How do you deal with men who think feminism is bad and women just want to hate on men?
How do you deal with men who think feminism is bad and women just want to hate on men?
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How do you deal with men who think feminism is bad and women just want to hate on men?
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I… don’t. I choose not to interact with those men, as nothing good will come of it.
If I’m forced to, like at work, I avoid the subject and keep it strictly professional.
I don’t.
I don’t. I only talk to men who treat me with respect.
I steer clear of those types. They aren’t the types of people I want anything to do with.
If he seems receptive I’ll just explain feminism isn’t about hating men. Rather it’s about everyone being treated equally. Most of the time he won’t be reasonable. At that point, I just remind myself that it’s a “him” problem and try to have as little to do with him as possible.
I don’t waste my time on them.
You can’t fix or reason with stupid, drunks, racist or sexist. I don’t waste my breath on them.
I don’t entertain them, I used to try to argue with them but men like that aren’t looking for a discussion
I avoid them when it’s possible to do so, and ignore them when it’s not. They’re not worth spending time thinking about, let alone interacting with.
Those kinds of people most of the time will refuse to hear other opinions, so there’s no point in trying to argue with them. Don’t waste your breath, they’re not worth it.
I choose not to interact with people like that beyond what is absolutely required. They’re already telling me all I need to know about them and their worldview. It’s like racists or homophobes or whatever people who hold hateful generalized and stereotypical beliefs about other people out of their own prejudices. They are not people I’m willing to invite into my life, so they aren’t welcome there.
I dont mind them as long as their not misogynists
I tried to have lot of meaningful conversation with such men in my early 20s. That was way before manosphere podcasters became a thing. It was still futile, and almost impossible to make them see reason. Now, I really couldn’t care less, I’ll just walk out if I see any man trying to mansplain feminism to me.
It depends on how close they are to me—if they are someone I consider a close friend or family member, I genuinely cannot help but argue and try to get them to change their point of view. I feel this gut punch of anger and betrayal and frustration.
With strangers, I try not to argue—no good will come out of it, especially since I know they will not listen and it’ll just waste my time and energy. But, I can’t stay silent either, and I like to make my stance clear, just so they know—it’s like a ‘don’t be a bystander’ thought in my mind.
Make friends with their wives, daughters and sisters, coax them around to your way of thinking. That’ll really piss them off.
Same as most women here, I don’t engage with them as much as I can!
Life is too short to waste it on assholes
Honestly, the term “feminism” is quite infected. At its purest form, I think anyone would agree that we want equality. But I think that “second wave” “third wave” feminism (or what ever it’s called) has sort of ruined the original expression. Especially since it has been grouped up with LGBTQ+ issues, and probably foremost transpeople issues.
I have a hard time seeing most men opposing equality, but it’s easy to se how “radical feminism” (as the internet calls it) can discourage from wanting to promote feminism.
And considering the average man’s filter bubble, it’s easy to see how radical feminism would create more traction and drive traffic (to further feed the algorithm).
Ask any man if they are against equality and I’m sure none says no. Ask them if they are against equality of outcome and I’m sure that they’ll say yes. Ask them if they support feminism, and I’d think a lot of men interpret that as radical feminism and equality of outcome.
So, it’s a whole lot of semantics involved in this discussion. Because the average male algorithm interprets the word feminism completely different than you, I’m sure.
I literally don’t. Time, energy, and patience are finite resources.
Honestly? I don’t deal with them.
If a guy hears “feminism” and immediately thinks it’s “man hate,” he’s telling on himself.
Not my job to teach grown men basic respect.
I just leave them on read and move on — plenty of guys out there who actually get it.
I don’t. I move on from them.
Whether it’s family , friends , partner.
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They don’t understand the definition. Feminist are just people that think we all deserve the same. If they understand that definition, and aren’t feminists themselves, then they actually think they’re better than women.
I understand because there are a lot of women who call themselves feminists who do hate on men
By ignoring them.
I avoid them at all costs.
Smile and nod boys, smile and nod.
No but honestly, it’s not worth it. They won’t listen to any argument you might make, they’ll just try to find a way to twist your words into a way that may ever so slightly align with their POV.
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I ignore those men.
I don’t. Never waste your breath on people committed to misunderstanding you.
I have to openly mock these men. I’m a straight white dude, and I work in a privileged part of town. Many men I meet and work with like to talk to me as if I have love Donald Trump, as if I’m cool to make fun of anything effeminate or gay, and as if women are such a fucking problem and a huge drag.
I have to talk to young men that sound like seventy year old dudes talking about women.
I make jokes. I openly talk about how hard it must be to get laid when everybody you’re trying to fuck is so fucking problematic and emotional all the time. I call THEM out on being emotional over shit, after they’d just lamented about how emotional women always are.
Women deal with too much bullshit for any of us to stay quiet when we witness it.
EDIT: FUCK this is Ask Women.
I’m sorry everybody. I thought this was just a regular co-ed Ask thread. My bad.
I try to determine if they are open at all to any dialog. If they are, I will try to pivot on how feminism has and could continue to benefit men.
If they aren’t open, I usually don’t bother engaging at all.
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If I can’t avoid, I am all business. Stiff politeness is all they get. No smiles, no warmth, no more than small talk.