Saying it was “the first all female crew” makes it sound like they did something extraordinary instead of the passive, overprivileged experience it actually was.
Saying it was “the first all female crew” makes it sound like they did something extraordinary instead of the passive, overprivileged experience it actually was.
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Even “astronaut” is pushing it somewhat.
Were they given roles? Checks they had to complete? ETC?
If not then yeah they are passengers.
But if they had roles that made sure the mission went smoothly then it makes sense to consider them crew.
They were “crew” in the legal sense so the ship doesn’t have to meet safety regulations for commercial craft.
They are given “advisor” roles to dodge regulations, that is it.
Were the actual crew female?
Seems more important than whether the passengers are crew or not in terms of the accuracy of headlines.
Taking a trip on a boat doesn’t make you a sailor.
Taking a trip for five minutes into the upper atmosphere doesn’t make you an astronaut.
Also, Katy Perry fucking sucks and this is the only way her name stays relevant.
They weren’t even in space, so..
Agreed. The entire thing lasted around 60 minutes. It’s an overpriced carnival ride.
I thought the same thing, it ain’t a crew if they are just sitting there lol
Agree. They were on a thrill ride.
I don’t think this is unpopular. No one believes them as crew for a second.
Actual astronauts who train in science, engineering, aeronautics, survival training, medical training etc to go on missions to push the limits of human knowledge and exploration whilst adapting to life in orbit… versus rich company bring famous and influential people to edge of space for a few minutes… I know which I would say is more inspirational
Bunch of useless narcissists playing make-believe. What else is new?
Furthermore it was not all female passengers, it was all millionaire passengers
I agree they were passengers, but I hope they were fully advised of the risks.
If they were, then they are much braver than I… and I respect them for that.
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No one who hasnt gone through the training that astronauts go through can call themselves an astronaut. Not jeff bezos, not just any rich person, bcz unless u had tasks to do up there, u are just a passenger
‘Passive, overprivileged’ – I’m not afraid to admit that I would 100% do the same thing if I had the money. I just hope that commercial space flight does become slightly affordable in my life time.
The real question is, why are you so butt hurt over it? The flight did contain females only. And she is a celebrity so of course that type of thing would make the news.
So was Bezos and Shatner and whoever else has gone up. 🤷🏻♂️
Agreed
I think in time we’ll see changes to what we call “astronauts” and “crew”
In a few years, maybe in the 2030s I reckon we’ll see lots more celebrities like going to space. And then we’ll need a way to distinguish them from people who are actually working in space, as opposed to passing through.
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If you pay enough someone will call you whatever you want. They are simply getting buttered up because they paid millions of dollars.
It was a joy ride to space. Nobody earned a spot. They went on a joyride on one of the passengers boyfriends rockets. Nothing of scientific significance was done. Just a bunch of fuel burnt for nothing and now we will have to listen to Katy Perry screech about how important mother earth.
Yeah, the whole thing has really pissed my girlfriend off. The fakeness of the whole thing. As if it’s somehow empowering.
It’s absolutely fine if some people want to go on a tourist trip. But don’t pretend its something that it isn’t
Like when spaceX said they did a spacewalk and then just stuck their body out of the hatch like its a sunroof
They’re space tourists.
They’re not astronauts.
Anyone can go to space by paying money.
It takes mad skills to operate a ship, stay in space for long periods of time, and successfully land back to earth.
Those are the people I’m focusing my attention to. Not these people.
Flying in a plane does not make you a pilot. This is Disney world for rich, entitled people.
It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye. The first commercial spaceflight disaster will change things. Saying that, I would go up in a heartbeat.
“Cargo” is probably the word
The whole thing was really cringe, I wouldn’t know where to start
Theyre space tourists and glorifying that is beyond stupid.
Not really an opinion but an objective fact. Passengers are not crew
I mean I think it’s a stretch for anyone to say that this is as extraordinary, even if it was an actual space flight for work
Girlbosses gotta girlboss
Yeah, they’re more just glorified space tourists, barely touching the edge of what we consider “space”
But, they were women..in space!
Spam in a can.
I hate to use the word Bimbo, but in the 70s we’d would have called it the Bimbo Flight. These women put themselves into a position of claiming some kind of worthiness to go into space with a lack of purpose for the incredibly high carbon footprint this leaves behind just to get pics of their hair blowing in the wind and bouncing off of their Big Lips.
not unpopular to be fair. i agree.
also, idea: for every rocket sent to the “edge of space” for no fucking reason by a private company, they are fined a $50 billion dollar fine for environmental harm.
send some fucking shit that ACTUALLY helps us. this “space race” amongst billionaires is just a glorified dick measuring contest that serves no purpose. no we’re not going to colonize mars in maybe even a thousand years, no we’re not going to have $150 dollar tickets to space where we stare at earth from space for a few minutes and drop down
You’re right but I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion. Most people seem to think it is kind of a self indulgent farce.
Furthermore there was no scientific purpose for the trip. It was pure tourism.
They did not even control the space capsule, it was remote controlled on earth by a team of men.
I figured that out when I saw Katy Perry’s name in the headline.
I’m going to agree with this one. I do not consider those who fly with Blue Origin to be astronauts. You’re not contributing to scientific advancements, you’re a supporting a billionaire trying to capitalize on the one sacred place we have left. I’m in school to be an astrophysicist, space is my life and my passion; I despise Blue Origin and the whole concept of “space tourism”. Leave it alone.
Come on OP, I think you’re being a little needlessly harsh. They spent 10 WHOLE MINUTES at the lowest possible altitude legally determined to count as “space”. They might have even almost felt the effects of microgravity during their trip!
Exactly. No one would care if:
Wtf is the point of all this bullshit when we actually have female astronauts in space at the current moment. This is just rich people experiencing novelty.
It’s like saying the passenger in a dirt rally car giving directions does all the hard work.
Too bad they didn’t choose OceanGate
They’re not “crew” or “astronauts” the same way a passenger on a plane isn’t a pilot, or a hiker on Everest isn’t a Sherpa. Some titles can only be achieved through hard work and dedication, not bought
This isn’t an unpopular opinion. Boooo
Cargo. They were cargo.
The funniest thing ever could have happened, maybe they want to appreciate earth from the titan submersible next?
Valentina Tereshkova’s Vostok 6 mission had only one crew member (herself) so technically it’s already the first all female crew
I think this is a popular opinion for normal people, unpopular with news networks for some reason.
Honestly, calling them “crew” seems kind of insulting to actual female astronauts.
Also, Valentina Tereshkova made a solo flight, so it wasn’t even the first all-female space flight.
Wait, Katie Perry is not a trained astrophysicist?
This is not unpopular tbh. But absolutely agreed, its just a carnival joyride for rich fucks that erases the actual accomplishments of actual female astronauts in favor of some privileged billionares
They’re trying to make it all about feminism and female empowerment and I don’t see how one thing relates to another. You’re literally not doing anything ground breaking because you did not create the flying device, you didn’t stay for a long sustained amount of time to look for discoveries and you didn’t come back with any new info for us to learn. It’s literally a vanity trip and the cost of that I’m sure could’ve fed a city of impoverished kids in America. And all they could talk about was getting glam for the trip. How fucking dumb.
I agree. They weren’t actually trained how use the vessel outside of how to sit down, strap in, and keep themselves safe. If anything went wrong it was someone else’s job to fix it and not theres.
I have not stopped dying with the cringe for these women.
Imagine your whole lives work is leading to you getting into space, and KP just rocks up in her space suit from the joke shop.
What’s wild is when jeff bezos went on the rocket ride everyone was condemning him, how evil he is, how much wasted money, all kinds of crap. Katie Perry and some rich girls go for a ride and you got Oprah and the kardashians out there in tears the whole area full of women joined at the arm swaying and crying like it was some monumental event. Bunch of rich people went on a rocket ride … big deal
Wait, they weren’t flying it, they were just riding along?
WOW. I had no clue. Thanks for the information. I really don’t care, but that headline is completely misleading.
fake women. space tourists. in a giant penis. for an Amazon commercial.
Katy Perry acting like she’s fcking Sally Ride.
Very possibly but it is interesting as a lot of unqualified people have gone into space, but it doesn’t get hyperanalysed in this way, only when it is women.
It was utterly disgusting
Yeah that was the first thing I thought lol. Thought I was about to hear of some cool mission to the ISS or something not a bunch of rich Soccer mom’s taking a day trip to space before mimosas a brunch
Valentina Tereshkova has something to say about that title.
They are just rich passengers… Nothing more, nothing less. Why get so crazy over this?
>the first all female crew
It was reported here, “the first all female crew since 1963.”
Which we have a word for. It’s called second.
If you don’t go into orbit did you REALLY go into space
six women in a cockpit doesn’t make a crew
What I wonder about these flights with celebrities is this? What contingencies are there if something were to go wrong, however small, a computer glitch or something. Do they have backup plans?
When they started yelling “oh my goddess” I was so embarrassed for them. Like imagine being that cringey that you planned out phrases to say like that?
I wish we could move on and pretend this didn’t happen. I don’t care that a bunch of famous women who didn’t deserve to go into space rode on Bezos’ cock rocket.
Why let the truth get in the way of a good story! Seems to be the way the world is these days.
I would have been more impressed if they donated the cost of the flight tickets to charity instead. The effects would have been much more impactful and longer lasting.
they also slipped up and called them astronauts. absolutely not. I totally agree they were just passengers.
It wasn’t even the first all female space(ish) ride.
Russia launched an ACTUAL SOLO FEMALE COSMONAUT fully into space, where she had real technical duties and orbited the planet before returning.
They did this like 50 years ago, but she didn’t post it on Instagram and use it to sell products so maybe it shouldn’t count…
It was a dei move.
They can be called whatever they want, just don’t expect them to do anything
From what it seems like two of them were actual scientists but yeah, this was just a disgrace to the planet. We accomplished nothing by doing it except pandering to some rich people and burning a fuck ton of fuel
I assume there still needs to be an actual crew, even if all the passengers are women. So to make this statement the pilot or whatever other crew was aboard would need to be female.
I’m just amazed the wigs stayed on.
Suni Williams is an astronaut
Katy Perry is not an astronaut
What a disgrace to actual female astronaut crew members.
The entire notion of wasting space flights on billionaires is honestly disgusting. As long as any space flight is hella expensive, time consuming and ressource intensive, the only ones on such flights shouldlbe scientists that can do something useful with that time.
If you want a billionaire-worthy joyride, go build a submarine
The all-round hubris to publicise this event amongst everything that’s happening is genuinely astonishing, I’ve not seen a single internet user since it happened receive it positively.
Downvote because this is not an unpopular opinion this is just what happened. The fact that this has 2000 up votes because you’re stating a fact just shows you how little this subreddit actually means
Bunch of rich people going a bit higher then a commerical flight, didn’t go to space and didn’t do anything to earn being up there.
Gods but i hope the next rich flight explodes.
What was the gender of the people flying it? If they were women then it was all female crew but the celebrities weren’t part of that crew. If men were controlling it then it’s clearly bollocks.
If it was completely controlled by people on the ground, they’re still just passengers.
Who flew the rocket?
just in case no one else has mentioned it yet, this should not apply to amanda nguyen! she’s the only exception!
Just like the OceanGate sub
This was a pointless, egregiously wasteful exercise that had no value other than publicity. It’s not even as though they’re the first women in space, if you can call that going into space. Sorry Jeff, all this hoopla still won’t make you taller or less bald
One of these ladies, Amanda Nguyen, was previously in an astronaut training program that often collaborated, but is not associated, with NASA. The name of the program was the International Institute of Astronautical Sciences and they have had at least one graduate be selected as a NASA astronaut. I would say she could be considered the ‘crew member’ with the most experience. As an aside, her life story, how she came into and out the astronaut program, is pretty interesting and inspiring I’d say. You can read about it from Wikipedia.
The fact that this very popular opinion got almost 3k upvotes means that this entire sub has become useless.
This isn’t an unpopular opinion though.
So unpopular. So brave. Wow
Nothing they did was impressive. But what the engineers pulled off was incredible