I travel quite frequently for work and this gives me a migraine. I hate it. I’m waiting for them to announce the new “fast pass” equivalent to precheck
if they are going to make us participate in security theater they should at least amp up the drama. i want sci fi noises, lasers crossing my body, a roughly 1/10 chance of seeing actors vaporized into a puff of smoke for violating the rules. opt-in characters you can be if you want (im a spy crossing into west berlin, my wife is a career criminal on her way to steal the ai core from arasaka hq)
I don’t think people would sit idly by as terrorists strut down the aisles anymore. They’d be subdued or killed right away by passengers. Roll em back.
in the age of school shootings, I don’t think it makes sense to pare back security. I don’t want people bringing guns and bombs onto airplanes. I do think we need to force the TSA, FBI, DHS, etc. to be more transparent and fair in their policies. There really shouldn’t be “lists” that result in American citizens being stripped of their rights or coerced completely in secret.
I’ve never really had a problem with airport security. As long as you understand how you should pack your bag and what you can and can’t bring it’s usually a pretty quick process
We should definitely keep the “you must have a ticket for a flight today to get into the main terminal area” part, because airports used to be full of thieves and scammers back when anyone could walk in.
I’d rather keep post-9/11security measures in place. I remember 9/11 and it was horrific and traumatic. If someone is annoyed about security, I don’t care. Get over it.
The TSA was more a federal jobs creation program than any kind of real security measure. I didn’t like the culture of fear that prevailed back in 2002 but I do like it when working people have money. So I guess you could say I’m conflicted?
Very much in favor of it. The main reason to take extraordinary precautions on a plane post-911 is to prevent the plane from being taken over and turned into a weapon. Folks not interested in using a plane as a weapon can cause enormous death or damage with bombs and guns without needing to involve a plane at all, particularly if they are willing to die in the act. So the precautions that really matter for planes in particular are those necessary to prevent the plane from being taken over and crashed into something, which would seem to chiefly concern beefing up the cockpit door and imposing security protocols on when and how it’s opened–though I’ll listen attentively to someone with expertise on this issue if they want to chime in.
I recently got one and it took me multiple visits to the DMV to actually get one. My birth certificate was ‘shortform’ (as that’s what the state issued) and listed my middle initial not my middle name. (Think John H. Smith instead of John Henry Smith). My social security card lists my full middle name. The DMV said I was a fraud. I ended up going to the CITY I was born in (not the state) and got a certified copy of my birth certificate with my full middle name.
Dafuq does my middle name have to do with boarding a plane? Does how the state printed my birth certificate make me a terrorist?
Make Pre Check free and the standard (double the security lines and make them all Pre-check) except for the few that aren’t Pre Check. Make the non-precheck lines the exception.
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s feasible now. Terrorist groups have only ramped up since then and there are a significant number of crazies around now too. It’s a necessary evil at this point. They do at least have precheck programs that make it a lot more tolerable.
I think whatever the standard you can buy is, is what everyone should be subjected to. If I can go through Clear or TSA pre-check just because I gave someone $100, why shouldn’t everyone be able to fill out a form, schedule an interview, get approval, then fly without taking off their shoes or taking their computers out of their bags.
If it is safe to sell, it should be safe for free.
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Sir they have hit a 3rd tower
I travel quite frequently for work and this gives me a migraine. I hate it. I’m waiting for them to announce the new “fast pass” equivalent to precheck
With the Trump Slump and the kakistocracy it’s a really bad idea. We’re easy meat right now.
Negatively
The new scanners and upcoming liquid changes should help.
if they are going to make us participate in security theater they should at least amp up the drama. i want sci fi noises, lasers crossing my body, a roughly 1/10 chance of seeing actors vaporized into a puff of smoke for violating the rules. opt-in characters you can be if you want (im a spy crossing into west berlin, my wife is a career criminal on her way to steal the ai core from arasaka hq)
I don’t think people would sit idly by as terrorists strut down the aisles anymore. They’d be subdued or killed right away by passengers. Roll em back.
I’m cool with it. It’s just theater, anyway.
in the age of school shootings, I don’t think it makes sense to pare back security. I don’t want people bringing guns and bombs onto airplanes. I do think we need to force the TSA, FBI, DHS, etc. to be more transparent and fair in their policies. There really shouldn’t be “lists” that result in American citizens being stripped of their rights or coerced completely in secret.
I’ve never really had a problem with airport security. As long as you understand how you should pack your bag and what you can and can’t bring it’s usually a pretty quick process
No way!
Security lines are SO much shorter now.
Defund the TSA
The requirements were written in the blood of 9/11, we don’t need to have more blood by rolling them back.
We have better tech since 9-11. Roll them back.
Go for it. It’s all fake anyway.
It’s nothing but security theater.
It’s not making flying safer, it’s more control over travelers
We should definitely keep the “you must have a ticket for a flight today to get into the main terminal area” part, because airports used to be full of thieves and scammers back when anyone could walk in.
Now’s probably not the best time for that.
Is this something thats happening, or is it a hypothetical scenario?
I’d rather keep post-9/11security measures in place. I remember 9/11 and it was horrific and traumatic. If someone is annoyed about security, I don’t care. Get over it.
The TSA was more a federal jobs creation program than any kind of real security measure. I didn’t like the culture of fear that prevailed back in 2002 but I do like it when working people have money. So I guess you could say I’m conflicted?
Very much in favor of it. The main reason to take extraordinary precautions on a plane post-911 is to prevent the plane from being taken over and turned into a weapon. Folks not interested in using a plane as a weapon can cause enormous death or damage with bombs and guns without needing to involve a plane at all, particularly if they are willing to die in the act. So the precautions that really matter for planes in particular are those necessary to prevent the plane from being taken over and crashed into something, which would seem to chiefly concern beefing up the cockpit door and imposing security protocols on when and how it’s opened–though I’ll listen attentively to someone with expertise on this issue if they want to chime in.
Who cares? More likely you’ll get sent to a El Savadorian concentration camp by ICE.
Can we wait till we have a real president again? I mean if we get a real one again.
I wouldn’t be as inclined to fly.
I wasn’t in favor of implementing them in the first place.
You should get a reward for passing through security and not setting off the scanner or getting your bag pulled for excess liquids.
Maybe get a stamp on a card and on your sixth stamp you get a free fast pass. On 12 stamps, you get one lounge access
I’d be much more afraid of flying knowing my plane getting hijacked is now more of a possibility
What I don’t understand is the Real ID laws.
I recently got one and it took me multiple visits to the DMV to actually get one. My birth certificate was ‘shortform’ (as that’s what the state issued) and listed my middle initial not my middle name. (Think John H. Smith instead of John Henry Smith). My social security card lists my full middle name. The DMV said I was a fraud. I ended up going to the CITY I was born in (not the state) and got a certified copy of my birth certificate with my full middle name.
Dafuq does my middle name have to do with boarding a plane? Does how the state printed my birth certificate make me a terrorist?
Why? Are there less terrorists?
Make Pre Check free and the standard (double the security lines and make them all Pre-check) except for the few that aren’t Pre Check. Make the non-precheck lines the exception.
maybe hire a doge crew of teens with tabs to audit it, said to save a billion dollars and end it only saving 1.75 then a return to mid air explosions
Saving money to fund giant tax loopholes for billionaires. Bottom line.
Under this administration? What could possibly go wrong?!
Unfortunately I don’t think it’s feasible now. Terrorist groups have only ramped up since then and there are a significant number of crazies around now too. It’s a necessary evil at this point. They do at least have precheck programs that make it a lot more tolerable.
I just want them to stop making everyone take off their shoes.
Could someone pull off a hijacking?
The last plane in 9/11 the passangers killed the highjackers. I fully believe this will happen again.
The armored doors of the cockpit are really all that is needed.
Could planes be blown up. Sure! But not used as weapons to crash into targets.
I think whatever the standard you can buy is, is what everyone should be subjected to. If I can go through Clear or TSA pre-check just because I gave someone $100, why shouldn’t everyone be able to fill out a form, schedule an interview, get approval, then fly without taking off their shoes or taking their computers out of their bags.
If it is safe to sell, it should be safe for free.
“It’s working….we should change it”