The next available step, at least in the normal course of things, is to hold President Trump in contempt of the court and have him arrested for noncompliance. Which would be terrifying, but baller.
ive never seen america turn into the shitshow it is today ive been praying for this my entire immigrant and poor life and its bittersweet no one even k ows how to move because all the people with actual power are just trump dick riders
A bit of history which it looks like we may be doomed to repeat.
“Under Andrew Jackson, who was debatably one of the most dangerous presidents in U.S. History. President Andrew Jackson defied the U.S. Supreme Court regarding Georgia and the Cherokee Nation in the famous case Worcester v. Georgia (1832).
The Supreme Court, under Chief Justice John Marshall, ruled that Georgia had no right to enforce laws within Cherokee territory because Native American tribes were sovereign nations. The ruling was a major victory for the Cherokee, affirming their legal right to remain on their land.
Instead of enforcing the ruling, Jackson allegedly responded: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” Jackson sided with Georgia’s state government, which ignored the Supreme Court ruling and continued its efforts to remove the Cherokee people. This decision by Jackson sets an awful precedent. Jackson is essentially saying, the Supreme Court doesn’t have an army to enforce their decision, so they can’t enforce it. Congress viewed Jackson’s decision as a matter of executive discretion. Jackson was popular and nothing happened to him for defying the supreme court. This exposed the inability of the Supreme Court to force a president to comply, if they didn’t also have the support of Congress.
The checks and balances designed to protect against tyranny and ensure fair governance can quickly erode, threatening the long-term survival of the country. Upholding these principles is not merely a matter of historical interest—it is vital for maintaining a government that is accountable, just, and protective of the rights of its citizens.
Despite the ruling, Jackson pushed forward with the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which led to the forced relocation of the Cherokee and other Native American tribes to present-day Oklahoma.”
Usually they can hold them in criminal contempt of court, a judge can then appoint a special prosecutor that does not fall under the DOJ inorder to prosecute the contempt. Federal marshals are duty bound to follow the court orders but also fall under the DOJ so there isna conflict there. That judge could then hold the marshals in contempt as well if they do not follow through with the orders and again those contempt charges are not subject to DOJ interference, so this is likely one of the only vectors our legal system has to complel compliance of the federal gov and the executive branch
If only the American people knew the dangers of electing a crazy person and knew what he would do. Oh wait everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together did know but at least he’s not a black woman I guess right? I fucking hate living here. Americans are truly regarded.
There are 3 branches of government. The supreme court is part of the government, as they head the judicial branch. If the president, who heads the execute branch, breaks the law then the supreme court can tell congress to do something about it. Congress makes up the legislative branch of government. And if they decline to enforce the supreme court’s ruling, then nothing happens.
One suggestion I read that was interesting: the judge could issue civil financial penalties personally to any attorneys who are in contempt. Like really ruinous level penalties. Make an example of a few of the DOJ lawyers and maybe the rest will refuse to lie in court for the administration.
If the judge issues criminal penalties, Trump can just pardon the them. Also, since the US Marshals Service is part of the executive branch it would be problematic to order them to carry out criminal penalties. So civil penalties might be a better choice.
“The king hath no prerogative but what the law of the land allows him.” (Case of Proclamations, 1610)
The US President is the chief executive, equivalent to the chairman of the executive committee of the privy council (today, officially called “prime minister “). He is not the equivalent of a king.
One way or another, the president has no power that is above the law. That means the Congress can regulate it and the courts can test any exercise of the power for validity.
It also means that courts can enforce the law in the event of breach. While Trump is in jail, Vance will be acting president under the 25th amendment. I wonder if it will go to his head.
Can we stop with the justice cosplay? Nothing will happen to Trump. We have reached the “all out of ideas” phase of resistance.
Trump is personally immune from all laws. The administration can ignore checks and balances because – wildcard – the executive branch enforces the law. Congress is compromised. Big tech is in his pocket.
Trump may be an imbecile but he found his way into being the most powerful senescent dotard on the planet.
The Supreme Court gave the person with the pardon power immunity.
The requested delegation of your taxes (as instructed by your [emphasis on your] congressional representatives) has been ignored (by an illegal immigrant; president with the immunity of kings). You’ve now been taxed without representation…
The founders gave you an amendment to protect the rest of the Constitution in the wake of a “no taxation without representation” rebellion.
Keep holding signs though. It’s what your leaders did too. Thank goodness that fixed it. pushes up Schumer glasses
January 6th proved that the law is not as meaningful as we all thought. At the end of the day, if somebody disagrees with the law they can simply use force to override it, and even be rewarded(released) afterwards…as long as the folks of power agree with your actions.
It’s all fun and games until it’s your beliefs that don’t align.
Jail the last lawyer(s) representing the Administration in court. Hold them until the Administration is in compliance.
Initiate disbarment against every lawyer involved, all the way to the AG.
Any Supreme Court case brought by the Trump Administration should either be sent back to the lower court, or held in abeyance, till the Administration comes back into compliance with the courts.
Any Supreme Court case brought by others, but being defended by the Trump Administration, should be ruled for the plaintiffs. or held in abeyance, till the Administration is in compliance.
All Trump Admin officers and officials involved should be fined a not so insignificant amount every day the Administration in not in compliance.
I mean if the highest court in the land is ignored by federal law enforcement personnel, then citizens should be given the green light to disregard the legitimacy of these rogue agents.
Nothing they can do besides hold them in contempt. If the authorities refuse to arrest them, deputize new ones until someone will or until the administration removes aforementioned judge and, I dunno, ships them off to El Salvador or whatever. The whole separation of powers thing was meant to rely on congress impeaching unlawful members of the executive, if they have no interest in doing that the executive is effectively a king for four year increments.
they can’t do much of anything except hold someone in contempt of court and obviously you can’t hold the United States government in contempt of court when the government controls the department of Justice.
Sanction the attorneys. They can be fined or disbarred. Current they are held in Contempt but the judge is being lenient. If he wanted he could start imposing civil penalties like fines and civil penalties cannot be pardoned.
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They enforce it with their own branches of martial enforcement under their purview.
Saying “US government” is a bit misleading. It’s just the executive branch that is disobeying.
Those judges are just as much the US government as the president
Hold them in “contempt of court.”
The next available step, at least in the normal course of things, is to hold President Trump in contempt of the court and have him arrested for noncompliance. Which would be terrifying, but baller.
Issue arrest orders.
Arrest the perpetrators
Arrest them.
What do you expect them to do? They have neither the power to enforce their decisions nor obligate funding.
Imagine having the power of immunity in such a situation.
ive never seen america turn into the shitshow it is today ive been praying for this my entire immigrant and poor life and its bittersweet no one even k ows how to move because all the people with actual power are just trump dick riders
A bit of history which it looks like we may be doomed to repeat.
“Under Andrew Jackson, who was debatably one of the most dangerous presidents in U.S. History. President Andrew Jackson defied the U.S. Supreme Court regarding Georgia and the Cherokee Nation in the famous case Worcester v. Georgia (1832).
The Supreme Court, under Chief Justice John Marshall, ruled that Georgia had no right to enforce laws within Cherokee territory because Native American tribes were sovereign nations. The ruling was a major victory for the Cherokee, affirming their legal right to remain on their land.
Instead of enforcing the ruling, Jackson allegedly responded: “John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!” Jackson sided with Georgia’s state government, which ignored the Supreme Court ruling and continued its efforts to remove the Cherokee people. This decision by Jackson sets an awful precedent. Jackson is essentially saying, the Supreme Court doesn’t have an army to enforce their decision, so they can’t enforce it. Congress viewed Jackson’s decision as a matter of executive discretion. Jackson was popular and nothing happened to him for defying the supreme court. This exposed the inability of the Supreme Court to force a president to comply, if they didn’t also have the support of Congress.
The checks and balances designed to protect against tyranny and ensure fair governance can quickly erode, threatening the long-term survival of the country. Upholding these principles is not merely a matter of historical interest—it is vital for maintaining a government that is accountable, just, and protective of the rights of its citizens.
Despite the ruling, Jackson pushed forward with the Indian Removal Act of 1830, which led to the forced relocation of the Cherokee and other Native American tribes to present-day Oklahoma.”
Usually they can hold them in criminal contempt of court, a judge can then appoint a special prosecutor that does not fall under the DOJ inorder to prosecute the contempt. Federal marshals are duty bound to follow the court orders but also fall under the DOJ so there isna conflict there. That judge could then hold the marshals in contempt as well if they do not follow through with the orders and again those contempt charges are not subject to DOJ interference, so this is likely one of the only vectors our legal system has to complel compliance of the federal gov and the executive branch
Not sure but I find it hilarious Trump rigged the courts and had to defy them too. Past the point of being scared this is stupid apocalypse
glair and shake their heads…🙄 what other options do they have!?
ANARCHY!?
If?
If only the American people knew the dangers of electing a crazy person and knew what he would do. Oh wait everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together did know but at least he’s not a black woman I guess right? I fucking hate living here. Americans are truly regarded.
There are 3 branches of government. The supreme court is part of the government, as they head the judicial branch. If the president, who heads the execute branch, breaks the law then the supreme court can tell congress to do something about it. Congress makes up the legislative branch of government. And if they decline to enforce the supreme court’s ruling, then nothing happens.
Or this. What should the Government do to US Judges issuing unlawful orders?
“Lawful “ is the operative word there
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One suggestion I read that was interesting: the judge could issue civil financial penalties personally to any attorneys who are in contempt. Like really ruinous level penalties. Make an example of a few of the DOJ lawyers and maybe the rest will refuse to lie in court for the administration.
If the judge issues criminal penalties, Trump can just pardon the them. Also, since the US Marshals Service is part of the executive branch it would be problematic to order them to carry out criminal penalties. So civil penalties might be a better choice.
Sounded like a solid plan to me.
“The king hath no prerogative but what the law of the land allows him.” (Case of Proclamations, 1610)
The US President is the chief executive, equivalent to the chairman of the executive committee of the privy council (today, officially called “prime minister “). He is not the equivalent of a king.
One way or another, the president has no power that is above the law. That means the Congress can regulate it and the courts can test any exercise of the power for validity.
It also means that courts can enforce the law in the event of breach. While Trump is in jail, Vance will be acting president under the 25th amendment. I wonder if it will go to his head.
use the reverse uno card!
The only recourse is impeachment. And no way will that happen with the MAGAsshats running Congress.
Can we stop with the justice cosplay? Nothing will happen to Trump. We have reached the “all out of ideas” phase of resistance.
Trump is personally immune from all laws. The administration can ignore checks and balances because – wildcard – the executive branch enforces the law. Congress is compromised. Big tech is in his pocket.
Trump may be an imbecile but he found his way into being the most powerful senescent dotard on the planet.
I’m not sure why my fellow Americans lie in wait…
The Supreme Court gave the person with the pardon power immunity.
The requested delegation of your taxes (as instructed by your [emphasis on your] congressional representatives) has been ignored (by an illegal immigrant; president with the immunity of kings). You’ve now been taxed without representation…
The founders gave you an amendment to protect the rest of the Constitution in the wake of a “no taxation without representation” rebellion.
Keep holding signs though. It’s what your leaders did too. Thank goodness that fixed it. pushes up Schumer glasses
Cry in the bathroom.
January 6th proved that the law is not as meaningful as we all thought. At the end of the day, if somebody disagrees with the law they can simply use force to override it, and even be rewarded(released) afterwards…as long as the folks of power agree with your actions.
It’s all fun and games until it’s your beliefs that don’t align.
That’s what the military and second amendment is for.
Me spit-baling here:
idk shoot them or something
cry
Burn that shit down
Start throwing trump lawyers in jail
Let’s just arrest the president. No due process right?
A better question would be: what should citizens do when a tyrant seizes power and becomes king?
That didn’t happen, so don’t worry about it.
Revoke their authority over citizens.
I mean if the highest court in the land is ignored by federal law enforcement personnel, then citizens should be given the green light to disregard the legitimacy of these rogue agents.
Nothing they can do besides hold them in contempt. If the authorities refuse to arrest them, deputize new ones until someone will or until the administration removes aforementioned judge and, I dunno, ships them off to El Salvador or whatever. The whole separation of powers thing was meant to rely on congress impeaching unlawful members of the executive, if they have no interest in doing that the executive is effectively a king for four year increments.
Start throwing government officials in jail. The bucks stop at trump.
they can’t do much of anything except hold someone in contempt of court and obviously you can’t hold the United States government in contempt of court when the government controls the department of Justice.
what can they do? at this point just bark and that administration will just do what they want
Hands up those of you willing to be deputized.
Sanction the attorneys. They can be fined or disbarred. Current they are held in Contempt but the judge is being lenient. If he wanted he could start imposing civil penalties like fines and civil penalties cannot be pardoned.