemented, when this is arguably the craziest iteration of the Mandate that has been provided thus forward for a President.
Destruction of our institutions. Downplaying the efficiency of protests. Overturning legislation that affects EVERYONE in ways such as Roe V Wade. Pushing forward more anti-trans talking points/legislation as well as xenophobic talking points/legislation.
The tariffs. Destroying our economy just to try to push pressure onto other countries when it has no guarantee to work, which is directly affecting US, our OWN country and it’s people in it when people have BEEN saying that living and paying for general things has been getting worse and more and more expensive.
Allowing unelected members into roles that they shouldn’t be in (Looking at you Elon) when he is blatantly partisan and cannot be trusted due to nefarious reasons.
If people continue to protest and we hit the 3.5% mark and the President/members of his cabinet/Congress continues to refuse to listen to what the people want, then what? If boycotts and strikes don’t work, if all forms of non-violence prove ineffective because Trump doesn’t want to change what he’s doing and the Democrats refuse to be there for what their people want (minus a select few democrats currently), the only thing essentially left is to wait it out and see if things get worse/we win the next Presidency, or the people turn to some form of civil disobedience.
“Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non violence is a piece of theatre. You need an Audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation.” – Arundhati Roy
We already have what is happening with Tesla/Cybertrucks/Dealerships.
CEOs of companies such as healthcare, that have a MAJOR influence in the average every day life of the citizens here.
People are having less and less to lose by acting out for what they stand for. People on the Right politically will say “People are overreacting, they are being told their world is crashing down around them.” Is it less about what is being told, and more about what they are experiencing personally? Nintendo for example just announced preorders for the Nintendo Switch to be delayed which is a direct result of the ongoing tariff situation.
At a certain point I expect if protests do not accomplish anything, something more drastic may happen, because it’s all that can happen. You either fight, or you sit back and take it. Is this what the Right is going for? Establishment atleast, I doubt random people in Texas or Louisiana is trying to have the country turn against itself.
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“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless ― if the left allows it to be.” – Kevin Roberts, Heritage Foundation.
“Project 2025 won’t happen, it isn’t Trumps agenda.” (As if that has ever stopped THF) https://www.project2025.observer/ shows that 42% of it has already been implemented, when this is arguably the craziest iteration of the Mandate that has been provided thus forward for a President.
Destruction of our institutions. Downplaying the efficiency of protests. Overturning legislation that affects EVERYONE in ways such as Roe V Wade. Pushing forward more anti-trans talking points/legislation as well as xenophobic talking points/legislation.
The tariffs. Destroying our economy just to try to push pressure onto other countries when it has no guarantee to work, which is directly affecting US, our OWN country and it’s people in it when people have BEEN saying that living and paying for general things has been getting worse and more and more expensive.
Allowing unelected members into roles that they shouldn’t be in (Looking at you Elon) when he is blatantly partisan and cannot be trusted due to nefarious reasons.
If people continue to protest and we hit the 3.5% mark and the President/members of his cabinet/Congress continues to refuse to listen to what the people want, then what? If boycotts and strikes don’t work, if all forms of non-violence prove ineffective because Trump doesn’t want to change what he’s doing and the Democrats refuse to be there for what their people want (minus a select few democrats currently), the only thing essentially left is to wait it out and see if things get worse/we win the next Presidency, or the people turn to some form of civil disobedience.
“Can the hungry go on a hunger strike? Non violence is a piece of theatre. You need an Audience. What can you do when you have no audience? People have the right to resist annihilation.” – Arundhati Roy
We already have what is happening with Tesla/Cybertrucks/Dealerships.
CEOs of companies such as healthcare, that have a MAJOR influence in the average every day life of the citizens here.
People are having less and less to lose by acting out for what they stand for. People on the Right politically will say “People are overreacting, they are being told their world is crashing down around them.” Is it less about what is being told, and more about what they are experiencing personally? Nintendo for example just announced preorders for the Nintendo Switch to be delayed which is a direct result of the ongoing tariff situation.
At a certain point I expect if protests do not accomplish anything, something more drastic may happen, because it’s all that can happen. You either fight, or you sit back and take it. Is this what the Right is going for? Establishment atleast, I doubt random people in Texas or Louisiana is trying to have the country turn against itself.
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I read a comment that described today as a “Cold” Civil War and I think its 105% correct.
Yes. I think that is absolutely the goal. I also think you are spot on that when people have nothing to lose they act out. I think the GOP is hoping it will be “the radical left” that does something huge. I don’t think that is what will happen though. My money is on an older white man (45+), blue collar, lonely who lost his family (death, no contact possibly due to politics), his home, his life savings, his VA benefits, and maybe soon his Social Security benefits he paid for his whole life who realizes Trump scammed him. One of these guys will be the one who does something big. They’re hoping by winning the male vote and redirecting their anger at liberals that they’ll protect themselves. I think that is arrogance.
I do think Trump can’t effing wait to declare martial law. He just needs an excuse
If BLM taught us anything about the basic playbook we can expect something like this but worse the second time around –
Cause civil unrest ->
Right wing fringe groups and sketchy police allied with them fan the flames ->
“The radical leftists are rioting” ->
Send more police/federal agents to escalate it further ->
Leverage cherry picked chaotic news coverage to do more law and order fearmongering ->
General public accepts more abuse of power as needed “for security”
However, this time it’s not centered around black people,so it’s a taller order without the advantage of America’s racism on their side. Plus some of the unrest is centered on rich people corrupting politics, which even MAGA has complicated feelings about.
100%, I’ve heard a lot of their thinly veiled desire to kill everyone outside their inner circle.
Yes. There are a lot of people in the administration especially Trump himself that are upset that they didn’t send in troops to crack open protester skulls during the riots that happened alongside the George Floyd protest.
It is very important to these people to characterize those riots as being something you compare to January 6 but being far worse. It is important for them to be understood as one of the most violent acts of all time and to pretend that cities were literally burned to the ground.
And it is extremely important to signal belief in the great truth about conservatism; that there must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
At least one of the people who attempted to assassinate Trump was a Trump supporter who grew disenchanted with him.
AS someone else has said in this thread, I think the first acts of violence will come from someone like that.
Yeah
There is the distinct possibility the Trump administration is waiting for the “radical left” to do something large enough to enact martial law.
Something I begin to wonder is what the GOP plans longer term are, because I feel like one doesn’t undertake this sort of insanity with the intention of just handing everything over at the end of the term. Democrats keep talking about mid terms like the Executive branch is paying any attention to congress to begin with.
Modern American conservative politics has always been about getting away with as much as you can without affecting the majority of voters. Neoconservativism was basically a bribery system of seeing how much the average American can be paid in tax reductions before they stop looking the other way discriminatory policy.
One thing about MAGA, is they are loyal to Trump first, and Trump is only loyal to himself. If DOGE stops veterans’ benefits and social security payments and it angers a ton of the MAGA base, he will just blame Musk and sic them on him. In a hypothetical scenario where there is partisan violence being committed, your average GOP politician is in as much danger as any liberal is, and, depending on how deluded said GOP politician is, may be in even more danger because they feel safe.
I’m less concerned about Trump baiting general unrest than I am about him deliberately putting a liberal state in a position that pits local law enforcement against federal ones.
I don’t think it’s a primary goal but I also don’t think they have preventing it high on their list and if it happens they will be OK with it.
Conservatives are largely sitting on their hands scared to speak up. MAGA lemmings are doing whatever Trump says and they think make him look good. Trump is doing whatever he thinks makes him look like a tough guy to keep his lemmings worshiping him.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking there’s some kind of plan in all this
I’m pretty sure that there will be violence of some form. I don’t endorse violence, but I think someone, somewhere will do something stupid and there will be blood spilled over this presidency.
I hope I’m wrong.
Only if you take the bait.