Go post in English in r/PuertoRico; just about everybody there understands English but they will still bitch at you if you post in English. The rest of the island population is less skilled in English and more committed to la lengua materna, the voice that Julia de Burgos and Lola Rodriguez de tío spoke with.
If they become an independent country, wouldn’t mind. It’s their own choice. If they still under the thumb of the US and no longer speak Spanish… I’ll be sure, they deserved to be miserable.
Spanish is the key for their independence and freedom tho.
The Americans tried to get rid of spanish and force English into schools as well as enforcing and trying to assimilate PRicans into USA culture when they first took over, and there was mass resistance from the island’s populace so they gave up on it. Look up the ley de mordaza/gag law if you’re interested, but long story short it will not work. Most puertorricans in the island only speak Spanish with some especially in urban areas that grew up with cable TV (which comes from the US) or went to expensive private schools with immersion English education (the island’s elite tend to go to these schools) will have a greater grasp in English with many being more fluent, but this is a minority you will see overrepresented online in English speaking spaces like Reddit.
In short, it will not happen any time soon even with English fluency going up in the island due to continued popular resistance.
PR is definitely misunderstood by the rest of LatAm for being a US territory and waved off as more gringos, but it really is very much its own thing and a very unique situation culturally.
The population of island born Puerto Ricans get lower and lower every year, most of them go stateside more and more every year and the island is being inhabited by crypto kings with massive McMansion!
Straight up this is either a totally stupid or trolly question designed to stir up sh*t. Puerto Ricans speak Spanish as their primary language and no one wants to change that.
Well, it’s up to the Puerto Ricans to decide what they want for their nation (note, nation and country are not necessarily the same thing). There are more Puerto Ricans living in mainland USA than in Puerto Rico, so that may say something about where they prefer living currently.
I personally have no opinion, other than it is nice to have another Spanish speaking country whom I can communicate with the same language and consume their media, plus PR’s musical influence is quite vast in the contemporary scene, so it would be sad to see the language disappear. But at the same time, I look at things objectively. Some languages just naturally disappear and get replaced by different languages, like like Egyptian Coptic got replaced by Arabic; Iberian, Celtiberian, Tartessian, and Lusitanian got replaced by Latin, which evolved to the Ibero-Romance languages like Castilian (Spanish), Gallego-Portuguese, Aragonese, etc. Same for the Taino language of Puerto Rico, getting replaced by Spanish. So it’s really just a natural process of human history for languages to disappear based on who is the dominant power or holds the most prestige in that region.
My theory of PR becoming a state is that it would get the same treatment as Hawaii. I had some people debate with me saying that wouldn’t be the case because it was a different time when the U.S. annexed Hawaii. I don’t think the U.S. cares what time we’re in. If that does happen it would be honestly sad seeing PR losing their culture over time. I’m not Puerto Rican but I don’t want Puerto Ricans to lose their culture or stop speaking Spanish, especially in the city where I live (New York) Puerto Ricans have contributed so much to this city and it would just be something lost in the past.
What a dumb post…. except if it was total troll, to cause people to understand how other people feel about language. Mangle French for one second in France, they’ll insist on your English… perspectives.
At which point can English speakers ask to not have their language absconded?
Well, there could be a Creolization of the language with the amount of anglicisms Puerto Ricans use compared to other Latin Americans. Puerto Rican Spanish might become the first Spanish-English creole language, but I think it’s unlikely. If they become a state and get the Hawaii treatment the language might be endangered.
I can see this happening… They already use a lot of English words in their everyday vocabulary. Moreover, if they ever do become a state, it will definitely happen. Just like it happened to Hawaii.
I don’t think we will ever stop speaking Spanish but I do think that Spanglish will become a lot more prevalent in the future,sadly. A lot of the younger generation uses English words and phrases to express themselves and the usage of Spanglish will only increase with the social media exposure to American culture. For example, when I was younger I would never hear the word “spot” to describe a place, and now a lot of young people use it. They will say something like “ Ese spot allí se ve bien lindo” or “ tengo un secret spot en la playa”. I hate it but sadly they all get defensive when you call them out on it and tell them to speak right.
Interesting fact: there is a law in Spain by which people of Spanish ancestry, as far as great grandparents born in Spain. can request Spanish citizenship. Through this, thousands of Spanish descendants throughout Latin America have submitted requests for citizenship and passports. Thousands of others already have become citizens even if they don’t plan on moving to Spain.
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It’s a likely outcome, nothing to be surprised about. Happens to many territories under an empire.
I don’t think this is a big deal for anyone other than puerto ricans… for the spanish world that island is long gone..
It depends, if it’s Friday I’ll be tired. If it’s Monday, I’ll be cranky.
Who cares?
Well this will really anger many folks still living in Puerto Rico. If this happens is like erasing everything about Puerto Rico roots.
Probably cultural genocide coming from the US
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Go post in English in r/PuertoRico; just about everybody there understands English but they will still bitch at you if you post in English. The rest of the island population is less skilled in English and more committed to la lengua materna, the voice that Julia de Burgos and Lola Rodriguez de tío spoke with.
too far away for me to care tbh
I would be very sad because the Puerto Rican Spanish accent is delicious
Si, bueno. ¿Quién tiene hambre?
If they become an independent country, wouldn’t mind. It’s their own choice. If they still under the thumb of the US and no longer speak Spanish… I’ll be sure, they deserved to be miserable.
Spanish is the key for their independence and freedom tho.
The Americans tried to get rid of spanish and force English into schools as well as enforcing and trying to assimilate PRicans into USA culture when they first took over, and there was mass resistance from the island’s populace so they gave up on it. Look up the ley de mordaza/gag law if you’re interested, but long story short it will not work. Most puertorricans in the island only speak Spanish with some especially in urban areas that grew up with cable TV (which comes from the US) or went to expensive private schools with immersion English education (the island’s elite tend to go to these schools) will have a greater grasp in English with many being more fluent, but this is a minority you will see overrepresented online in English speaking spaces like Reddit.
In short, it will not happen any time soon even with English fluency going up in the island due to continued popular resistance.
PR is definitely misunderstood by the rest of LatAm for being a US territory and waved off as more gringos, but it really is very much its own thing and a very unique situation culturally.
I’ll be even more confused onto why US still doesn’t accept Puerto Rico is their 51st state
They never spoke Spanish in the first place
Well, any respect I had left for them would be gone. They are already the most cucked territory in latin america (they are not a country) so…
I would dare say that most of us, except for them, would not care at all.
Oh the US genociding a culture to build resorts! I would be shocked, thats so unlile them
We can finally exclude them from r/asklatinamerica 😛
Amazed. Shit, the U.S. can’t even get the Navajo to stop talking Diné and they’ve had them under much tighter control for considerably longer.
I would cry
Reguetón would be in English, so thats a win.
The population of island born Puerto Ricans get lower and lower every year, most of them go stateside more and more every year and the island is being inhabited by crypto kings with massive McMansion!
As long as it’s not English
Straight up this is either a totally stupid or trolly question designed to stir up sh*t. Puerto Ricans speak Spanish as their primary language and no one wants to change that.
Why is everyone being so mean omg??
Y cuando han hablado?
The posts in this sub are so weird and nonsensical. Love it.
I wouldn’t care that much, all I care about is their blood and if it remains pure if it isn’t pure idrc if they speak Spanish Chinese or English
Well, it’s up to the Puerto Ricans to decide what they want for their nation (note, nation and country are not necessarily the same thing). There are more Puerto Ricans living in mainland USA than in Puerto Rico, so that may say something about where they prefer living currently.
I personally have no opinion, other than it is nice to have another Spanish speaking country whom I can communicate with the same language and consume their media, plus PR’s musical influence is quite vast in the contemporary scene, so it would be sad to see the language disappear. But at the same time, I look at things objectively. Some languages just naturally disappear and get replaced by different languages, like like Egyptian Coptic got replaced by Arabic; Iberian, Celtiberian, Tartessian, and Lusitanian got replaced by Latin, which evolved to the Ibero-Romance languages like Castilian (Spanish), Gallego-Portuguese, Aragonese, etc. Same for the Taino language of Puerto Rico, getting replaced by Spanish. So it’s really just a natural process of human history for languages to disappear based on who is the dominant power or holds the most prestige in that region.
My theory of PR becoming a state is that it would get the same treatment as Hawaii. I had some people debate with me saying that wouldn’t be the case because it was a different time when the U.S. annexed Hawaii. I don’t think the U.S. cares what time we’re in. If that does happen it would be honestly sad seeing PR losing their culture over time. I’m not Puerto Rican but I don’t want Puerto Ricans to lose their culture or stop speaking Spanish, especially in the city where I live (New York) Puerto Ricans have contributed so much to this city and it would just be something lost in the past.
What a dumb post…. except if it was total troll, to cause people to understand how other people feel about language. Mangle French for one second in France, they’ll insist on your English… perspectives.
At which point can English speakers ask to not have their language absconded?
Upon geography?
It would be sad for them to no longer speak their version of our language. Funny enough in the Americas, it would still be the main language spoken.
“Colonialism truly is as dangerous as they claim!”
That won’t happen.
Jajaja
Well, there could be a Creolization of the language with the amount of anglicisms Puerto Ricans use compared to other Latin Americans. Puerto Rican Spanish might become the first Spanish-English creole language, but I think it’s unlikely. If they become a state and get the Hawaii treatment the language might be endangered.
I can see this happening… They already use a lot of English words in their everyday vocabulary. Moreover, if they ever do become a state, it will definitely happen. Just like it happened to Hawaii.
I hope this never happens to them
I literally could not care less even if I tried my absolute hardest
I don’t care.
I don’t think we will ever stop speaking Spanish but I do think that Spanglish will become a lot more prevalent in the future,sadly. A lot of the younger generation uses English words and phrases to express themselves and the usage of Spanglish will only increase with the social media exposure to American culture. For example, when I was younger I would never hear the word “spot” to describe a place, and now a lot of young people use it. They will say something like “ Ese spot allí se ve bien lindo” or “ tengo un secret spot en la playa”. I hate it but sadly they all get defensive when you call them out on it and tell them to speak right.
Oh well🤷♂️
Interesting fact: there is a law in Spain by which people of Spanish ancestry, as far as great grandparents born in Spain. can request Spanish citizenship. Through this, thousands of Spanish descendants throughout Latin America have submitted requests for citizenship and passports. Thousands of others already have become citizens even if they don’t plan on moving to Spain.