Do you think he is a serious threat? Is he just too powerful? Should he be deported, or? How do you think he should be dealt with? There have been many investigations into Musk and his companies by various agencies and inspector generals, until leadership of those agencies and IGs got fired:
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Deportation.
Real question is how should they deal with oligarchs.
Elon Musk is just the loudest one.
There’s a lot of billionaires mad that they’ve been donating to Dems and making sure to curb stomp any form of universal healthcare, minimum wage increases, nearly all drug price negotiations, protect the carried interest loophole, and more but they don’t get there type of fine and precise control Musk has rn with Trump.
> “These donors are also pissed, watching former and current colleagues have unlimited, unchecked power, and getting richer off of this and they’re not.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/07/hakeem-jeffries-silicon-valley-donors-00203076
There’s a reason why Bernie and AOC’s townhalls are under “Fighting oligarchy” not “Fighting fascism.”
By taking down Citizens United.
Like normally, like anyone else?
Damage has been and will already be done, and Trump will give him a blanket pardon.
If he’s committed any crimes, justice should be served for those. Once that’s done, he should be left alone (tho he has to comply with any new democratic policies, like potentially higher taxes). He obviously wouldn’t be allowed in the government.
This question reminds us of that time last year when he jokes to Carlson that if Harris won he would go to jail… that said, he will likely make a run for it if he’s out of power.
Honestly I’d be fine if his citizenship was revoked.
Screw the "next democratic administration", Democratic state governments could put the screws to him right now if they wanted, by reforming how they incentivize EV purchases. California pays people $7,500 to buy an EV, including Teslas, they could exempt Tesla from those subsidies tomorrow.
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Deport him for lying on whichever past visa application he was revealed to have lied on
Bold of you to assume there will be a next democratic administration anytime soon once Trump and friends same done degrading democracy
Cancel his government contracts. Deport his sorry, subversive ass.
What will happen will be disappointing.
But what should happen is that he is prosecuted, pays fines and does jail time and then deported.
I’d be in favor of denaturalization and deportation if not for the fact that he’d do the same shit in another country. He’s already trying it in Europe. So instead I want to see his arrest, prosecution, the seizure of all of his assets, and the maximum sentence in the toughest supermax prison we have.
He should be arrested and processed and indicted for the illegal firing of tens of thousands of citizens and his absolute election interference .
Grant him his wish and send him to Mars.
Focus on the fact he lied about his visa status and broke the law which is grounds for revoking citizenship
RICO.
Campaign finance reform. I’ve always found it extremely hypocritical that George Soros or the teachers union can do all these supposedly terrible acts with dollars but apparently our hands are tied.
A. We know that’s bullshit
B. Money isn’t free speech
C. Pass legislation to stop it Republicans. Dems would sign onto a bill in a minute. That Koch money that funds mom for liberty might dry up but hey, let’s go you cowards.
Cancel government contracts. Seize assets. Criminal prosecution for multiple blatant instances of securities fraud, and then after he serves time here in a real prison, deport him for immigration fraud.
You know… what would happen to any one of us if we did what he did on the scale of $100.
Seizing the assets is the most important part.
I think he should be in jail.
If they manage to get in, as I have doubts at this point, they need to make an example of Musk and his companies. Whatever the strategy is, the gloved have to come off, and they need to be at least as unhinged as this admin.
I don’t blame Elon Musk.
I blame a system that allowed a non-elected individual with money to suddenly have unregulated access to so much sensitive data and have nigh unregulated ability to weild power over so many people in a blink.
I blame the elected officials for being corrupt and incompetent.
I blame the cultists who ultimately got them there.
I blame democrats for not having their shit together from a leadership "adult in the room" standpoint and not being able to get Trump locked up in a 4 year span , having had gobs of evidence.
And I blame the rest of us who know we need to act but really don’t want to do what has to be done because we keep hoping that we exist in a country of laws and frankly we don’t want to potentially have to bleed for a cause when we know we did all the right things to prevent it and we want to believe that humans are fundamentally good.
Musk is exploiting the system and getting away with it because bad people exist and that’s why people who are decent are having to strategically have foresight to prevent this very thing.
I’m not confident there will ever be another election for the US in the way we’ve experienced in the past. Not in our lifetimes.
He should be arrested. What will happen is that people will worry too much about optics and vibes or what the fuck ever instead of what needs to happen. That man behind a jail cell.
I don’t think Democrats should be so reactive to people and policy specific and instead should focus on the simple narrative. Republicans want to push YOU out of the middle class and into working poverty.
A more condensed and aggressive version of this:
https://www.tiktok.com/@couriernewsroom/video/7434720493091015967
Then present an alternative for the future.
Elon said it himself best, if Don wasnt elected, he was going to jail.
I am not one to try and stop destiny.
Investigate the shit out of him, prosecute him, then kill citizens united
Seize all his assets, privatize all his companies, and send him to Guantanamo Bay.
And repeat the above process for every single billionaire.
I think they should be giving contracts to companies he doesn’t own. Specifically, satellites.
And next time he union busts they should actually enforce the law and help out the Tesla workers.
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Expulsion to CECO down in El Salvador seems appropriate.
But, since I oppose the existence of places like CECO, how’s about we install Elon in an exhibit at the National Zoo and sell tickets to fuck with him. $2 to drop him into a dunk tank, $5 to nail him with a pie.
Asset seizure, prosecution for crimes committed. He’s a citizen not a green card holder, so he can sit in prison without hope of deportation. Have him charged with state and federal crimes he’s guilty of so he can’t just be pardoned by the next republican.
Break up his monopoly and deport him. Get rid of citizens united.
But will a democratic administration do this? I doubt, more like a tap on the wrist and calling it a day.
Take all of his shit and put him on a Space X rocket and send him off of this planet and out of our orbit. Let the fucker float around in the dead, empty vacuum of space for eternity.
State criminal prosecutors and regulators should go after him relentlessly.
Regulate social media.
Biggest lie anyone has ever been convinced is that this guy is a net positive.
End all of his federal contracts. Get NASA to poach the entire SpaceX team and destroy the value of SpaceX. Make him choose to either have to sell it to someone else or take it to his buddies in Russia/China, deeming him an enemy of the United States.
This is all just specific to him. We need many reforms to stop this bullshit from happening more.
Sorry, pet peeve, but the correct term is "Democratic" as in "the next Democratic administration."
Musk is not the problem it is a political system that lets billionaires buy it.
He’s a U.S. citizen.
I sure hope that Democrats don’t do anything too divisive or polarizing, we should try and have more bipartisan unity and make sure that any punishment he faces is doled out in 30 years time (gotta make sure that everything is in proper order!) while also recognizing that this is his first offense (we should have a 3-strikes rule for oligarchs buying our republic and openly promoting fascist ideology)! When they go low, we should go high and let our justice system speak for itself /s
Nah, I’m just kidding. The next President should revoke his immigration status (without telling him) and then send two dozen plainclothes ICE agents to ship him to an undisclosed location somewhere in the world without letting him contact his lawyers. Then take all his stock and distribute it among the workers at his company (80% of shares should go to the bottom 20% in annual income), charge him with drug trafficking, human smuggling, and terrorism (because conservatives/reactionaries don’t think drug trafficking terrorists deserve rights or should be allowed to participate in society), take all of his property in civil forfeiture (he probably used his house and private jets for crimes), have teams of the most skilled IRS agents available go through every scrap of paper he’s ever looked at, and then dump him outside a prison in the middle of nowhere without a phone.
Oh and since he won’t have proper immigration status any more, if a cop finds him he’ll be obligated to put him right back into jail for the crime of not teleporting back to South Africa. I think that would be a decent deterrent in case other billionaires want to try this same shit.
A one way ticket to Mars.
They will do nothing. Dems lose because they have a sense of country, due process, and inclusion.
Anti-trust? Brake it up!
Rescind his citizenship then send him to El Salvador since it’s where all the criminals are apparently supposed to go.
Promote to window inspector?
On a more serious note, it’s a really shitty situation with no obvious solution.
Even if he does something to get the boot, there’s no way in hell he doesn’t get a full pardon from Trump on the way out. Even if Trump HATES him by then, he knows way too much and Trump’s people know it.
They can’t really tell SpaceX to fuck off because there isn’t an alternative.
Bezos is trying to compete with Blue Origin but that’s going to be a pipe dream for a very long time.
NY takes a fairly dim view on securities fraud so that could be an option.
All the things suggested plus Be given “Persona non grata” status.
Tax the rich.
The citizens should deal with Elon Musk, not the government.
Revoke his citizenship and deport him. Then watch all the Republicans call it cruel all of the sudden.
I’ve been thinking about this as my litmus test for Dem candidates. Let’s assume we have elections in 2028 and Dems take the White House. Day one: any & all govt contracts with Tesla, SpaceX, any Musk companies – gone, cancelled, torn up. Any Starlink devices on Federal property – decommissioned & scanned for spyware etc. No commissions to “study the issue” or anything like that; just do it. If a candidate can’t commit to this no-brainer, then I’m not interested.
After that, investigations for corruption, self-dealing, other crimes can be handled as needed.
All you folks focusing on Elon have never been to a magic show.
The magician sets up the trick, then the cute bikini clad assistant jumps around and flourishes her hands and blows on the deck and whatever and it’s all to distract you from noticing that the magician just palmed your card rather than shuffling it.
Elon isn’t the magician here. He’s the assistant. I’m sure he doesn’t look good in a swimsuit, but he is a highly visible attention sponge. So every bit of attention focused on him is attention distracted from what’s actually important.
Elon doesn’t fucking matter.
The next administration should tell him to go back to building cars and launching rockets, where he’s most useful. And then focus on the people with actual authority- Trump and his lieutenants.
I’m quite sure a thorough investigation would turn up plenty of evidence of wrongdoing. Focus on that, prosecute those responsible, and offer every single one of them a plea deal that they walk free with no further consequences AS LONG AS they sign an agreement that for the rest of their lives they will serve no position in government, nor government advisors/contractors, nor lobbying firms. So that way anyone who does wrong is removed from government influence for good.
Fund his trip to mars and don’t let him come back.
Same way we should deal with most ultra powerful oligarchs. Have them actually pay taxes and remove the power of money in politics.
He should be arrested and his assets and wealth should be confiscated under asset forfeiture laws. He is a crime boss and needs to held accountable.
There’s nothing realistic that can be done other than firing Musk from any government position he still holds by then. Democrats are not supposed to be the party of revenge and such
Prison, and freeze his assets.
Democrats played a role in the rise of these robber barons with their subsidies to Silicon Valley through the Obama years. It’s hard to predict the future, but I think the most likely outcome if Democrats regain power is that the relationship between the barons and the government continues, but at a slightly diminished level. If their influence in the government was 5/10 under Biden, 10/10 under Trump, I think the window will shift to something like a 7 or 8 under the next Democratic president. One step forward, two steps back. I think the best we can hope for from a Democratic president is diminished influence from Musk and the other oligarchs. The guardrails for billionaires to mess with elections and the government need to be completely reforged. I don’t know if that will ever happen.
The next Democratic administration should cancel all of the contracts between the government and any of Musk’s businesses. No more contracts for SpaceX, Starlink or Tesla. No subsidies, nothing. The president should also shut down the official @PotUS account on Twitter.
I’d also re-open any investigation that was cancelled and go through those company’s finances for anything illegal and fineable.
He illegally interfered with those investigations with Trump’s blessing so it might be hard to pin obstruction or something on him, but I’m willing to bet a Ketamine addict and raging narcissist like Musk was willing to push the officers of his companies to engage in the occasional illegal accounting trick. Lets find them and remind these companies that falsifying financial records is a crime.
Investigate his companies. There were already investigations underway when he bought Trummp to short circuit them, restart them – restart all the investigations Trump shut down (like the corrupt governor, etc.)
Tax his companies
Tax him
Stop allowing market manipulations and obvious tax dodges and dodgy sales, like selling X to his stupid AI company.
On a larger issue, make Citizens United an amendment, and add that no one can serve in any position for a corporation while working for the government. Add a department to investigate people who get corporate payments or jobs post government career, to ensure that no quid pro quo relationship existed.
Send him to an El Salvador prison.
I have a very dim view of billionaires and an even dimmer view of traitors.
Make of that what you will.
They definitely blocked me (lmao, I win), but, generally speaking, insulting your opponent’s accomplishments is not a winning strategy when it comes to debates.
Just throwing that out there as a helpful tip 🙂
Tarring & feathering?
I think going after Musk should by one of the major priorities of a future Democrat administration. Being the loudest, wealthiest (and stupidest) of the current oligarchs, he is the best suited to be made an example out of.
Hoping a plummer in green takes care of it before then.
The Constitution is very clear on the punishment for treason.
by definitely not appointing Merrick Garland as AG. Give Jack Smith a go, I say.
Damnatio memoriae. Him and Trump both.
Maybe investigate him for 4 years, never reach a conclusion or a sentencing, and hand the White House back over to him.
Hes resulted in the death of millions of innocent people. He’s not innocent. Hmmm.
tax him, implement a wealth tax