Hey guys, I genuinely don’t know the answer to this and has been wondering about this question for a long time. People who can’t afford to have kids, are poor and struggling to make ends meet- why do they have kids? I mean work on yourself, get a bit stable and then bring life into the world. The world is fucked up as it is, the quality of life is declining and bringing life in the world isn’t your only responsibility. If you can’t provide the bare minimum to your kids ( I understand situations happen), why bring them to scrape the bottom of the barrel?
PS: sorry in advance if this offends someone, I just want to understand the mindest behind this.
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Because at some point you just have to take the dive.
I still want kids, but at this rate all my “preparing” is just gonna made me an old fart who never does the deed.
Kids are expensive, but sometimes just having a kid can be enough to motivate you to get your shit together.
They’re just doing it backwards.
Also, never apologize for offending anyone. If you’re confused on why people aren’t smart enough to have kids while being prepared, then recognize that some people are smart enough not to be offended about your curiosity.
Some people feel a religious imperative to have kids (went to a Catholic wedding recently where one of the vows was promising to have kids). Some people have their birth control (pills, condoms, etc) fail and either can’t access abortion or have moral/religious objections to abortion. Some people don’t think plans through. Some think plans through extensively and decide to have kids anyways either because they intend to/believe they can provide a good life for their kids now, or because they’re sure things will turn around for them soon.
It’s complicated.
Children give life purpose.
In my early twenties, I didn’t think like an adult.
Dunno about other countries but in Pakistan they do it to have another person to work. They would put young kids sometimes even 5-6 year Olds into work and get what little they can earn. ( Personally I think these people are morons) But I won’t say they shouldn’t make kids because they are poor. To each their own.
Aside from the fact that they may want kids and understand that it may not be possible for them to reach financial stability in their lifetime, you also have to consider the poor access to medical care in many places, such as the US, which can create barriers to preventing pregnancy.
Sex education is lacking still in many places, it can be harder to access contraceptives, especially prescription-based ones that require you to see a doctor first (and a doctor is another expense, on top of the prescription), and if someone falls pregnant by accident and does not want to keep it, not only might it be a costly procedure to get an abortion, but they could live in a place where such a procedure is illegal and therefore they cannot go through with it.
And, sure, you can use adoption as an excuse – why not give it up? – but many pregnant people do form a bond with their baby during the many months of pregnancy and it can be a very emotionally traumatic experience to give up that child, rather than just put their feet on the ground and attempt to raise it as best they can in their circumstances.
Hell, right now the US government is trying to encourage more women to get pregnant, even offering a small monetary bonus to those who do, to combat what they believe is a fertility crisis (it sounds terrifyingly like Gilead when just typing it out). The government wants poor people to have kids just so that there are more kids, even though they refuse to help provide for those kids, refuse to provide the proper prenatal and medical care to ensure healthy pregnancies, etc.
Abortion and even contraception wasn’t available in my country till recently
We were naked apes on trees, without big fangs and claws to defend ourselves, except for the intelligence and cooperation among herd members as our only weapon.
Our babies were born so immature that they needed constant attention for over a year and their random cries would attract predators anytime.
We as a species were so poor and so weak we couldn’t afford the luxury of having babies in the wild, yet we decided to reproduce ourselves by supporting each other, and millions of years later here we are.
They don’t consider the long-term consequences of their actions, instead seeking short-term pleasure. Same logic applies to having accident kids and not sorting their life out in the first place.
Because they want to.
Some people are genuinely excited for and passionate about raising a kid, and believe that any and all financial struggles they face are worth raising a child. The feeling of nursing kids and integrating care into your lifestyle. Teaching. Emotional hardships and rewards. You cannot experience certain scenarios under these themes if you don’t have kids. Some people cater to these themes through taking care of plants or pets, or by volunteering. Other people cater to it by having kids. That is something they want to do in the same way that some people want to never be a parent.
Other people, specifically those who carry the child, sometimes don’t want to have an abortion. Other people dont have access to it. Some people dont understand the financial repercussions until they experience parenthood.
Unplanned pregnancies happen everyday.
It’s what happens when people do it. Honestly it just shows how fucked up and far gone from reality our society is that creating children (something that is so incredibly easy to do as a species) is so hard when you are poor.
Because the average and quite frankly, the majority of people living rn in this world is stupid.
And when I say stupid, not ACTUALLY dumb, but smart enough to do and decide on the right things but they go for the stupid act every single time because heh, iz fun.
They know the actual right things that they should be doing and making decisions on, but they don’t act on it.
Most, if not, all people know that eating junk foods would make u sick and fat, but a sht ton of people eat it anyways coz they can and its enjoyable.
Does it benefit them logically? Fck no. They would instead say sht like because it makes them happy when in reality their body is actually screaming to throw that sht out of the system.
People do drugs, thinks sex is like a casual physical activity, drinking alcohol like its one of the healthiest drinks in the world to consume, dont give af the kinds of food they stuff on their mouths and into their bodies, etc…..
Same goes for money and the money that supports to raise a child or children financially.
At the very start, how u become married and raise a child is already fcked. I’m talking about dating.
In the dating world, u turn ur brain off. Most people dgaf about how many kids they want to have or picturing a nice stable home.
What they care about is how good someone is on bed, their status, how they make them feel. All of these do not benefit nor improve the chances of ur children of having a better life.
And that’s why u see couples having drinking problems, abuse problems, couples fcking up their own family because they live in this delulu world wherein they think they are still in their youth being the king of their school, or the young bad boy or slaying queens during their hoe phase.
These are the ones who become both problematic in their own family and to society. “The cool ones now, losers later” type of people.
You take a look at most of the actual successful people in life and they are either boring, very disciplined, or the ones who were considered “losers” back then but now, they are the ones striving in life probably more than prospering that what they need to be.
Lots of humans are NOT intelligent, that is all. They are unable to reflect, to see the development of a situation.
“Hold my beer”
Just because you are poor it doesn’t mean you give up on your dreams or you don’t want a family. just because someone has money doesn’t mean that there are a good parent. There are tons of people who have money to give their children, a white picket fence, piano lessons or their own room and their children end up being murderers or just awful in every other way.
Human nature. Family is most important thing in world. You have your family and then work to figure out the rest. That’s been what’s normal for a million years. Waiting for finances is the super weird new thing.
In Canada the more kids the more money you get from the government. Where I grew up no dad’s lots of kids around . Did they have money not really but there was not a sense of struggle.
Because a lot of people are stupid careless piles of shit. Do you have any other questions at this time?
Why should they be punished by not having kids when they’ve already been stepped on by society and capitalism? And since this is the country of dreams, and anyone becoming a millionaire, it’s not a terminal decision for them.
Kids = social security and retirement funding.
These families survive. So it kinda works.
The richer a society, the fewer kids, because kids are not needed.
That’s a dangerous mindset that you’re treading, not sure if you know that. “Why do poor people get hungry if they can’t afford food?” It’s not a genetic lottery, until we fix this system poverty will be a constant, as will obscene wealth-hoarding. And I mean obscene in the truest sense of the word. Disgusting.
People get pregnant on accident, or idk they want kids? It’s a really dangerous idea that people throw out there, implying that poor people do not deserve the good things in life because of who they were born to, when in fact we could provide everyone with a decent standard of living. Maybe that’s the question that you should be asking: Why don’t we?
You could ask “Why do governments prioritize helping people who do not need help when there are families living in poverty?”
Yeah just no survival instinct and happy to pass their lack of survival instinct onto the next generation
Some people don’t know how to survive until they have kids.
Some are teens when it happened to them, and have kids when they’re still learning how to adult.
I was one of those kids and it’s not as bad as it seems. Chaotic and frantic yeah. Physical and emotional turmoil? More than likely.
But like…it’s just experiences everyone has. Everyone is learning to navigate the world every day. And even having things perfect doesn’t mean you won’t suffer later for other reasons.
The most important thing you can give a kid is love. You can have a mansion, trust fund, and food galore for your kid..but without your love they’ll end up homeless and seeking connection through material substances. Depressed and self loathing.
Life isn’t about material.
Cause they like fucking.
Something that I think is important to remember is that sometimes people are doing great, have kids and THEN something happens to where they can’t afford things ❤️
A lot of people want kids. Most people like sex.
There ya go.
In countries with good social security it is mostly poor people who have a lot of kids. The reason is that the poorer you are the more subsidies you get from the government. So the kids can not only cost them nothing but can even financially benefit them.
They be freaky asf and not thinking at the moment
Because life is bigger than society cost of living, people live in all spectrums of survival, from slums all the way to acred mansions. They live and all have long lives. Don’t you think it’s unfair for the right to life to be bound to what one’s neighbor thinks is right one’s child, will one love them more because they have more physical things, you get a child because it’s one’s right but it’s also a child’s life to live and their future is upto them.
Wealth comes and goes, debt visits, bad times hit everyone, do you imagine a former well off person looks at their child when things are bad and say “if only …”, that’s cruel, one major purpose to us all is to pass on the baton and that’s why parents crave their kids and kids crave to go start their own lives.
Because birth control isn’t 100% effective and shit happens.
In this subreddit of no stupid questions, the answer to your question is stupidity
It’s the #1 driving force of humanity
Simple as that
Billions of people survive on less than a dollar a day. Are you suggesting they should be sterilized? Or are you suggesting that poor people in the richest countries on earth shouldn’t have children because our systems create and exploit poverty? WTF is wrong with you?
If you’re poor and you’re always likely to be poor, no amount of ‘working on yourself’ is going to change that. So if they want kids, they just have kids.
In a lot of societies, there is a pressure on people to take care of their parents. Which, yeah, you don’t want a country where people are thrown out by their kids regularly. However, this takes an ugly turn in economically backward classes.
More children means more food yes, but it also means more helping hands. More helping hands means more money and in old age it means someone who’ll take care of you. The point isn’t to provide the kid anything, the point is for the kid to provide.
Is it good? No. But you can probably see why someone would take such a step in order to at least live life without the constant pressure of money into your 60s or further.
People who grow up in poverty often don’t feel that a better lifestyle is attainable for them. And to some extent they’re kinda right. Like we have so many high schoolers today who are still illiterate. How realistic is it that they could all just hustle from that point to get their dream career, afford nice vacations, that sorta thing. Having a family with kids sometimes seems like the only “good thing” they’ll get in life.
There’s other situations too of course but like if someone really wants kids, they tell themselves they’ll do whatever they can.
I don’t believe there ever is a perfect time to have kids – besides I doubt any amount of preparation would actually help because each child is so unique in their needs.
Have two kids (6 and 3 yr boys) and struggling to make ends meet. Laid off from a great paying job last year and have been struggling to find a solid career since. Just received a letter saying I was accepted into the IUOE (operating engineers union) as an apprentice. So, slowly climbing our way back.
Most traditional goals cost money. Nice car? Buy a house? Exotic holiday? All cost money. But do you know what’s universally celebrated and technically free? Creating a baby.
Government handouts
Impulse.
They have sex lol
Where I live there’s nothing else for a certain type of young person. Girls get pregnant aged around 19 because there’s no other role they aspire to, they have limited education, no job prospects and are seeing their mothers/friends/neighbours doing the same. There’s no other way they can “make” it on their own. Where I’m from if you have a baby you get a council house, and can live on state provided benefits. I’m not saying this is an easy cushy life, but it’s literally generational at this point and it’s all everyone in this part of life know how to do.
I know this because I register births for a living and see this every single day.
As for the poor working people, I think they just think “something will work out” and their overriding maternal instincts kick in. But I’m not sure about that really because I’m happily child free.
Most humans can’t afford to survive on their own. Not just now, but since the dawn of humanity. That’s why we live in social groups and multigenerational households.
They have unprotected sex.
In fact, the people you think wouldn’t survive do survive (that’s why there are more and more of us on the planet). If you’re referring to why people who struggle in life have children, it’s basically because the nature of living beings is to reproduce.
The vast majority of people are dumb and selfish.
And the children of those people are likely to be just as dumb and selfish as their idiotic and ill-equipped parents. And that’s how we end up with generational poverty and trauma.
Most poor people with kids were poor before kids.
I was only 19😔
Everyone is arguing with OP, but I agree with them.
This is coming from my own experience. I grew up in a poor household in a third world country. I did not have access to many privileges most others have. I’m considered lucky, since I’m an only child and my parents still make a decent income in order for me to survive, but I have friends who aren’t so fortunate.
It’s common in my country for parents to have many kids just to work them to the bone, believing that this will help lift their family up from poverty. They’ll have like ten kids, and they are sent off to work the minute they turn 13. Sadly, this method doesn’t work (obviously)… perhaps it’s the lack of education they receive. If that’s the case, I suppose I do feel sorry for them.
You can’t just say ‘it’s human nature’ and leave it at that. Wanting a child is different from wanting to be a parent. The child you bring into this world is it’s own person, with their own feelings and emotions.
Personally, I want to have children as well. My plan is to work hard and make enough money for now, so that my child may live a good life. If I do not manage to create a stable income for myself, then I’ll rather not have kids at all than to risk giving my child a tragic life.
But it’s also important to note the cases of forced pregnancies, marriage cultures and the lact of access to abortion in some places as well. There are women who are married off young just for the sake off having kids. It’s a culture I have no respect for. And education isn’t a privilege everyone has, especially those in third world countries, so there’s not much of a ‘safe sex’ lesson for teens/young adults either.
I read somewhere that the reason why people reproduce more in poorer conditions stems from a primal instinct to maximize the continuity of their genes. The more offspring they have, the better the chances that some of them will survive and pass on the genes.
For a lot of girls, they are not going to get attention or validation any other way than Number 1) Sexual and Number 2) pregnancy/baby.
Girls who grew up with a lot of religion, without a lot of education, and in poverty, will not have anything else to look forward to, and will get a startling amount of positive affirmations by having a baby.
Because if you are poor enough, the government will help. There is a sweet spot where it’s paid for. My brother had five, all on Medicaid where he could barely feed them and he worked two jobs.
And usually multiple kids. Once is a mistake but more is just madness.
Propaganda
Some governments offer financial help to parents, so some (not all, obviously) poor parents have kids as a source of income, or at least to supplement their wages. Combine this with couples who want children anyway, and it seems like a viable way to live… but unexpected bills and economic recession can catch them out.
(Source: I grew up poor on a council estate in the UK, and I’ve had to support my family as soon as the gov’s child support payments stopped)
The premise of idiocracy
They’ve probably been told that things “have a way of working out” and that there’s never a “right” time to have kids.
But I know a lot of people it didn’t work out well for at all. I grew up around a lot of kids who were raised in miserable poverty. Some of them only got the school meals and very little at home. No child should have to grow up that way.
Ask the government.
I believe that the answer to this question is the total lack of women’s healthcare in the poor communities of which you speak it’s not the same as the ones you came from where life is mapped out for you and if you stumble someone can and likely will pick you up dust you off and help you thru it there kids don’t have that support it’s what it means to have privelege to be born into a middle class environment means more then u think it does.
I found it shocking how few young poor women didn’t know that they can see any Gynecologist they want to under the women’s health care laws in our country you don’t need a referral you can find a doctor that has space on there clinic and just go but if you live in a poor area those types of doctors are not in your community so general practitioners see them and they do there best but it’s
Not there specialist and sheer demand keeps them busy and overwhelmed and not able to give the care needed and the town or city near that poor person is teeming with help and doctors but nobody tells you that. Poor ppp on a whole die from preventable diseases and even childbirth at far higher rates then those that live and school in a poor community it’s a sad cycle of poverty vs the cycle of privilege you get just by being in the location and family your in.
Privilege isn’t something be ashamed about but it gets murky when you don’t ask questions such as this and so I’m happy to see you are curious and you can use that curiosity to volunteer to mentor a young women less fortunate then you and perhaps you can help prevent an unplanned pregnancy or help a girl get into college by helping her see she has options it will look great on your college resume and give you a new friend who can show you there world which is full of beauty and richness that is different then yours but no less beautiful.
Kids bring benefits money
I’ll be blunt. Most people are NPC’s. They do whatever they want no matter the consequences. Our expectations are set way to high as a society. I’m conditioning mine to be WAY lower.
Sex drive is strong, and we have a faction of the populace that just wants to teach abstinence as opposed to a birth control method that’s been proven to actually work. We shouldn’t be surprised.
Condoms break dude.
Stupidity
Hope for the future? Hope for a lottery win? Planning to lean heavily on a social safety net and the goodness of others? Maybe they had a downturn in luck just after the kids were born?
To feel some kind of happiness that would ‘fix’ them or their struggles in life
If they didn’t the native population in a lot of countries would start to approach 0.
People who can afford to have kids usually don’t have the time as it is all taken up by university and then career, by time they think about kids it is too late (particularly where ivf isn’t available for free or at a low fee),
Even it is financially irresponsible to have children you cannot afford, it is an evolutionarily stable strategy (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionarily_stable_strategy). Not having children is not a sustainable practice at the organismal level, so it is reasonable to expect organisms to (generally) always reproduce when possible.
Psychology can tamp down on this behavior in humans, but that modulation is self limiting. Eventually, there would be evolutionary & cultural selection to resist indoctrination to not reproduce.
I think some of them at least don’t think too much ahead. They’re just trying to survive and living for today. They succumb to the nature of being human and have sex because it’s good in the moment and end up pregnant. They’re not thinking about whether it’s a good idea to bring a child into the world, it just happens. That’s what nature intended for use. That’s why it feels good, otherwise the human species wouldn’t propagate.
They use government assistance.
Rural Midwest USA here. I don’t know about other places, but here, you essentially can’t get government benefits of any kind if you don’t have kids.
If you don’t have kids and can’t work, the various agencies will fight you tooth and nail not to provide shit. They want you homeless, committing crimes to survive, getting arrested and becoming the property of the state.
If you fight and fight and they finally approve you, enjoy your $40 a week.
Meanwhile, if you have kids, here’s free healthcare, heating, rent, groceries, all of it. You’re set.
On its face, I see why they do it this way. Kids never deserve to suffer. Ever. I get that; please don’t think for a second I want children to go without.
BUT
Doing it this way incentivizes unprepared people of suspect moral/ethical integrity to start squattin’ ‘em out, with little or no thought towards anything related to childcare. Hence, a LOT of poverty/abuse/neglect, etc, cycles are created.
The way to fix it is a Universal Basic Income, but I’m 32, and I don’t see that even being jokingly considered in my lifetime.
Fuckin is free dude
They have less to lose.
People who are rich take a drastic decrease in their quality of life when sharing their wealth with their children.
If you are poor, might as well have kids. The poorer you are, the cheaper children are.
They are not taking piano lessons…
I thought only my countrymen would ask this kind of question. 😆
Religion, peer pressure, thinking that love will get them thru anything like a Hallmark tv movie
This mentality you speak of requires 1. Education and 2. Contraception. Without either of those, the thought is inexistent and, given our current context, if the person has neither of those they probably were such poor children that they don’t see any issue with their kids being born as poor.
There’s a great book on this topic from the mothers’ perspectives called “Promises I Can Keep, Why Poor Women Put Motherhood Before Marriage“. Two sociologists did a long term study of about 160 single mothers of various ethnicities in low income communities in America.
What they found kind of shocked them. Basically, in those cultures, single motherhood has become lauded and respected. For people who don’t have much in the way of money or agency, raising kids alone propels young women/teenaged girls into adulthood. It’s seen to be a mark of maturity. Their peers respect the “struggle” (their words). Men are seen only as a means to an end, to facilitate becoming a mother, and aren’t needed to help raise the child. The men in these cultures are then more than happy to oblige a woman who seems to provide sex with no long term commitments.
So a perpetuating cycle has developed, where kids growing up in these homes learn that 1.) Mom is the queen of the house and deserves all one’s love and respect for her hard work, and 2.) Dad is irrelevant.
You know they overturned roe v wade right
I see it’s been explained to you by others, so I’ll just tell you what my father told me when I got pregnant not at the most perfect time – It’s never the right time to have children, but it’s also always the perfect time to have children.
Peer pressure. Parents place enormous pressure and brow beat it into them. These people are not thinking w cold, hard rationality. When you have a child too soon or when you simply cant afford it, youre delaying retirement savings, home purchase, economic mobility, etc for the sake of “my parents wanted me to do this.” I have seen this happen with my own family
it was an accident.
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Class warfare the poorly educated are more likely to breed in poverty the upper echelons of society always push for erosion of education among people in poverty
It is super convenient, you get this new ID that you can get credit with, and then you just never have to pay it back. It becomes a problem for the next generation.
They’re selfish
Condoms cost money before hand. Kids only cost money afterwards.
Rape
I don’t think children are the object when lots of people decide to have sex. In the case of the poor, I don’t think many children are ever planned, they’re just the result.
This is rather judgmental given that women do not have unlimited time to have children. They do not have time to figure it out and become stable in most cases. If they haven’t had kids by 35, their odds of cheap, healthy positive pregnancy drastically declines. You are basically saying that from 18 to 35 (17 years) she has to figure out her life’s purpose for earning income, get the education to follow her calling, then have years to dedicate to that calling to save up to have kids, all while carving out time to stay physically and mentally fit AND looking for and finding Mr. Perfect. This doesn’t even consider recreational time. And this is if she chooses to have one at 35. For many women, 35 is already too late. I think the average age is 27 for first pregnancy. So 9 years to get all of life together is a bit unrealistic.
It also implies that poor people are so miserable that they shouldn’t exist. In my family (including extended), the happiest family unit is a member who had a few kids with a drug addict who is now dead. Those kids have not had many advantages but they are all enjoying life to the fullest with their living parent. Their holidays are full and happy. I know many of my “stable and got-it-together” family members are very jealous.
We can have a discussion about if her and their happiness is at the expense of others (her parents who provide assistance not knly to her, their grandchildrenand now great grandkids) and tax payers. But the fact remains that she is happy while others aren’t.
Unprotected sex is free entertainment.
There are a lot more reasons after that, but yeah.
My SO’s niece got pregnant junior year of high school (17yo). Her parents were unhappy. She told them “I don’t need your help, because I can do this on my own”. They asked how she planned to support the child and she said she would get food stamps and housing and healthcare from the government. Her parents asked her how that was “doing it on her own”…
Most people are selfish imbeciles
“It don’t cost nothing to f***”
Selfishness, bc they sure ain’t thinking about their kid.
Do you know how bad the world has been in the past, while people still had kids? I agree it’s best to be stable, but let’s not act like this is a new phenomenon. It’s still better now than like when people were living on the farm and losing half their kids by age 4.
They can’t afford birth control, and don’t know about anal.
There is always a societal pressure for people to have children. That seems to be changing now, which is causing a lot of politicians to freak out.
They grew up in such strict households that sex wasn’t allowed to be talked about at all. Mom & dad thought that just telling them “don’t have sex” was good enough advice (when we all know that piece of advice is the least effective against accidental pregnancies).
They’re the same parents that refuse to put their kids on birth control b/c “it just gives them a free pass to have sex out of wedlock”.
The “mindset” is that they, like many other people in the world, want the experience of bringing new life into the world and parenting. What a minimal financial standard of stability looks like for you might be radically different for someone else. Kids are way, way more than the financial costs. You can come from poverty and still be happy and healthy (ask me how I know) and you can come from wealth and be miserable.
I’ve met a few that had a “well make it through” or a “someone will help us out at some point” mindset, by no means was it the only mindset though. Many genuinely think if they make the kid their only priority, it will work out.
Then there’s the whole “raised to believe kids are the end goal” that some people were. And others who don’t necessarily want kids but were raised (or just want to be) anti abortion but also not want to use protection. Or some people like the initial idea of making kids but not being a parent. Plenty of scenarios
I ponder this same question all the time. I see people in lower income brackets struggling 10x more with kids and it just makes me feel so awful for them. They are not happy people. The kids end up in the same cycle of poverty – it never ends. So…why?
Because many people still don’t know how to fuck.
That’s why I’m with Antinatalism wholeheartedly.
Animals can’t afford anything. They don’t even have wallets. But they reproduce. Because it’s what we’re supposed to do.
Stopping people from having children is eugenics, even if they’re poor. The drive to have them is often stronger than the logic of current economics.
Let’s discuss why billionaires exist and how their existence is the very cause of people not being able to “afford to survive on their own.”
Your answer lies in your last sentence…trying to understand the mind-set in them. They are not using their mind at all. They have not learned anything that would help them with critical thinking skills. “Should I have a baby?” is a question that should be considered very seriously but serious thinking has not been done. They don’t use their mind because not thinking is much easier.
With many it is because they don’t take precautions to prevent it. They get knocked up with a child who is unwanted. Those children suffer. Some have children because they want them and they are more important than money. Money won’t replace the love of a child.
People love sex & not everyone is willing to abort a baby
Alot of us could afford kids if the govt didn’t extort and rob us so bad.
a lot of people have so little power in their lifes, they want a personal slave to treat however they want. children do not have rights and their parents legally own them. funnily enough that is the same reason why a lot of people get pets and then treat them like shit. they just want to have power over a living being.
Totally agree. If you aren’t in a financial position to have children then you shouldn’t. Unfortunately many people think with their genitals, or emotions, rather than their brains. Sad but true. And the children are the ones that suffer for it.
Poor people are frequently uneducated and/or stupid. They have nothing better to do but breed . Have nothing to offer to the world except be (often bad) parents. It’s such a base instinct, I swear there is a link between stupidity and amount of children/ age of first child.
Being horny and fiscal responsibility rarely occupy the same brain space at the same time.
I don’t know but poors love having a lot of children and I wish they’d stop.
It’s the most basic, fundamental biological drive of all animals on earth. Humans are animals, the hard-wired mandate to procreate will never, ever, ever be overcome on a population level by material conditions. It never has in human history. Enslaved people, populations that were experiencing mass starvation or displacement, people still got on with making babies.
As I am sure many addressed, lack of critical thinking and emotional control are very evident in this. More times than not, it was unsafe sex and an accident. When it is planned with no finances to provide for this child complete lack of empathy for the human you are bringing into the world.
Most of human history people couldn’t “afford” kids by our standard.
We evolved raising kids in trees and caves, people can and will raise kids regardless of economic barriers. It’s literally in our DNA.
Ever heard of THE BELL CURVE?
Bell Curve is a statistical representation of data that creates a symmetrical, bell-shaped curve when plotted.
The curve is perfectly balanced, with 50% of the data falling on either side of the central peak or average.
Answer is stupid people.
Here’s the point: there are as many stupid people as smart people. Stupidity rules in world especially in the USA.
Google it.
Because it’s the human imperative to procreate? And because life always finds a way, no matter the hardships. Kids will grow up, regardless of whether they are raised in a poor household or a rich one. And because kids are fun. And because sex is delicious? I mean, they have kids in poorest Burundi. Being poor is no excuse for not having kids.
Growing up in a very poor part of Ohio I can tell you it’s multiple reasons. First they are use to it and consider this it life it won’t ever change, I may as well live my life of get married, have kids, buy a house. Second sometimes it’s an accident they can’t or won’t get rid of so it’s like let’s buckle down and get this done.
Third the friends that got out, went to college, got a good job, then had kids had something happen car accident, death, divorce etc and they went from make huge (for us) money back to where they started.
Sadly, some women want to have a baby because then “someone will love them” because they have been mistreated and neglected their whole lives.
A friend of mine adopted some kids out of the foster care system, and their birth-mother said that she really liked all the attention she got when she was pregnant. (She was 16 when she had the first one.). She said she had been ignored and neglected her whole life, and when she got pregnant, there were social workers, doctors, and lots of other people who would come spend time with her, talking about her upcoming birth and the adoption process.
Then she had the baby and put it up for adoption, and all of that stopped. So she got pregnant again.
It’s very sad. I have deep sympathy for these girls even if I disagree with the idea of them having child after child with no financial considerations.
Fun stuff is expensive and sex is cheap. Unprotected sex is even cheaper. Having kids in some poor parts of the US us a way of life. You get housing, food, insurance and sometimes some spending money. It’s a sad thought but there are still people who live off welfare just so they don’t have to get a job.
Others have already covered the desire for family without thinking you’ll do better.
Biological clock is another thing. Put off kids until you feel like you can afford them and you’ll be too old to have them.
Young women are gullible and young men are silver tongued devils when they are horny. They will talk women into unprotected sex quickly.
Because pool ppl want entertainment and sex is fun and free.
They hope thier kid makes it big and cares for them when they are older
I cannot agree with you more.
How many “why do poor people breed” threads can we fit on Reddit?