What is the breaking point for everyone to pour into the streets for America? Is it the news that ABergo Garcia is dead? An actually citizen was detained today and apparently isn’t going to be released, what’s it gonna take?
What is the breaking point for everyone to pour into the streets for America? Is it the news that ABergo Garcia is dead? An actually citizen was detained today and apparently isn’t going to be released, what’s it gonna take?
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yea, if he isn’t dead yet, he probably will be soon. he tried to get asylum in the U.S. from MS13? then got sent back to a prison full of them? laterz.
Hey, maybe post the link to what you’re talking about.
Into the streets of the countries of the American continents?
Juan Carlos Lopez-Gomez:
https://floridaphoenix.com/2025/04/17/u-s-born-man-held-for-ice-under-floridas-new-anti-immigration-law/
there are nationwide protests planned for Saturday
You want people to enter the streets on behalf of an El Salvadoran citizen who illegally entered the United States only to have his wife twice seek an order of protection against him over domestic violence?
No
We won’t know the line until we reach it. Every revolution starts because of one little thing. The American revolution had a handful of minor protests, then some Redcoats shot at some protesters (and it is under dispute as to whether they were justified in doing so).
It’s always a single straw that breaks the camels back and puts large parts of a population against something all at once.
Unfortunately, Knowing how the USA media cycle works, give it 2 weeks tops and this will all be forgotten about. Remember how Boeing murdered a guy and everyone just moved on the next day?
Something tells me the country is boiling and the lid just hasn’t come off yet. I don’t know what the lynch pin will be but the longer this goes on, the more pent up energy the masses will gather. We are 9 missed meals from anarchy and the economy was already skating directly over an abyss.
My guess is over 98% will not care if Garcia dies
A gangbanger gets deported and you want him back here? Like seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
I understand where you are coming from and i hear you, but PLEASE hear me on this, DO NOT break out into the streets. The trump administration knows what they’re doing here and they want any excuse they can get to declare martial law. The best way for this to go down is for the courts to issue legally binding orders. Otherwise he’s got a big fucking military that he’d love nothing more than to deploy on US soil as a response to “terrorism” ala luigi. Our advantages here are being smart and moral, if we run into the streets and break shit because of trump then we are neither.
Edit- i may have jumped the gun. If you mean protests, there are those and i encourage you to join them- but it feels like we’ve moved past a point where gathering angrily with signs is a satisfying action.
When the stocks market falls 50% and half the population loses their job. Anything short of that isn’t going to wake people up.
It’s apathy. People don’t care until it actually effects them personally.
Check out the holocaust poem ‘then they came for me’
Cancelling college football is about the only thing that will get white southerners out of their seats. I wish I was kidding.
If only he wasn’t ms13 and an actual citizen
5 million Americans showed up to protest across the US. The Fighting the Oligarchy tour of Bernie and AOC pulled 30,000 attendees from a deeply red town of 80,000. A lot of people are seeing what happens on April 20th because that’s the date he said he would call up the insurrection act which would allow him to use the military against his own people. Marshal law would allow him to bypass the judicial system and right now, the judicial system is the ONLY thing keeping us alive and him from invading Canada.
honestly?
a lack of cheap entertainment, food shortages, and internet connectivity problems
It’s a great question…
The breaking point was January 7 2021 when those who incited an insurrection were allowed to remain free instead of being sent to GITMO.
Seems like people who voted for the convicted felon don’t understand what an effing idiotic, moronic, corrupt, dangerous to democracy, dictator wannabe he is. Trash and create doubt about the media because they check him, trash and pack the DOJ with sycophants because they check him, trash the Supreme Court by packing it with sycophants. I mean this is going on right in the open. Fascism playbook by the numbers. He’s going to author a book called “Fascism for dummies”
If you wanna start a revolution just grab your nuts and say it
Will protests even do anything? Those in power can simply just ignore them
Or arrest them .. seems they have no problem arresting whoever whenever anyway
Tiktok being banned sure made for a lot of attention-could that be it?
If Trump ordered the killing of 10,000 immigrants and 1 blonde chic, most people would ask why the blonde chic
US politicians are remarkably deaf to protest (see the reaction to the Iraq war protests and 2008 protests if you doubt it). Non violent protest is almost wholly ignored, and while the media will play up any violence, they will not accurately report grievances preferring to add their own commentary on top.
Sorry to say: Garcia will probably not be a catalyst. If the “alleged wife beater” accusation and “terrorist” label sticks even a little bit, protesters will have to debunk the lies before they’ll gain sympathy from the ambivalent public.
Deporting “homegrown terrorists” i.e. citizens will probably get some pushback… but not before the project is in full swing and we get some investigative journalists doing their jobs by interviewing the wronged.
Honestly, the economy collapsing has the greatest potential to cause unrest. Fortunately, this administration is hell-bent on making it happen, so I doubt we’ll have to wait long.
The MAGA hats are completely indoctrined by Trump’s dogma. If Trump says he is an illegal, they’ll believe it. If he says he is a member of MS-13, they’ll believe it.
These ppl are so deep into Trumpism they’ll justify Trump raping a 12 year old girl on stage. MAGA youtubers will post videos about “The Truth about the 12 year old girl” and claim she and her family have criminal records and Trump is playing 4D chess, Trust the plan..
Something has happened to make boomers like this. I’ll confidently say that Trump isn’t clever enough to convince people to idolise him by his own efforts. Nope, there must be something else at play here, I suspect it’s the Russians filling social media with bots supporting Trump.
The MAGA hats feel justified and supported when they see pro-trump posts overwhelming their social feeds. And it helps when the MAGA cult uses phrases like “woke” that undermines anything progressive and stops Trump supporters train of thought.
Pour into the streets and do what? I think the problem is there’s no obvious strategy here – I live in a neighborhood of people much like myself who despise this administration. There’s no one here to protest to.
American citizens have lazily relied on Congress and the courts to keep the executive branch in check. That was literally their job. Now it’s our job. Sorry we’re new here.
I think the breaking point will be folks wallets. Everyone was told things would cost less, and I’m hearing that light bulb going off in their heads that things cost even more than they were paying just a few months ago.
I wish I knew. But remember that we don’t need as many people as we think. The research of Erica Chenoweth shows that you only need 3.5% of a population to create successful nonviolent change.
Cancelling the 2026 vote, severely interfering with people’s ability to even show up in person, or clearly stuffing the ballots.
Conservative columnist David Brooks called for mass protest and strikes today https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/17/opinion/trump-harvard-law-firms.html
If he is a citizen… why was he crossing the border illegally? He got taken in because he was evading and eluding immigration officials and TOLD the state trooper that arrested him that he was in the country illegally. Here goes the left wildly misrepresenting the facts again.
He is not a citizen.
There’s a nationwide protest march this Saturday.
I’m ready now!
I’d say 2020 was the closest we’d get
You’ll never convince the far right as they are loving this. Every minute of it. I think the time will come shortly when the center-right will start changing their mind about him. I think once he starts exiling KNOWN legal citizens and it’s proven they did nothing wrong, the tide will begin to shift. Once those people are on board we should start seeing some movement. Right now there’s too many people yelling down much resistance. so to speak.
Everyone is just too damn busy to pour out into the streets. No one is able to go without to last past what a general boycott will take. And the people in power will stay in power just like they have been for the last 50 years. I figure I’ll die in the climate wars so I got that going for me.
Garcia is a human trafficking, wife beater, and terrorists gang member. Not a reason to be rioting in the streets.
Most MAGA people just won’t turn on him it doesn’t matter. He can execute people and they won’t care
2020 largely only kicked off because of the absurdly high unemployment rate and the economic crash over Covid. IDK when it will really kick off again like that here, I fear not before Cheetoh man fires Jerome Powell to put the final stake in the economy’s coffin.
When the comfy couch is set a fire and the big screen TV is taken away…
Then there will be riots in the streets
Very few care about an immigrant that was deported. Even less care about some guy who can’t speak English and been here 20 years.
why would you bring back to US a wife beater who was caught together with gang members?
People will need almost all of their conveniences taken away. Only thing distracting from taking action. No judgement but unfortunately this is how it will play out.
You’re talking to the people who have no power to correct the problem. Riot? Sure. That’ll do…something. But it’s not law. It’s not accountability. We have federal AND state AND local judicial systems that can fight this. We have an entire legislative branch that can hang impeachment over both presidents and judges for bad behavior. There are systems in place that should be doing their job, that should own this process. THAT needs to happen.
The problem is we really need the Republican party to tear itself apart, and until that happens, there’s no fixing anything. You have an entire political party unified in being as criminal, complacent, and conforming as possible to NOT act appropriately and do their job. Some in the party have to realize they can’t just stand by and watch the institution crumble. Or they do…and it’s on them, the inactive, the feeble, the cowards.
Now we’re at a point where there are quite literally hundreds of state level lawsuits actively in process to hold the federal level accountable. It’s just not a fast process. But this is the non-corrupt, and the volume of lawsuits will hit target, over and over and over again. It’s just not fast.
People are too afraid. They are scared they will be next if they speak out. The US, once a nation of brave patriots willing to fight and die for even the idea of freedom, is nothing but a nation of cowards now. The few that do, are the only true americans. All the rest are just cowards.
copium does make folks stupid it seems.
Three missed meals is what will save America
Lol
Until the average person has been deeply affected by Trump, there will be no action.
Essentially, when the middle and upper middle class get F-ed so hard that literally every day items straight up aren’t affordable and daily life is a genuine struggle (we aren’t there yet), things will change.
When all hope is lost. Currently most of us are wage slaves and missing a day of work would already spell doom. Plus add the fact that American’s are super lazy by default. Newer batch of humans prefer to stare at their phones and so long as they have their music and podcasts, they won’t be actively participating.
As JFK said “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”
Àlliance for progress, March, 1962.
I support the protestors, but it’s too risky. Gotta protect my kids and their future.
Study much of Mao? Killed the most people in all of history, and people today support him because “the ends justified the means”.
I think this Rump regime has shown that they are following the Germany, China, Russia WWII playbook.
As principled and supportive as I might be… Nope, not willing to sacrifice my family.
That does not make me wrong, that does not make me bad, that makes me human. And I share to say, this is what we’re all up against… Survival.
I think way more ppl will have to be desperate. Way more ppl without jobs, hungry and struggling with nothing to lose.
We should already be at the point of ppl in the streets with them sending ppl to concentration camps with no trial but we aren’t.
This is how authoritarianism works. Lots of ppl are scared to speak out or do anything because they don’t wanna be the next one sent away to die.
Idgaf about some anchor baby being detained. What about Austin Metcalf being stabbed to death at school and every black person in the world rallying around the black killer to give the middle finger to the white victims family?
Every group just cares about whatever effects their own people. Illegals care about migration, blacks care about criminals, only idiots white people are foolish enough to care about everyone else’s issues.