I never understood why does someone with e.g. dyscalculia get a longer time for a math test and the school is extremely supportive of them and someone, who is simply suffering from low intelligence, doesn’t get the same treatment.
They both have a problem with the brain, they both aren’t capable of functioning normally, neither of them chose it, but the result is very different.
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Honestly I don’t care if people have learning disabilities. Everyone should get the same treatment. Any form of “support” that gives them an advantage is really just another form of discrimination
It’s not like they empathised with the fast people
>They both have a problem with the brain, they both aren’t capable of functioning normally
If they both have a problem with the brain that makes them incapable of “functioning normally” shouldn’t both situations be diagnosable? Is the real problem that the the medical community isn’t recognizing certain types of learning disability?
To your main point, though, why not just give everyone extra time on the math test? Would that solve the problem? or would it still be unfair that the disadvantaged students are getting longer than others?
below average IQ is considered an intellectual disability in and of itself by a significant number of school districts, if not all of them
They can’t though as it stands. School is about getting kids ready to join the workforce. Are their employers gonna give them extra time to complete their tasks?
And as someone with dyscalculia i just wonder why you cant just say “why cant school help people who have a hard time” instead of involving people with learning disabilities
For the same reason we exclude people who are just shit at running from the paralympics
Depends on the country tbh. Where I live children who are not that bright get extra help too.
I’m from the UK, so not sure what it’s like elsewhere, but my entire school life I struggled with basic maths, numeracy and arithmetic, I got a U- or a 1 in every single maths exam I ever did, from first school all the way to my maths re take in college. I was already bad at maths but then in high school I was so brutally bullied that I just stopped trying to learn all together, by the end of highschool, my maths skills were at the level of a 9 year old because I only knew a couple of my times tables, i never learned how to read an analog clock cause it just didn’t click, I still don’t understand division or subtraction and don’t even get me started on using drawn techniques. I’m 23 now, still totally clueless and I rely on a calculator for everything. I can’t work a till job because of it either, I remember during my GCSE exams, I was so clueless that I barely answered any of the questions because word maths problems especially trip me up and it’s almost if I have dyslexia but for numbers, all the numbers and worded maths problem on the page looks all muddled up or I could be right in the middle of calculation and either forget entirely what the calculation was or I’d not know where else to go with the calculation. Absolute hell. But hey, some people aren’t cut out for maths, it isn’t s measure for intelligence, I have quite a high IQ and I’m very skilled in the more creative and philosophical subjects, even english literature and language, but I’m just not able to cope with core subjects like maths, psychics, chemistry and geography etc. 🙂
The main issues i have with the education system is how they teach to everyone like they are the same.
Not everyone learns the same way but it is on the child for not learning as fast or as well.
A child may be smart but the way the work is presented may not work for them.
I have dyscalculai myself. I got 15-30 min extra when I was in high school.
The problem with dyscalculai is that it takes me way longer to process numbers correctly, and I mix up numbers, especially basic things like multiplication.
It’s not that I’m slow. Everything takes just more time. The reason why we get more time is because we need it to perform like our peers.
People who are slow are very different than having a lower intelligence, nor is it a diagnosis. Normally, it has underlying issues that could be a diagnosis that will give you that extra support.
One can work hard to overcome their lack of intelligence and some people can’t improve much if they have a learning disability like dyslexia
This is kinda a confusing post to me, being, if a kid is notably “slower” than the rest of their peers, they have a learning disability regardless of diagnosis.
If the school notices this, it’s not their job to do anything, but they should be working with the child’s guardians to ensure the child gets a fair education, and that the child is taken care of and taught properly.
Being “slow” or having a lower intellect than the rest of your peers, is a disability, because it’s disabling and affects many aspects of everyday life.
Slow processing is fairly common, low intelligence and cognitive abilities are getting more and more research and are being viewed more often than they have been in the past, this is a reason older generations of people say:
“well, autism just wasn’t a thing back in my day” -simply because people who had autism weren’t recognized, and the symptoms and other issues that’s come along with it, weren’t known.
“They both have a problem with the brain, they both aren’t capable of functioning normally, neither of them chose it, but the result is very different.” -proving this point, both have disadvantages due to cognitive and intellectual abilities. It’s all dependent on how the adults react and how they choose to respond.
This is just wrong. They are afforded all of the same learning opportunities that any student would be. I think you need to do more research before you form these opinions. I’m perplexed at where you came to these conclusions?
I’ve always thought it was a bit odd that you can tell jokes and make fun of people with an IQ of 90 all day long – in fact it’s a big part of a lot of stand-up comedy.
But if you make fun of someone with an IQ of 75, you’re an asshole.
And I say this not even disagreeing with it. Just pointing out that it’s a thing.
A lot of it depends on whether or not the parents have gone through the process of getting a diagnosis and then a iep (individual education plan) for their child. Two of my three children have iep’s and both of them outline longer test taking times. If a parent doesn’t take action for their child, the child could certainly ‘fall through the cracks’.