India and Pakistan?

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I’m freaking out, what are the chances that Pakistan and India will go to Nuclear War?

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  1. zunzwang Avatar

    Within the range of possibilities but not likely.

  2. Concise_Pirate Avatar

    Quite low, since this would result in up to millions of deaths on both sides.

  3. ForScale Avatar

    Remember when all those other wars you were worried about went nuclear?

  4. untempered_fate Avatar

    They’ve been to war before, while in possession of nukes, without nuking each other. So probably no nukes. Anything is possible though.

  5. anactualspacecadet Avatar

    Zero, take some zoloft

  6. SweetMysterious7002 Avatar

    They’ve been at war with each other for hundreds of years. Before the partition and before India was split and Pakistan was created. Indians and Muslims have been fighting with each other for ages. But they’ve been fighting over Kashmir (don’t know if it’s spelt right) which is not worth fighting over.

  7. KeyLog256 Avatar

    Are you in India or Pakistan?

    If not, don’t worry. Won’t affect you.

    EDIT – I see we’ve got people who hate India and Pakistan on the downvote. Astonishing. Too cowardly to reply too.

  8. aggie1391 Avatar

    MAD (mutually assured destruction) is still a thing. Even if this gets hotter and shooting starts, launching a nuke is a massive escalation and is extremely unlikely to happen in any feasible scenario. Pakistan doesn’t want India, India likewise doesn’t want Pakistan. They both want Kashmir, but they aren’t about to lob nukes over it, which would guarantee nukes getting lobbed back. It could still get bad, but nuke bad is not likely.

  9. Only_Upwards Avatar

    The chances of India and Pakistan going to nuclear war are very low…but not zero. Both sides understand the consequences and maintain deterrence, with India following “No First Use” and Pakistan reserving the right to strike first (if threatened). The real danger lies in escalation from miscalculation, which can be managed by dialogue. Hopefully.

  10. Future-Cause-9577 Avatar

    Are there wars going on where no Muslims are involved?

  11. Captain-Obvious-69 Avatar

    The first country to launch a nuke anywhere in 21st century will cease to exist.

  12. Pure_Flamingo574 Avatar

    very unlikely lol

  13. mel56259 Avatar

    The end is nigh! Repent your sins and make peace for the afterlife!

  14. hangender Avatar

    No nukes for sure. India doesn’t want to escalate and Pakistan doesn’t have the money to escalate

  15. HungryDepth5918 Avatar

    Most states do not actually want to get into a nuclear war. I think youll be ok

  16. southernsuburb Avatar

    Read this bro

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Pakistani_wars_and_conflicts?wprov=sfla1

    It won’t become nuclear. It’ll become another page in this.

  17. Viper_Red Avatar

    All this already happened in 2019

  18. West_Reindeer_5421 Avatar

    If Russia nuke Ukraine they definitely will follow. And since the amount of Russian missile strikes increased dramatically since the US became pro-Russian and just a minute ago there were two more ballistic missile strikes in Kyiv..

    We’ll meet again, don’t know where, don’t know when…

  19. grifterrrrr Avatar

    India has a No First Use policy with regard to its nuclear arsenal. I doubt this will spiral into a nuclear war. Most likely some targeted strikes between both sides and firing across the LOC until it fizzles out 

  20. AKA-Pseudonym Avatar

    India conducted airstrikes on Pakistani territory for roughly the same reasons back in 2019. In fact a lot of footage and headlines being shared are actually from that incident. And there have been lots of cross-border skirmishes. So there’s definitely precedent for this sort of thing happening and not resulting in nuclear war or even any prolonged conflict.

  21. the_penguin_rises Avatar

    Not likely. Nukes are a deterrent, not an opening move. You don’t drop one on a place you plan to occupy seeing as radioactive wastelands aren’t great real estate. And both sides know full well they’d get nuked back. India and Pakistan have no real incentive to escalate to that level; neither wants to occupy the other, and both understand what mutually assured destruction means. The nukes are there to prevent total defeat, not to win a war.

    That said, I don’t know enough about the conflict to understand what the goals of each side are – aside from hating each other.

  22. myownfan19 Avatar

    Very small. They have done this before, they know how to keep it contained.

  23. oknowtrythisone Avatar

    I’d say pretty low.

  24. The_Werefrog Avatar

    They are close enough to each other that doing so would wreak extreme havoc on both nations ensuring that neither survives.

    That being said, it is within the realm of possibility. Far more likely they will use more conventional warfare methods to attempt to destroy the adversary. In the process, there will then be other shadow helpers who will fight alongside them.

  25. hasanahmad Avatar

    FYI. India has refused to show evidence to any international group that Pakistan was behind terror attack in Pahalgam. Even Trump refused to totally side with India in follow up days after attack as a result.

  26. Hanomanituen Avatar

    One hundred percent. My prediction is less than ten years.

  27. BigBastardReturns Avatar

    Pakistan has nothing to lose, failed economy, failed state, literal zombies. You never know

  28. Obvious-Highlight190 Avatar

    India has a mad dog fanatic hindutva supremacist nazi as it’s leader, so anything is possible from indian side, for Pakistan I would say we won’t strike first but we sure as hell won’t hold back if india attacks us with nuclear weapons.

  29. Rare-Climate876 Avatar

    I don’t think it’s a smart idea to use nukes against a country where you share borders.

  30. Butane9000 Avatar

    Not zero but currently not high.

    Pakistan’s only threatened to use nuclear weapons against Indian troops within Pakistans borders. Basically if India overruns various cities of Pakistan the Pakistani military will just wipe their own cities off the map to wipe out the Indian troops there.

    Meanwhile India has stated that if Pakistan uses nuclear weapons there will be a direct strategic response (i.e. Nuking Pakistan’s various population centers).

    So realistically unless India full on invades and is successful I doubt nuclear weapons will be exchanged.

  31. AbdussamiT Avatar

    No chance whatsoever. To help you understand, it’s like we live next door so if they do something this drastic, it will affect them too.

    What will happen is other wars like stopping water etc.

  32. BenShapiroRapeExodus Avatar

    While they have access to nukes, the general social contract among nations is to not use them. Rather we will probably see the deployment of excretamechanical weapons

  33. Amockdfw89 Avatar
    1. The point of nukes is to avoid a country obliterating you. It is a deterrent and weapon of last resort.

    Neither India nor Pakistan want to destroy the world o er their feud because that would mean they themselves would die.

  34. Ok-Afternoon-3724 Avatar

    India and Pakistan have been rattling the threat of nuclear attack at each other since 1998.

    The two countries have fought 3 wars against each other since independence from Britain in 1947. They have been long time enemies.

    In 2019, according to former Secretary of State Pompeo, the two came very close to a nuclear exchange in a clash over Kashmir. Both control parts of it, and claim all of it. Anti-India militants, supposedly backed by the Pakistani government attacked and killed 40 Indian soldiers. India struck back at Pakistan. Then intelligence said that the Pakistanis had begun to prepare some nukes for use. And the Indians started talking about doing the same.

    Finally US State Department, and likely others including the Brits talked the two into calming down.

    As things stand now over there, I think it unlikely to degenerate into a nuclear conflict.

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  36. unhinged_centrifuge Avatar

    Similar confrontations have happened before. Exchanges are usually limited

  37. LNGBandit77 Avatar

    Nothing. No one’s firing nukes over this

  38. shrimpynut Avatar

    We just don’t know. But Pakistan has more to lose if they do so. They aided terrorist in killing Indian citizens for no reason that were on vacation. Failed economy and failed state. They will risk global isolation to the extreme and would likely cease to exist as a functioning state and could possibly be taken controlled by India.

    As well they don’t really have a true second strike capability like India, China, Russia, US. They will almost throw up the white flag immediately. So overall we don’t know but unlikely.

  39. PureMichiganMan Avatar

    Very unlikely but is a possibility depending on how much more escalates.

  40. DifferentProblem5224 Avatar

    thats like freaking out about 2 random gorillas fighting each other in africa

  41. Throwbabythroe Avatar

    Short Answer: A nuclear was is possible but improbable, especially if the retaliation is measured and limited by both sides.

    Long Answer: India conducted a missile strike on major complexes of alleged terrorist organizations which Pakistan harbor, supports, and or turns a blind eye to.

    The attacks were in response to terrorists killing 26 civilians in Indian Kashmir. Now India claimed Pakistan supported this terrorist attack, and Pakistan denied it. So 2 weeks after the terrorist attack, India conducted a missile strike into Pakistan. The Indian government did a press release stating they only intended to strike terrorist facilities with no intention to attack Pakistani military.
    Pakistan publicly stated this is seen as an act of war and they will retaliate. What the retaliation will look like, who knows – perhaps missile strikes and or air strikes. But it won’t instantly escalate into a nuclear exchange.

    Longer Answer: While both nations have nuclear weapons, their policy and doctrine to use them is drastically different. Where India practices No-First Use (only use nuclear weapons as response to first strike by another nation use nuclear weapons first).
    Pakistan has an ambiguous doctrine and have repeatedly stated they will use nuclear weapons as needed.

    Realistically, Pakistani military would not use nuclear weapons unless their military (I mean their nation) faced an existential threat from
    India. Such threat would be if India launched massive invasion of Pakistan. In such a case, Pakistan would deploy tactical nuclear weapons to deter, degrade, and or destroy large formations of Indian land forces thrusting into Pakistan.

    The use of tactical nuclear weapons, by any nation from Cold War to today remains an ambiguous and low threshold. Tactical nukes hit military facilities or large formations to shape the battlefield at-scale.

    Political Backdrop:
    The current Indian government under Modi is very hawkish towards Pakistan, taking far-right Pro-Hindu and anti-Muslim stance at the expense of minorities.
    The Pakistani government is run by the military whose primary purpose to erode India by sponsoring terrorists and using the nation to support the military. Pakistan has historically been a military dictatorship.

    The measured strike by India saves India’s face, but also puts Pakistan in an awkward position, if they retaliate, they look like a villain. If they retaliate, they justify India launching further military strikes (which maybe what the Indian gov’t wants – lure them into an ever escalating conflict). As long as strikes are measured, neither nations will go up the escalatory nuclear ladder.

  42. Professional_Ad_975 Avatar

    Not in India’s interest to escalate to a full fledged war. India is a growing economy and looking for even more growth especially now with the way things stand with China. Any signs of war will make India less favorable.

  43. No-Celebration3097 Avatar

    This plot was in an apocalyptic movie once

  44. BadKnuckle Avatar

    Close to zero. India hit 6-7 missiles into Pakistani territory. Almost all of them fell into empty or abandoned areas. Unfortunately a few members of a family died somehow.
    You can throw a rock from the sky in some of these cities and someone will get killed they are so populated.
    Even the last time India struck in Pakistan it was empty lot of land.
    Both parties will go home in a few days claiming victory. The corrupt leader will get re elected again because Modi will show that he struck and caused damaged while Pakistan forces will claim they struck down Indian Jets.
    They will get themselves luxury mansions and foreign trips and retire in style. Feeding off their poor.

  45. BiLovingMom Avatar

    They’ll puss out at the last second.

  46. Individual_Ebb_8147 Avatar

    Not likely. They both have a lot to lose, literally everything. So these are skirmishes that might translate to troops on the ground war but not nuclear.

  47. holounderblade Avatar

    Bro. Sign off. It’s not happening. While it’s possible, your uneducated worrying is only going to hurt your health. Stop it.

    Your entire account seems to be just getting hypochondriacal over small things. It’s seriously time to just delete reddit, stop freaking out over social media and misinformation, and live your life

  48. Etheryelle Avatar

    0 – both the US and Russia have very vested interests in tepid peace between these two countries and I believe both would step in of things strongly headed to nukes.

  49. ramdomvariableX Avatar

    between 5% and 25%. We got a failed state with not much to lose, and religious zingoism on one side, so it’s with in the realm of possibility.

  50. Proquis Avatar

    Not high, but remember it’s not their first conflict ever so…

  51. Belovedchattah Avatar

    Take India and give the points

  52. HeroBrine0907 Avatar

    A lot of minor attacks and operations have occurred before, but both India and Pak have kept their hands aay from the nuke button. That said, this time is slightly more serious considering the suspension of treaties, but in all likelihood nothing major should occur. Maybe US relations will take a hit considering Pak claimed to be a pawn for the West but that should be a diplomatic issue at most.

  53. andItsGone-Poof Avatar

    0% to 0% – long history of small-scale, non-escalatory counters. Both the Pakistan and Indian armies have 0 interest in going to full-scale war.

  54. Top_Strain_9163 Avatar

    What’s weird is that Pakistani’s and Indians are even fighting in the streets of England right now lol 😂 diversity is wild.

  55. deathablazed Avatar

    It is unlikely.

    However if anyone was going to go and do it them doing it to each other would be at the top of my list of most likely.

  56. Snoo_50786 Avatar

    its technically possible but entirely unlikely. You gotta understand that everything you know about nukes and nuclear war is NOT lost on these nation’s leaders as stupid and inept as you may view them.

  57. Right-Yogurtcloset-6 Avatar

    World war 3 is coming

  58. emptybottle2405 Avatar

    When have they not been fighting? Nothing new. Just turn off the tv for a while