I don’t think I’ve ever seen as many complaints about not having natural beauty. I have noticed they judge you a lot if you wear bold makeup with their preference being brown eyeshadow and barely there lipstick
Is this a red pill tactic ?
I don’t think I’ve ever seen as many complaints about not having natural beauty. I have noticed they judge you a lot if you wear bold makeup with their preference being brown eyeshadow and barely there lipstick
Is this a red pill tactic ?
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It’s a very particular look they are talking about. Men don’t actually prefer “no makeup.”
I’ve no idea what it is about men and opinions in general.
Opinions are like genitalia. Everyone’s got them, but they don’t need to be seen!
I’ve noticed this as well. But then some men also complain if a woman is natural that she’s plain or ugly and should glam up or doll up. I think they want an unrealistic look of fake and plastic that looks “natural”. 🙄
This has been a complaint online as long as I’ve been on the internet (about 20 years).
It’s just incel sour grapes. Ignore them.
They probably had no idea how much makeup women wear until TikTokers started making videos while doing their makeup. Many guys didn’t realize how a lot of women wear makeup and make it appear natural.
They’ve lived in a world of social media and on-demand porn and filters and skin-smoothening software for so long that they have no idea what a real woman looks like.
I don’t give a shit about their opinions, they can think what ever they want.
Anytime men complain about something for women (makeup, clothing, lifestyle choices, etc.), it’s just an excuse for them to shit on women. Ignore the trolls.
Everytime a guy says he prefers women with “no makeup,” what he really means is he prefers not being able to tell she’s wearing makeup.
I’ve had a friend say women always look better without plastic surgery, but that’s only if they can tell surgery has been done. I’ve known a lot of women who have beautiful work done that looks like natural beauty.
It’s a catch-22. If you go natural, then you’re not taking care of yourself. If you put on makeup, then you’re somehow duping men.
They complain about bold makeup because it’s the only kind they recognize as makeup. They think the no-makeup, or any sort of natural color is what women on social media actually look like all the time. That’s why they’re obsessed with negging pictures of female celebrities without their makeup: it shocks them. They feel betrayed by reality, and that makes them MAD. It’s a lack of critical thinking and this sort of mental gloss that happens to the ruling majority, where they literally don’t see anything that doesn’t pertain to them, like makeup ads or news stories that laud women and racial minorities.
I saw a comment once from a woman whose husband had recently discovered the concept of mascara wands. He had lived a full adult life never actually seeing the thousands of print, in-store, and video advertisements that literally focus on the wand and how it works. It literally didn’t exist in his world, just slid into the background noise of things that he didn’t need to know.
So some men think everything a woman does is to attract a man. Even excluding lesbians here, women do things for themselves, and sometimes for men. But if I wear neon green lipstick, it’s not for a man.
Men think they like “no makeup” but what they like is natural looking makeup. Could be simple or a full face, they can’t tell if it’s natural looking. If a man tells you “I don’t like makeup” and you don’t wear makeup the next time you see him, he will complain how you look tired lol!
I don’t know if it is only incels saying this, but they are the loudest ones. An average guy might make the same comment in real life, but just be ignorant.
Control tactics
It’s actually been proven scientifically in a number of studies that men prefer makeup to bare faces. They consistently rate women as more attractive when they’re wearing makeup versus when they aren’t.
What those men are actually complaining about is women wearing bolder, more glamorous makeup because they find it less appealing than more “natural” looks. Some of them are too dumb to realize when women are wearing subtle makeup, some men just don’t like that they’re wearing “too much.”
So it’s just another way for men to complain about women making choices about their appearance that don’t cater to the male gaze.
Like so many other instances, we’re “wrong” no matter what we do. I also suspect a non-zero percentage of dudes making these complaints are unable to discern between “natural” makeup.
My brother genuinely thought this was a way to compliment a woman on her natural beauty by pointing out that she looks “best without makeup”
He was earnest when he told me this, but I told him i’d punt him off a bridge if he ever said that to a date again because he doesn’t get to decide what makes her feel most beautiful and/or confident.
Unfortunately, I don’t think its plain old ignorance most of the time and there definitely are men out there who gripe about it as if its their right to dictate how women present themselves.
Men don’t know what “no makeup” looks like.
Men don’t even know how much makeup it takes to look “natural” so I couldn’t care less about their opinions here.
We honestly have to stop caring…
men complain about everything
Who cares?
They can complain all they want, especially about shit they don’t understand or experience themselves, but we don’t have to give a shit.
Personally I do me and if someone doesn’t like it I don’t take it personally or give it any thought / energy / mental space.
If you see me and your first thought is to critique or criticize my appearance, you are not my people. Period.
I think it’s the natural counter to more drastic beauty protocols (lip fillers, Botox, lash extensions, hair extensions, etc). As those became more popular its natural that some men are more vocal about appreciating the opposite of that
They think we wear makeup for them because they think everything is about them.
It’s all from the same red pill/incel spaces online. I don’t ever hear men I know IRL talking about it because they can talk to a woman without pissing themselves.
It goes WAY BACK to seriously like 15+ years ago while on dates men complaining to me while I wore some subtle make up just to look alive rather than dead and men were SO GLAD I didn’t wear make up. It’s just more product of the patriarchy.
They just need something to complain about and right now this is the popular thing to take issue with.
“These days”? I’m 42 and it’s been a complaint from men since my teens in the 90s. At the end of the day, who cares what they think?
Who is even asking these men? why are they opining?
“These days”? Men have always accused women of wearing too much makeup. The complaints wax and wane as new generations think they’re the first to come up with the idea of “natural”* beauty
*which we all know is actually a style of makeup and changes with fashion trends as well
They have zero idea how natural actually looks like.
LOL men
Men are are going to judge and complain about women if they do wear make up or don’t wear make and if they are percieved as too high maintenance or if they are perceived as not feminine enough.
Best to ignore all that.
For a brief few years women were louder than men socially and on the internet, so I feel like a lot of people in their 20s are oddly shocked that misogynists are back to being the loudest guys in the room. The male preference for subtle makeup to ‘enhance’ features instead of create art is like a hundred years old at least, a decade of makeup for fun was an aberration not the norm.
Where are you finding these complaining men?
There are zero complaining men in my life. I don’t tolerate it. I don’t seek it out online. Protect your peace. Stay away from redpill shit.
A couple of years ago, there was a viral comment from a gamer asking why the character Aloy in Horizon Forbidden West had a beard. The artwork in the game was so realistic that she had ordinary ‘peach fuzz’ hair on her skin, but this was so repulsive to some individuals who’d obviously never seen a real woman up close. The reaction to the post was generally one of scorn, but there’s a sizeable proportion of the male population who have entirely unrealistic expectations of how women should present themselves.
Women do it too it’s so annoying
My best friend is the super health yoga nut and hardly wears makeup while I always do, and she constantly makes subtle digs are women who wear makeup and I’m like cool can you shut the fuck up?
They literally don’t know what makeup looks like lol. They think a woman with a full face of natural looking makeup is barefaced. It’s also so silly how they self infantilize and call makeup “tricking” them. Like, I’m sorry lil baby are you so easy to trick that a bit of mascara makes someone unrecognizable to you? 🙄
Men claim they don’t like makeup, but I get hit on way more when I’m wearing it versus when I’m not. Even women are much nicer to me when I have it on lol. These men don’t know what they’re talking about.
Living in a constant deluge of porn, over sexualized content plus social media algorithms is going to warp what they think looks “normal”. And they’re going to criticize women no matter what we do so do whatever makes you feel happy and confident.
They’re entitled and think that random women should change our appearances to cater to exactly their tastes.