People have been saying it for a while now, but how long would you give it until the United States has some manner of violent insurrection, civil war, or massive restructuring of its systems? Or what will eventually be the end of the US?
People have been saying it for a while now, but how long would you give it until the United States has some manner of violent insurrection, civil war, or massive restructuring of its systems? Or what will eventually be the end of the US?
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Meh, systems are already being destroyed, and mr clown just took office like 3 months ago. I’d give it a year.
It’s hard tp say because the american people are very complacent. I’m convinced trump could run for a third term illegally and not only would the government do nothing but the people would continue about their lives – becoming akin to Belarus.
One thing is for sure. The country is fucked six ways from sunday and it is basically on life support (bribery, corruption, dirty money, rich people). I am skeptical whether or not it will be here at the turn of the 21st century.
i really love the comedic value of people asking when will americans “rebel”, its actually hliarious to me
Maybe by the end of the summer? A guest on the Weekly Show podcast said that Presidential approval ratings tend to nosedive after six months in office once the honeymoon phase is over.
If tariffs are in place, shit will be more expensive than ever. Firing all of these federal employees means that suddenly a decent number of people are unemployed, have nothing to do, and are angry.
My question is, does the Republican Party turn on itself if shit gets too fucked up, remove Trump from office in favor of JD Vance, and suddenly we don’t have to talk about a third term because Vance would have something like two and a half terms to really fuck things up for us? Do Americans openly rebel? Seems unlikely, as long as enough people have it good enough we don’t seem to do shit.
It certainly does seem like all but the last few masks are off and we see that our government no longer works for us. Probably been that way for a while, but this is pretty bad!
Your people are being abducted in broad daylight and disappeared to foreign death camps, while bystanders watch on their phone and pretend to see nothing.
Until you treat these abductions as what they are – delayed murders – and fight like hell to save your people, they will continue.
This is literally the threat of the “first they came for the…” poem. You are in your end of days and so far it looks like you are content to die quietly.
So “what will it take?” Revolution. The first American revolution was because of tariffs. It took the actions of the Boston Tea Party to kick off the series of events that culminated in the Declaration of Independence, many lines in which still ring true today.
So what will it really take? Courage, and lives lost. America lost its true spirit of patriotism. Not “America is best”, that is not patriotism – patriotism means giving a damn about your fellow countrymen no matter their race or creed, it means caring about the future of your nation and its place in the world, not such that you can profit from it individually, but so that all people can have a better life and shared fortune.
Your president is committed to fascism and nationalism. He desires that no amount of lives spent in order to fatten his own purse and carry out his gross petty vengeance is too great. My view is that I should sooner expend my life for freedom and a dream than to lay it down for a traitors wealth.
I don’t believe the American spirit is broken. The nation is more than lines on a map, and your flag is more than just a piece of cloth. But your people are hungry and desperate and leaderless. These are the chemical powders and all they need is the right spark.
That spark is a singular event where the rest of the nation sees one person or a group stand up in defiance of the unjust tyranny being reigned upon you. Just one spark. Just one small act of rebellion, of truth and reason over lies and madness.
Who will it be, where will it happen, I cannot say. But the longer time goes on with no resistance, hope turns to despair, despair turns to acceptance.
So fight like hell, not for your own sake, but for your neighbours and your country that you must still believe in.
The administration will not relinquish power willingly.
With the speed they are moving things will come to a head soon. I am willing to bet within 60 days we will reach a true crisis point.
Whether it is civil war or not is unclear but there will be violence.
Nothing that’s just the Internet talking
I truly believe at some point during this admin, there will be a mass casualty event from basically a red hat vs blue hat battle.
Whether it’s a couple hundred or a couple thousand people remains to be seen, but they’ll all end up faced off and it’ll go bad.
Rhetoric will be “2nd Civil War” and there will be memes and more arguments. No answers will really come from it and the muck will get deeper. I think it’s as mundane and sad as that. It won’t really “end” it’ll just slop over the side and keep spinning crookedly, like a shitty clay project on a wheel.
Not in my lifetime so I’m not concerned at all.
So for the non-americans.
Revolution is America is hard…America is big…like really big. The places our people live are already like mostly normal (ny, ca)
So a march in Chicago does fuckall to change something in san Antonio. And to get a meaningful amount of people into DC is hard. The distances are just a lot.
Some of the comments are not wrong though. Most of what’s going on has been going on … It’s just that thin veneer of ‘normal’ has eroded away. Like it’s not normal to have some chucklfuck shopping for his 4th mecha yaht when a single mother of 4 working 3 jobs cannot get insulin for her baby. Like?!?
that said…I think the best we can hope for is a heart attack.
America isnt going to collapse everyone says that because america is the elephant in the room
I think people are starting to learn that constitution may not be worth the paper it’s printed on….no due process…Supreme Court rulings no longer matter..and court orders can be played around…the same tactics the politicians and rich folk have been doing for decades …only problem is Trump is very obvious about his corruption and the republican party and Maga cults lap it up and aspire to that level of corrupt…I get it deport illegals but with due process…so when he starts sending American citizens to El Salvador for cruel and unusual punishment maybe then America will demand change
The drama in these responses is ridiculous. There will be no violent insurrection, civil war, or massive restructuring.
Probably not ever. Enough of the US institutions and people support or don’t care or are afraid that there won’t be a revolution. And it won’t be the end of the US. Just like other countries with fascist leaders still exist with resistance groups but mostly not ever enough to build a revolution. What’s happening in the US has happened before.
And there is not much cross-state consensus to build a unified revolution either.
Debt will cause the US to collapse. As soon as they can no longer pay all those tin soldiers they’re fucked.
Not anytime soon to be honest. It hasn’t happened in any other western countries that I can think of in recent times besides Germany. Within 200 years, though, I don’t doubt something will happen but it will not be in this century.
America will continue limping along for a few decades, continuing to fall to the far right or barely holding steady, until it is completely and unambiguously defeated in some foreign policy blunder. Then it will begin to fall apart as its world order is supplanted, and the gravy train enabled by its hegemonic status ends.
Eventually it will fracture into multiple countries, either via unilateral secession or by granting more and more autonomy to regional areas in the same vein as the Chinese warlords during the Qing Empire, and America will die. It will probably still exist in some capacity, and in name, but its time in the sun will be over. A quiet lingering death of a thousand cuts.
You had it 5 years ago with the George Floyd protests & defund the police.
When the boomers die off in the next decade there will be a massive economic & political restructuring as millenials become the dominant demographic in the US.
Consider that 50 years ago the US army were shooting protesters on college campuses, the US president had to resign because he’d ordered a break in the office of his opposition. 50 years before that you were in the middle of the Great Depression, 50 years before that you were in the middle of an actual civil war.
If you think this is the worst time in American history you have a very short sighted veiw of history.
Let me take a stab at this. So first off, the fascist dictatorship is just a smoke screen. It’s still solidly a plain oligarchy. Civil war is probably too chaotic to be profitable. so I honestly don’t see that on the menu in any near future. Just follow where the money leads. The rich won’t let it happen. They will suck everything dry but they will be too chicken to salt the earth.
A serious insurrection will require people to be literally dying and no good way to live normally. Society run to the ground. I’d reference that to something like the French revolution. There’re still too much to go around within the US. So it won’t be soon. I imagine when they run out of resource and when unemployment hits high 70’s then maybe. (number is drawn from what I vaguely remember Greece during their defaulting debt days having 50%unemployment rate.) If that would ever happen, it will be decades later.
I think the end result is already right in front of us. The ending of this story is that America will become another Russia. Closed off, oppressed but functional. To get there you will first witness “brain drain”. People who are educated and are able to move somewhere else will do so. Then the blue/red mix will shift red. Making it more inhospitable for the educated; downward spiral. Eventually, the magats will indefinitely hold control. Trump is just a figurehead. They don’t really need him to even run a third term. In fact magats already print shirts that list his entire bloodline to come to rule lol. They literally want a dynasty.
And then the longer the rich holds control, the more people would get used to live under poverty. They will be more thoroughly brainwashed. Less educated. Easier to control. Ya, so Russia.
It’s not going to happen. The people pushing this view are either dumb as fuck or deliberately fear mongering. Seriously how fragile do you think the American system is, that one single president can cause the entire country to collapse? Do you really think, that U.S. became the world’s dominant superpower for nothing?
Read the news, Trump’s actions have been challenged in court all over this past month. If his tariff/economic plans are bad it will soon reflect on people’s quality of life. Republicans will lose the house in midterm election. Then he won’t be able to do much. Trust the system and the people, and of course do your part if you are American.
Nothing will happen. As an American I can tell you that most Americans I’m around don’t actually get up to do anything if it doesn’t directly and immediately affect them. I live in a blue state that has only ever voted red 4 times, most of the folks here are democrats and not a single one cares or willing to do what it takes to change anything. Like most presidents we just wait and hope for the best and keep our heads down.
Until trumps America directly and immediately affects them personally nothing will change, which trump’s administration knows so they’re very cleverly destroying or changing systems that’ll stab them in the face later on so it couldn’t be immediately tied to his administration.
The end of the us starts with a nuclear war, your country will end when mine does.
Just nuke us, man. I’m so fucking tired.
The difference between the united states and any other country on this earth is that besides the Native Americans, everyone else is from somewhere else. and the people that dont feel like theyre from somewhere else are either white and black point blank period. and race doesn’t equate to pride of ethnicity, community and people. for example like the Chinese, Argentinians, Mexicans, Nigerians. Any country you can think of is fundamentally built on its own identity as a people and ethnic group. The entire point of the United States is that its a melting pot, its not suppose to be for one people, its not supposed to be for one race or one ethnic group. its a land of immigrants, everyone except the natives are all immigrant or immigrant descendants. meaning that people will NOT going to fight so passionately for a country that they are not fundamentally from. The French are known to revolt and change entire governments because they are French, and the French people are passionate. they are not immigrants, they are simply just French and from there especially the further back you go in time. Hispanic Americans arent gonna fight for the united states its not their country, Asian Americans, etc. African Americans and White Americans are too busy being racist against each other and too busy fighting with each other to have that strong of a unison to fight against a country that is arguably also not theirs. theres too many differences, too many religions and races, too many of everything to have a group of people from country unite and fight for a true change in our government, because were simply not from here. Were just lucky to be here (kinda).
How would a civil war look like even? America doesn’t have the setting for a civil war, it’s not states vs states anymore. Different groups live among each other, there’s no civil war. At most you’d get some violent protests, maybe some extremists trying to assassinate people.
I’m going with Friday, April 13th, 2029. I’m convinced Apophis will change trajectory and hit earth causing a worldwide catastrophic disaster. Until then…chillin.
So we vote them out. But what if Elon’s goon squad hacks into the computers and deletes Dem votes? Or just screws with the data? We will never have our voting power again.
There’s gonna happen something after the midterms if the Election Fraud goes beyond what happened in 24.
Sunday, 4/20. Hear me out.
On inauguration day he signed an EO that set a clock ticking for 90days. If certain conditions are not met, or others are then the EO allows for some sort of martial law to be put in place. That runs out on Easter Sunday (coincidentally Hitlers birthday).
I believe there are marches planned for the 19th. The perfect opportunity to send in agents provocature, and turn it into a Riot. And that’s the perfect excuse for him to implement martial law.
There would have to be some kind of major collapse or the grid going down or something.
Cheap shitty calories are the only thing keeping America from falling apart right now. If food gets so unaffordable that the middle-class (what remains of it) can’t afford to eat, then shit will get real, real fast.
My biggest fear is something like the Dust Bowl in the 30s – climate-change-induced agricultural system collapse – and I think we’re headed full speed into it.
The problem with the whole “citizens rising up” scenario is part complacency and part logistical.
As much as we’re the United States, we’re pretty well divided on this. Red states are happy with Trump. Blue states are not (save for pockets of both in each state).
In the blue states, there are generally Democrat state officials who ward off a lot of bullshit. The opposite is true for the red states, but they eat up what Trump does so they’re happy.
Most people’s day to day lives are uninterrupted as a whole. Obviously not everyone, but the majority of people aren’t feeling a huge impact (yet). So, with that in mind, not a lot of people are going to do more than protest.
The logistics of it all creates a huge barrier. Where is this violent insurrection supposed to happen? DC? Good luck amassing the large number of people needed for that to get to one place at the same time without the office and military knowing what’s coming.
The other option, WHICH I’M NOT ADVOCATING FOR, is an individual or very small group somehow getting to Trump. But that’s not a solution to the direction the country is going in. He’d be a martyr and the right would ramp up even more.
The only true solution would be for the government to stop him. Until the Supreme Court, House, and Senate decide they can’t let this go on it’s pretty much a train with no breaks.
The election was America’s chance. Before the election was America’s chance. Him being allowed to run again and winning the election (whether you think it was legit or he cheated is irrelevant) put us on this crash course.
He’s already destroyed international relations. He’s tanking the economy. He’s siding with our enemies. He’s a cult of personality so he’s useful, but don’t assume that when he’s gone the Republicans will go back to “normal”. Republicans are gone. It’s the MAGA party now. The next guy will continue on this path as well.
I don’t have much faith in any future election.
When the dullards and non thinkers can no longer drink Starbucks and go to football games
Once enough of us have been fiscally railroaded by tariffs, job losses, rampant inflation. It’s always been about what impacts us personally, as we’ve been lulled into a malaise due to our creature comforts.