I used to be a fan of Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens but not anymore.

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I used to be a fan of both Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens. I genuinely believed they were fair, tough commentators who called things as they saw them, regardless of race or politics. But over time, I’ve noticed some very selective outrage and glaring silences that make me think they’re not as principled as they claim to be. Honestly, I’m starting to believe they’re controlled opposition — just playing a role to appease a certain crowd while pretending to be unbiased.

Let’s start with Ben Shapiro. I used to think he was sharp and objective. But now I see a pattern: when a white person commits a crime — silence. Remember when that white police officer shot a Black woman in her own house? Ben didn’t say a word. Or when a white mass shooter killed children at a primary school? Again, nothing. But when a Black person kills a white person, suddenly it’s front and center on his platform. He’ll make several tweets, videos, and commentaries. I’m not saying he shouldn’t talk about those cases — but why the selective concern? Why the inconsistency?

And just to be clear — I don’t support violence or murder regardless of the race of the victim or the perpetrator. I think Anthony K. should be jailed.

Then there’s Candace Owens. At least she doesn’t stay silent — but her reaction is usually to mock or blame the Black community. She constantly says Black people overreact, whine too much, or play the victim. She claims she’s a Christian, yet picks and chooses what to call out. For example, she criticized Kim Kardashian’s clothing for being “anti-family” or “too sexual,” but said nothing when Kanye West’s wife showed up basically naked at the Grammys. Why is that? Is it because it was Kanye, her friend?

And speaking of Kanye — he literally calls himself “Yeezus,” a blatant play on “Jesus.” And that thorn crown cover he did. That’s textbook blasphemy, especially for someone who claims to be Christian. But Owens won’t touch that. She defends him instead. And then there’s Andrew Tate — a man who has said deeply troubling things, no matter how you try to twist or explain them. But Owens continues to defend him too.

What really raised my eyebrows was her attempt to cast doubt on Harvey Weinstein’s guilt. She tried to argue that he was innocent or that the accusations were exaggerated. Honestly, it made me wonder: did Weinstein pay her off?

Let’s not forget Ben Shapiro again — he once talked about a so-called “white genocide” in South Africa, which is simply not true. White South Africans are statistically the most affluent group in the country. Yes, there are tragic deaths of white farmers, but there are also deaths of Black South Africans — including deaths caused by white people. Where is his commentary on that?

Both Shapiro and Owens love to accuse Black people of being too emotional or “whiney,” but when something happens to a group they support — they’ll escalate it, cry foul, and go on for weeks about how unfair everything is. It’s hard to ignore the hypocrisy at this point.

I’m not saying they need to pander to one group or pretend there are no issues in the Black community. But if you’re going to claim to be fair and objective, then be consistent. Don’t cherry-pick stories that fit your narrative while ignoring or minimizing everything else.

Another thing that bothers me is how both Ben Shapiro and Candace Owens like to romanticize the idea of women staying at home, often framing working women as somehow less holy. I remember Candace praising a young woman for choosing to be a stay-at-home mom — which is fine, there’s nothing wrong with that choice. I’m a stay-at-home mom myself, and I love my role. But let’s not pretend being a stay-at-home mom automatically makes someone more holy or moral than a woman who works.

What’s baffling is the hypocrisy — Ben’s wife is a doctor. She literally works in a demanding career. Candace herself is a working woman: writing books, running a podcast, speaking at events… that’s all work. Yet they push this narrative that a woman’s place is in the home.

And realistically — in this economy? Most families can’t afford to live on one income. So promoting this “one working partner = ideal family” setup feels out of touch with the reality most people face.

I used to admire them, but not anymore.

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  2. CrystalSplicer Avatar

    it’s the zionism that turns me away from most conservative public figures despite being a rightie myself.

  3. _dooozy_ Avatar

    To be honest putting aside the politics I never understood the appeal in either. Both are annoying as hell. Ben Shapiro’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.

  4. TransportationOk657 Avatar

    Glad you finally see them for what they are. I’ve always found these two to be insufferable partisans full of misinformation.

  5. gamergirlpeeofficial Avatar

    I’ve gone through Ben Shapiro’s recent Youtube videos. Here’s my summary of his latest work:

    • “I don’t like this popular actress”
    • “I don’t like this popular song”
    • “I don’t like this popular movie”
    • “I don’t like DEMOCRATS!”
    • “I don’t like this popular book”
    • “I don’t like this popular celebrity”
    • “I don’t like JOE BIDEN!”
    • “I don’t like this popular singer”
    • “I don’t like this popular show”
    • “I don’t like this popular video”
    • “I don’t like like THE LEFT!”

    His entire schtick is to shit on things other people like to drive up engagement. Then punctuate it with a diatribe about liberals.

    Can you believe Ben Shapiro has a net worth of $50,000,000 just screeching about liberals all day?

    Why did I waste my life going to engineering school? I should have become a right-wing grifter instead.

  6. ManOWar_Esq Avatar

    I’ve never liked the 2. Ben is a disingenuous shark-eyed weasel, that loves to debate unprepared college kids to make himself took powerful to his base. And Candace just exists to say the things racist don’t have the guts to say out loud.

    The most powerful thing those two have taught me is that just because you don’t raise your voice in an argument doesn’t make you more intelligent, or right

  7. DiscoGru Avatar

    To follow-up on your first point about selective concern: Charlie Kirk was recently asked why he would angrily tweet about Jasmine Crockett calling Gov. Abbott “hot wheels” but never said a peep about Donald Trump mocking a disabled reporter. His response? To lie and say Trump never did that lmao. They turn a blind eye to dear leader or anything that doesn’t agree with the outrage they’re trying to manufacture, hoping (knowing) their listeners won’t look up pretty easily verifiable things.

  8. daeganthedragon Avatar

    I’m sorry, but if you listened to them for more than 30 seconds and thought either of them were reasonable…I just cannot trust your judgment. Unless you saw a couple TikToks out of context of their usual shows, that would make sense, but if you actually continuously watched them, then you cannot be trusted to form logical opinions. They’re clearly right wing grifters.

  9. lylesmif Avatar

    So? Too late to make a difference now.

  10. Kip_Schtum Avatar

    Welcome to the party, pal. You’re woke now and you’re going to notice the hypocrisy and double standards everywhere.

  11. Dirtblack69 Avatar

    I used to be a democrat. Not anymore.

  12. procrastinationprogr Avatar

    Shapiro’s tactic when debating someone is just gish galloping. Say enough things fast enough so the other party doesn’t have enough time to respond also add interruptions to that. He doesn’t really say anything of substance. He also tends to debate people who are bad at debating.

  13. Justalilbugboi Avatar

    I’m glad to see that even when presented with what is highly edited propaganda, people can still connect dots and see through the bullshit.

    You give me some faith 

  14. RiposteCat Avatar

    Ben Shapiro has always been an asshole pretending that it’s a good thing. You can seek and preach good things/the truth without being an asshole, but he chose to be. I’ve never respected him bc he made that choice right from the start

  15. pwhitt4654 Avatar

    Hard to believe it took this long to figure this out

  16. ChampionshipStock870 Avatar

    Candace Owens entire rise to fame and platform from day one was trolling liberals. That’s all she has ever cared about since she started becoming a famous political voice. The more the left liked something the more she rails against it. I’ve literally never seen her once agree with anything any person on the left has ever said, not once.

    Ben Shapiro is smart I believe. He used to be this weird ring wing voice who also used logic and common sense sometimes, then he started getting popular and he started practicing the selective outrage you’re calling out here.

    Both of them are hacks

  17. ErwinHeisenberg Avatar

    Ben Shapiro is a waste of a good twink. I said what I said

  18. fluffyclouds89 Avatar

    I have a hard time with someone that has zero capacity for empathy. Candace Owen’s used to rally against women that called for longer maternity leave, or she was say that women were exaggerating how bad our maternity system as a whole was. Until she went through it herself. And then all of a sudden, it was a problem. She could finally see that new mothers needed a longer recovery time and that they weren’t just bullshitting their experience. Why did she specifically have to experience it in order to understand everyone else? How was she so incapable of seeing a different perspective?

    I just don’t understand how anyone can be a leader of any type and be so incredibly willfully ignorant of others’ experiences.

  19. Fearless-Speech-1131 Avatar

    To be fair though, they have both always admitted that they are partisan. Everyone knows which side they are on so obviously their opinions are always subjective. They may say they are neutral, objective and consistent but at the end of the day, they are still commentators working for money so it’s probably not a good idea to put too much weight on their varying opinions.

  20. CorrectProfession461 Avatar

    Why have I seen about 10 of these kinds of posts?

    Is it people larping as fans just to shit on them?

  21. GTFOakaFOD Avatar

    Thank you for speaking out. For every you, I hope there are thousands more feeling the same way and not on reddit.

  22. Thedran Avatar

    Ben Shapiro is a great example of someone who stood out negatively not because of his beliefs but because of his rhetorical style. Everything about how he talks is designed to manipulate and not in a normal way of trying to get people to view your thoughts as reasonable but in a super disingenuous way and it was all the time. When someone lives their life talking and portraying themselves as an untrustworthy dude it’s hard for me to take anything you say with a grain of salt because I’m not even sure what he really believes anymore.

    Candace Ownes has always been insufferable in the same way a lot of biased pundit radio personalities are. I treat her the same way I treat Morgan or Alex Jones where they want to paint an image using “facts” instead of presenting the facts as a whole. Her takes were always bad or at best surface level so she never had anything interesting for me to dig into. The only reason I watched Ben and not her though is Ben is actually entertaining with just how out of pocket he can be while also looking like the biggest nerd all of us knew in high school. There is actual entertainment value to his bullshit where as Owens has really nothing if you don’t love her narrative

  23. Mammoth_Rope_8318 Avatar

    When it comes to Ben Shapiro, If I- talked like- this- I too- could sound- very smart.

    Ben Shapiro capitalizes on being comfortable. Place him in unfamiliar surroundings, and he falters.

  24. OmegaJ8006 Avatar

    The truth shall set you free.