This might not be an unpopular opinion but ive never seen any body talk about this. I do not believe faith schools should be a thing. These are literally schools where you send to get indoctrinated. These people moan about the community “indoctrinating their children” because they exist in the world but they send their kids to schools where you are told god is real and everyone around you shares the same opinion. I remember my school(not 100% it was a faith school) had us singing about god and visiting the church many times a year. I was also not allowed to eat pork because my father said so but i claimed i wasnt. Religion should not be forced onto kids
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This is just fact.
Faith is negligence at the very least. They didn’t even try, they just threw it to the gods.
These schools are usually private and it’s the parents’ choice to send their kids to them. Usually ends up in receiving a better education. Test scores have proven it.
I completely agree. Religion is the cause of a lot of evil in the world, and we need less people involved in it.
It depends really. I went to a Jesuit high school and they taught religion but I never felt like they indoctrinated. Like it never felt forced onto us just like, presented as an option. My high school might be an exception though. I was and continue to be an atheist but I still appreciate my years at bellarmine. Go bells
It’s fine until it hits science and history.
Yes- religion based schools should not be a thing. They are institutions to indoctrinate children into a lifelong belief system of made up history.
That’s fair, it’s definitely weird.
The reason that faith based schools exist is because all the religions of the world know that if the child reaches adulthood without being indoctrinated they will never be indoctrinated. It is very unusual for a person who is not religious to suddenly become religious after adulthood.
It can happen, but it is very rare and usually because of some other major trauma response.
Unlike other schools which feature zero indoctrination
Private?
I mean…. We are allowing kids to Choose their sex at the age of 14, but they get forced into a religious belief…
What a world we live in!
I will never understand why it is okay to dismiss and belittle other people for their feelings and morals. Even if your feelings and morals suggest that theirs are “stupid”, how is it determined that yours are superior? How can you know that the children are “indoctrinated” and not learning about the truth? Maybe religion is actually correct and the “superior” set of morals and values. Maybe god is real, how can you know? Just let those people do whatever they want, they are not actually causing harm by making their children believe that god planted those dinosaur bones to tempt us.
Depends on the sect/religion. I’m Jewish it’s partially cultural just look at public school schedules and there’s an immediate problem with all holidays. The foods trief. And that’s not getting into the reality that Christian values are pushed on kids in American public schools all the damn time. This is a nonissue imo
Agreed. Religion is actively at odds with education as education brings critical thinking, and critical thinking leads to uncomfortable questions for the religious community that they know they can’t answer.
Just look at the chillingly effective anti intellectual effect of Islam over the past century. Used to be the scientific powerhouse of the world, but never again since.
agreed. religious schools should close. churches, too. they dont belong here anymore. religion should return to what it truly should be: private worship.
Like youre not indoctrinated in a normal school
I’m going to start off by saying I’m a Buddhist.
All schooling is indoctrination. Whether it be religious or economic. School is also a necessity. Imagine a bunch of blank adults with no education outside of what they happen to learn growing up. If you believe that Faith schooling shouldn’t be allowed then you’d also have to agree that all schooling shouldn’t be allowed. Just because someone is anti-religious doesn’t mean they have the right to tell other people what they can and cannot learn and can and cannot teach their children. If we did have the right to tell others what they couldn’t teach their children then they would have the right to tell us what we can teach our children. The fact is in America at least teaching religion is not allowed in public schools the trade-off for this is that there can be private schools that do teach it.
Religion is like drugs. Very good stuff but not for kids and must be engaged with very mindfully unless you want to go insane.
Preschool through 5th grade we went to my church for elementary school! I hated public school in comparison it wasn’t indoctrinating us if anything it was helping with our culture since it was also a Greek school
people have different beliefs than you and it’s okay 👍
lol you’re on Reddit and think this is going to be unpopular
Any parent already “indoctrinates” their child, you can’t avoid imposing your views on them. Any state school also does some degree of indoctrination, because the school programmes are designed by the governments, and the governments put in there whatever narrative is good for them. For example, when WW2 history is taught in American schools, the role of the Soviet Union in the war is greatly overstated. Of course in democratic countries it is more or less harmless but still a thing, in authoritarian countries it may be worse.
The bottom line is, if say a conservative catholic is not allowed to share their values with a child, they will likely ask a rightful question – why is a progressive liberal allowed to do it then?
Btw my wife has severe religious trauma, and I have OCD from religious upbringing, so I think children should be shielded from religion as much as possible. Just trying to play the devil’s advocate and show that the issue is not so simple.
Agreed. They only exist to brainwash kids.
Public, no, Private, yes. If parents want to send their children to private religious schools that’s their prerogative.
On a slightly unrelated note. Atheists are only second to Christian’s in how annoying they are about bringing up their beliefs, or lack thereof, constantly.
Only atheists shit on other peoples beliefs far more often.
Teaching someone something you don’t like ≠ indoctrination. Ive yet to see a single reddit atheist actually use the word properly. Are some of these schools indoctrinating? Sure, but your opinion is just peak r/atheism. The first amendment exists for a reason.
People are allowed to raise their children however they want, and that includes religious education.
Lol yeah, because public government funded schools totally aren’t indoctrinating anybody
Super contradictory. Education and fictional storytelling/indoctrination. Telling stupid stories like Noah’s Ark as if they actually occurred is ridiculous.
I think it can be up to the kid – my brother was in public school and couldn’t thrive socially at all. Our family comes from a faith background and my brother wanted to try a local private school. He thrived there and made his lifelong friends there. He appreciated how the education ties back to his faith. Leave it up to the kids.
In the US parents sent their kids due to school integration. That’s how it started. Had nothing to do with religion and more to do with not wanting your kid in school with a black kid. I’m mainly talking about Christian schools and colleges to like Liberty University. Think about Ruby Bridges. She was a 5 year old African American girl and had to be escorted safely to school. Every parent protested and pulled their kid out of school. Christian schools were a safe haven for white parents to send their kids. Sad reality
Private faith based schools are not preaching to the kids all the time. They have reading writing and arithmetic. It’s a good education opportunity for kids…but most schools have a Bible class or the faith is mixed in the curriculum. There are rules that can’t be mandated in public schools.
I for one thing you are wrong…let people make their own choice.
I was raised atheist and in a public school and converted to Islam on my own. I was not “indoctrinated” into it. Faith is a deeply personal thing. You either have it or you don’t.
I might be wrong but I think the majority of people with this opinion didn’t go to faith schools.
I went to catholic primary and secondary school in the UK. Because guess what, they were better schools.
Acceptance of religion was never forced on us. The vast vast majority of students were not religious, we just mostly came from catholic families (being religious was incredibly uncool). We had school mass twice per year and did RE (religious education) classes until year 11 (age 16).
In RE we very rarely studied any religious texts it was essentially philosophy and ethics classes. In primary school it was mostly Christian influence but by secondary school we actually learned more about other religions than our own. The classes were mostly philosophical in nature, and it was a lesson in how to write and argue and think in different ways, rather than indoctrination. We were encouraged to disagree all the time.
Frankly I got a better all round education by going to a religious school. All subjects were taught as well as 3 languages. Also I don’t know about other schools, but it was very strict, and this is something I think culturally was a real benefit to the students.