What is the 1%er’s endgame? Once they have all the money and the rest of us can’t afford anything anymore, then what? Snowpiercer? Hunger Games?
What is the 1%er’s endgame? Once they have all the money and the rest of us can’t afford anything anymore, then what? Snowpiercer? Hunger Games?
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They aren’t thinking that far, they just want their money number to go up. Everything else is secondary, there is no plan once they’ve won capitalism.
They’re each working for themselves. If the economy collapses if the 1% get too rich, it’s not like any specific one of the 1% is going to make much of a difference. Either the rest of the 1% will get too rich, in which case you’re better off getting rich so you can try to use the money to get through the collapse, or the rest of the 1% won’t get too rich, in which case you’re better off getting rich in the still functional economy.
I really don’t think they’re thinking that far. But I would imagine the ones who are thinking are probably scared of a revolt.
They want to hover as close to the societal breaking point as possible, therefore ensuring max profits for themselves without having to deal with revolt.
But realistically, these are not people who care about the future or other people or the fate of humanity. They are solely interested in enriching themselves in the now, regardless of the cost others may pay. This is plainly obvious by their disregard for the environment and their fellow country men. They will exploit anything and everything for personal gain. Nothing is sacred but their bank account.
Humans are the most expensive and interesting thing to buy and control. And what’s better than a human? Millions of them. This is how they think.
Tariffs aren’t really about them at all. In fact, half this country will not feel a significant burden from the tariffs. However, the bottom half is basically expected to go into debt and not have a penny to their name. At least, that’s how the math works out.
The tariff thing isn’t a 1%er game. It’s a 0.01%er game. And even then, that’s giving Trump a LOT of credit for simply not being a complete moron.
I lean towards the later because his math is effectively 3rd grade level stuff. The whole process of tariffs they calculated and followed out was academically childish. It shows zero understanding of any aspect of tariffs.
Why does Trump like them though?
Simple. It’s the one way he knows that can get him money without any requirement of going through Congress for it. That’s it. That’s his whole love of tariffs. It’s nothing else. It’s just himself and “get money.” He just hates going through other people. So he doesn’t.
It’s merely unfortunate that tariffs are literally the worst taxation you could ever pick. So we all just suffer for it, for his stupidity.
They want a post-capitalist society.
There’s a story attributed to the Soviet Union. Nikita Khrushchev and several Party figures are traveling in a diplomatic motorcade, and pass some hungry farmers begging for food. This looks bad to the diplomats, so they get out of the cars and offer to buy them some food. But they couldn’t. Not a single one of the Soviets had any money. They didn’t bother to carry it – their power and fame was so great they had no need for mere money.
That’s what the 1% want.
Doubt there is an endgame or long term plan. It’s just “I want the money and screw everyone else”
Its not about money once you have that much money, atleast not like we think of money where we need X to pay for Y. Money is a symbol, its a measure in which they use to value themselves. Most of these people have pushed there entire life to grow things wether its be businesses or profits. To be that successful at that game, it becomes their whole lives & there isnt some magical number where that turns off. Its like people who play games dispite having completed it, they just like doing it even if there is not real world benefits to them. There is no end game, they dont want things to change, they are already at the top of the pile.
It’s not a Bond movie where the villain has some 13 step master plan, they just value money and power above all else so they want as much of those things as possible. There is no end point because there will always be more money and more power to pursue and and endless supply of people whose main purpose in life is to pursue it.
Exactly. People who can’t do anything for themselves somehow think they can do everything.
There’s no centralised conspiracy. Rich people want more money personally, for themselves, and will do anything to achieve that regardless of the consequences. The people who won’t do anything to achieve that, the ones who don’t think the consequences for the world are worth increasing their own personal fortune, mostly don’t become disgustingly rich.
They’re trying to hard reset the economy so they can buy up land once people start to lose their homes and cannot afford to live. They want to create network states where the rich do not have live by any rules and regulations because they believe you cannot have true freedom in a democracy.
When someone is addicted to something. Be it food, drugs, sex, money, power, or anything else. Why? It feels good, diminishing returns sets in, and it’s never enough.
It’s never enough and that’s how the game goes. You could be the king of this entire planet and you will look to the stars for something more.
I’ve often wondered about this. Me, personally, all I want is enough to live. I don’t really want a personal jet, a 60 room mansion, and stuff like that. That’s probably why I’m not rich. I don’t have the motivation to acquire a lot of wealth.
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to live on the streets, and only have 1 pair of pants either.
I hear a lot of the are buying up land in New Zealand because it’ll be like California after climate change. Sadly not a joke
There’s a huge gap in the 1%. A couple of doctors making 800k a year probably want a nice vacaction house, and hope their kids will attend an ivy league school.
Someone making 8 billion a year probably wants to change how an entire industry operates if not a major facet of how we live our lives.
All I know is they don’t read history. This happens over and over again. Few wealthy rule in a very strict society over the rest for a while. Eventually the few can’t hold back the masses and then heads come off of the ruling elite. Rinse repeat. But if the rich share with everyone, then there is no one to exploit. Again rinse and repeat.
Battle royale. Once all those super-poor people are gone, they can start oppressing the real poor – people with only $1million in the bank.
Apparently they don’t believe that the meek shall inhearite the earth
It’s the same endgame as any other gambling addict, they’ll keep playing the game they’re addicted to until they bottom out and can’t bet any more.
The rest of us just have to hope they don’t tank the world economy on their way to the gutter.
1% isn’t as rich as you think it is, people making $250k are 1% and they can very well be living paycheck to paycheck
They want a return to a feudal society. They want to be out feudal lords, we will all be peasants, tenant farmers, subjects and at risk of debtor’s prison.
They’re not a united entity with one single endgame. They probably all have different theories. Gates is not the same as Musk. Say what you want about Gates but he does actually care. Maybe he does it in the wrong way sometimes, but his charity actually tries. Musk is a Dune fanboy and probably sees himself in the God Emperor. The guy who wants to live forever (Brian Thompson I think) just wants to leave a legacy. (if you listen to his interviews that’s the theme that he seems to go on). They all have different relationships to money, to others and to their purpose in life but they’re all billionaires.
Now this could just be bullshit. But I think this is a spiritual war. these 1%ers ALREADY HAVE all the money, all the power, and all the influence. The only thing they want at this point is our spiritual energy.
Mad Max Fury Road
Mad Max Fury Road
War is how they will reduce the population. Then technofeudalism.
Corporate feudalism
There is no endgame, there never was . They are just simply engineering the tomorrow’s society under 2 main factors, ensuring they are on the top and ensuring the bottom feeders become so desperate that they would do anything for even less money than today. I must admit they are doing it in a brilliant way, nothing is being left to chance. The ingrained in the whole world the idea of capitalism to be the norm and demonise any other economic system. People genuinely defend capitalism as the system of opportunity where anyone can become rich even though it is impossible and it works for the ones already rich becoming richer. Then, the masterpiece of the plan, woke culture and raising future generations. Parents can’t discipline their kids anymore because they are enslaved at work so they turn to bloody screens to keep their kids entertained and quiet. These kids will grow up to malfunctioning adults lacking many social and rational skills that will make them unusable for many professional activities and thus AI will take over many of those jobs. It honestly feels we are on the verge of many of those dystopian movies where a tiny elite will rule and control the society.
There is no set end game, it’s a dominance/control issue and more about one-upping other wealthy individuals.
I think they’re much more worried about each other than us.
Listen to podcasts with Peter Thiel, who sponsored—and thus helped create—J.D. Vance. He wants to merge human consciousness with AI, become immortal, claims we are not progressing or innovating fast enough, and says his mission is to defeat the Antichrist. In his view, people are just mass to fuel the desires of innovators, and democracy should cease to exist.
Death via neglect
They want American labor at illegal labor prices. They want to eliminate any ability to prevent children to increase the low class workers willing to work for 50cents a day to try and feed their families. They want to stop spending money on health and safety and “drill baby drill” locally to discount their corporate energy cost and decrease the health of their labor with epa reduction and Medicaid/social security withdrawals, so they can charge them for medical care and medications. They want us all to sell our souls to the company store.
They’ll be dead before they face any consequences.
Most of us believe to some degree that, “the government is run by idiots, that I know the perfect way to allocate a budget and resources, if I was in charge I’d know exactly what to prioritize to build a system that’s just for all. But to do that I need a seat at the table.”
I think this is what it generally starts out as. How much money do you need to basically have the POTUS be your puppet? Well, we’ve seen various versions of it, and currently can see what kind of access $400 billion gets you.
I think this is what it mostly is. Sometimes the endgame is “be the first human to colonize Mars,” which we can all admit isn’t exactly an altruistic goal. Sometimes the goal is “I will be remembered as the guy that ended malaria,” which is a nicer goal but getting to that level of power requires stepping on many toes, which is why there’s an insatiable need to amass even more wealth and power so as to escape consequences when they dare to arrive.
So that’s probably what it is. Some guy that thinks he knows exactly what it’d take to fix a major problem and be immortalized for doing so. One can only hope that major problem addresses the needs of many instead of being some niche monument to one’s ego.
Nothing. Just establish as much wealth and power to compensate for their lack of true emotional connection with another human being, then inevitably die because nothing will matter for them afterwards. Rinse and repeat.
Snowpiercier and Hunger Games is like 1% chance. Higher chance would most likely happen is we look at those 3rd world countries in Africa/South America/Asia where few families or organisations controlled everything and the rest under poverty line with small middle income population group.
Usually the country will be run by cartels, oligarchs, mobsters, rebel leaders, or autocratic/democratic/people something government in name.
In this scale, it would be somewhere between Somalia to USA.
They start taking from each other.
Why do you think third worlders are being imported into Western nations? They happily accept lower wages and a lower standard of living than what we are accustomed to because by their standards, they are living like royalty. The rich don’t have to do anything drastic. The 99% are happily welcoming their own replacements all because they’re too scared of being called racist for pointing out the obvious.
Same as The end game of a hoarder with piles of garbage in their house: More s***.
Yes, hunger games. More entertainment. While they enjoy their lives. There is no “end game”. These are humans who have learned to keep growing and keep learning.
And they will keep growing and keep learning. Forever and forever and forever. And they’ve found what works for them to keep growing. And they will keep doing that growth forever. On an endless growing loop. Grow, loop, grow,loop, grow,loop, grow,loop, grow,loop.
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I think by now we’re talking about the 0,1% actually. which makes even less sense.
There’s a cohort that is all about controlled de-industrialization. They’re intertwined with addressing climate change and ushering in renewable energy sources, but at the sacrifice that civilization will only he able to support a fraction of the current population of 8-billion souls.
A different cohort is all about this notion of “transhumanism” which is about directed evolution of the species through genetic alteration as well as the separation of mind/personhood from the body into, say, a robotic artifice or into virtual computational spaces i.e. no more need to feed so many; immortality as presumably consciousness can be tramsfered; think eugenics.
Both cohorts have in thier rhetoric a massive depopulation (a culling of the species, as it were) — removal of excess humans as automation, AI and so on will do the bulk of maintaining their current standard of life for those at the top.
Then there’s the power-hungry warlords which will conduct depopulation via traditional means of WMDs (including nukes — it’s a question of when not if at this point) — and “vaccines” (genenetic therapies) already piloted during COVID to inoculate against an irradiated scene.
Ideologies and economic hardships will inevitably (as is currently well underway) incentivize the substantial lowering of birth rates, as folks abandon parenthood in favor of scraping by as things (basic necessities) continue to grow increasingly scarce.
I’ve tasted, first hand, the Chili-Lime Crickets with Pumpkin Seeds — totally a soylent green experience.
The end game is, in short, depopulation in one form or another along with the removal of a need for unskilled labor and all sorts of administrative and cognitive work through automation.
The talking points they bandy about for the bottom 90% of the world’s population is horrifyingly heartless, but, they’re convinced the globe will be better off without the masses, obselete as they’re quickly becoming to their well-being (beyond just a potential threat to their plan/engame).
It’s a gambit, and I don’t think these self-styled dieties have thought through the unintended consequenses (that is, presuming their strategies work at all, and the outcome isn’t extinction or near-extinction.) But, by their logic and appraisal, seated on their Olympian thrones, they got their good thing covered and hedged against their intentionally designed calamity.
I could name some articles, videos/talks, organizations and non-governmental agencies that are involved if you wanna go down that rabbit hole … and none of the references could be chalked up as “woo-woo” conspiratorialists. It’s from the horses mouth …
Everyone keeps a score, but people keep their scores in different ways. Some people keep their score by doing something like eating out and they keep trying all the food. Some people like to party so they keep doing that. People who are rich I think is keeping score of their money going up. There is no endgame. People just have different ways of keeping a score of how successful they are in life. Some people measure it by experiences, some people measure it materialistically.
They don’t think that far into it. They’re just feeding the hole. And that hole is never full. It’s that hole that everybody throws shit into, thinking it will make them happy.
These billionaires are more insecure than the average insecure poor dude. And you can’t ask insecurity to be rational.
Corporations need exponential upward quarterly earnings. And that’s impossible. But who’s gonna tell the board that?
Just keep buying shit as fast as you can and don’t worry about it
What do you mean “end”? They want more, then don’t have a plan beyond “more”
Sitting in their bunkers in New Zealand, hoping the guards wont kill them!
They’re a dog chasing a car. They have no idea what to do when they catch it.
In the matter of socialism or barbarism, they’re opting for the latter.
Once they’ve stolen everything from the rest of us, they can only steal from each other. So they send us to die in the wars.
I think there’s an ego-driven legacy aspiration for them. To be remembered, to have made a dent in the world.
Look at Edison, giant douche who is remembered for the lightbulb he didn’t invent without the contributions of smarter people like Nikola Tesla. How ironic that Musk has taken his name so they he can do the same thing with electric cars.
I believe the super elite are stockpiling wealth and resources to escape planet Earth and colonize Mars and beyond. They are draining this planet for all it is worth only to leave many billions of us to die in poverty and pollution. This is the only scenario that makes sense to me. That explains why they don’t care about ruining our home planet. They don’t plan on staying here forever.
most of them are 50+ year olds who aren’t thinking past their own lifetimes. they wanna be as rich as they can until they die and then who cares what happens next.
You already live in Snowpiercer bud, you just don’t realize it.
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I think Elysium would be a better analogy. The rich live in a space station. Where all their needs are met, they don’t let anyone else on it, and the world is pretty much 3rd world working like slave,no Healthcare. Also Icorporated series lasted one season, companies take the place of countries. Also In Time is another good analogy. You pay with minutes of your life they purposely keep people broke, so they die.
Basically, they don’t care about anybody but themselves. They would watch the whole world burn and be destroyed before they accept losing money. The want slave more like indetured servants so they can keep making money. Also they make sure everybody has to keep giving them money so they can control everything
The same as your endgame, are you scheming against people in third world countries?
Why do you think they have an end game? There’s no grand conspiracy, just people trying to enrich themselves and live it up before they die
They don’t have an end game and we won’t be able to not afford anything.
There isn’t some big conspiracy, rich people just like making money. It’s pretty simple.
They want you to owe them forever
Honestly at this point – who knows. Why does anyone with more money than most of us could even dream of in a 1000 lifetimes want more? It’s sick.
The world is being held hostage by these people – it’s exhausting, wish they’d all just piss off.
You’re assuming there is an organised, coordinated plan? Based on what evidence? People like money. People with money like more money. It’s not a conspiracy.
Was there an organised plan over the past 100 years to ensure people in western nations have indoor plumbing? Or did it come about through a mix of circumstances without a shadowy council directing it?
Humans are incredibly adjustable. Whatever our circumstances, we normalise it. If you move from a tiny studio to a two bedroom apartment, you’re delighted for a few months until it becomes your new normal. Likely the living standards of your social circle change too, so you readjust your wants upwards. If you’re a billionaire, you adjust your wants to be super yachts, space flights, and owning top tier sports teams because that’s what the people around you have.
All the people in this comment section, barring maybe one or two extreme eccentrics, would quite happily live in a luxury mansion, given the option.
The boulder doesn’t think about the town. Just the slope of the surface it’s sitting on
They retreat ti their underground bunkers to let us fight over scraps of food