It kinda sucks the sun won’t go down till like 8:40pm in the late spring and summer with DST, But it totally sucks having literally Zero daylight to enjoy in the winter if you work standard hours. I feel bad for anyone with a 9-5.
People would have more light on their commute home, Children would have more time to play outside after school. The only downside is that it will be dark while leaving to school and work in the morning, possible making it less safe for children.
On top of that we need MORE timezones. The east coast and moving towards the west makes Zero sense why there isn’t more time zones. .
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I’m from Arizona, I don’t understand
Because rounding things off to the nearest hour makes sense.
It wouldn’t be confusing for folk if London was 4 hours and 37 minutes ahead of New York and 1 hour 18 minutes behind Amsterdam
Lol why does the sun setting at 840 suck?
Yes thank you!
Wildly miopic opinion. Have an upvote.
I don’t care either way. Just pick one and leave it at that.
Especially in winter , I’d rather the sun go down at 6 than 5. Who cares if the sun comes up at 8am instead of 7.
This is already true in some places. Saskatchewan is in effect always on daylight time. It is expressed as “Central Standard Time,” but by longitude Saskatchewan should be in the Mountain time zone.
I would love it if we kept daylight savings time year round. I would have more to do things outside during the winter months, after work.
This was tried in the 1970s and quickly became very unpopular.
Started off good, then you got too wild with it. Keep the time zones, then pick either Standard or Daylight time and keep that all year round, no switching back and forth.
If one was to be maintained then it’d have to be the one in favour of evenings.
However, I do like the system, and I think the differences are better felt in areas further north/south. In winter, the priority on short days is to get the sun to rise earlier. While in summer, when this is less of a concern, the timings are more balanced enabling a longer evening. For me its not big enough a problem to change though.
Completely agree. But since there’s always this big fight, why can’t we just go to the 30 minute mark in between instead?
You say it sucks the sun would set late then say it sucks to be not be able to enjoy the daylight if you work a 9-5.
If you work a 9-5 that’s almost 4 hours after work to enjoy the daylight.
Personally, I’ve never worked a 9-5 and couldn’t care less when it gets dark. I just hate redoing my clocks and watches. Pick one.
Sometimes it’s dark…🤷♂️
Your last sentence is rubbish. Nobody wants to figure out whether a satellite office is 1:15 ahead of the main office and try to set virtual meetings.
I like it the way it is. If you make it DST year round, the Sun won’t come up until like 8:30 am in the winter here. If we do standard time year round, the Sun will come up at 4:30 am in the summer and most people will waste that hour of daylight sleeping. Hence why we “save” the “daylight” in summer time.
Whatever version of it makes it dark late and not at 5pm sign me the fuck up.
Dark at 5pm fucking sucks.
I don’t care WHICH standard they pick, just FUCKING PICK ONE AND LEAVE IT ALONE!
don’t get me wrong, I hate DST, but making it permanent is as long as it is short when compared to getting rid of it. lets just get rid of it. that way, the definition and function of DST stays consistant when we look back on when we observed that. that’d be more sensible than confusing future students by essentially redefining it to the point where we nullify why we did it in the first place.
Agree that the sun setting at 8:40 sucks. Very happy when I get my 4 months of peace and early dark.
Standard time year round.
We tried it. It failed and was undone.
That’s exactly what they are trying to do.
Right now, we could just stop having daylight savings time. But the law says that a state must either abide by the rules of daylight savings time, or not use it at all.
They’ve been trying to get that law changed to allow a case where the clocks do not change, but daylight savings time becomes permanent.
In reality, it doesn’t matter. People don’t seem to understand that. Like money, time is made up. If we want permanent daylight savings time, don’t change the clocks to permanent daylight savings time, change the time things are open. Change working hours of business. There’s a way to accomplish what people want without even changing the law, but people are too stupid to realize that.
Am I the only person who sees the advantages of each and glad we do it?
I think generally the movement for eliminating daylight savings is to pick a time and stick with it.
Most people i know who want to get rid of it don’t understand that we’re on savings for practically 8 months and standard for 4. They think abolishing it will make the 8 months timing for all 12, not the other way around.
This is not truly an unpopular opinion. Endless whinging about setting clocks back and forth. JFC, it’s really not that big of a deal and the way that it optimizes daylight for the most people is actually kind of smart.
Hard disagree, they say it’s terrible for your circadian rhythm- part of the reason they quickly reversed the decision back when they tried it. Standard forever.
I couldn’t disagree more. We should move to the real actual time. I not only welcome the early nights of winter. I actually despise how it is light out till 9pm. Even longer if you count the twilight. I equally hate waking up for work in the morning while it’s still dark in the spring and summer at 7-8 am.
It’s frustrating and stressful not having that darkness in the evening to be able to wind down. It’s uneccesary and only serves to keep people at the bars later. I like being able to enjoy some of the night without being up past 11pm just because we set the clock to artificial time during a season the daylight is already long as fuck and have it dark in the mornings. I always welcome fall and and the clocks going back with the shorter days because I can actually have a few dark hours, maybe even a backyard fire, or even go out and have some nightlife and be able to get to bed before midnight. Daylight savings time is stupid as fuck and isn’t in tin with our natural rhythms and as a night lover, it makes finding time to enjoy the darkness and calm without staying up to stupid hours
I don’t mind the time changes, but I think they should be 2:00 AM on Saturday instead of Sunday. But if I have to choose one, it would be standard time
8:40??? In Toronto with DST the summer sun doesn’t go down until around 10.
I don’t care which one they pick, just pick one. Jesus, it triggers my Bipolar every f-ing time.
No.
STANDARD!! I bet if we kept DST through the winter y’all wouldn’t even use the daylight afterwards. Even if it got dark later it’d still be freezing cold and that tends to be a turnoff. Y’all would just be inside the warm house chilling after work the only difference being that it would be twilighting and not dark. The way it is now is better. Plus everyone would be way more tired in the mornings if the sun rose later and car accidents would skyrocket
Why does the sun being out an hour later in the winter matter when it’s still cold as fuck? I’d rather it be dark on my commute home than having the sun in my eyes.
Most people don’t understand this distinction
No one is trying to “get rid of it” and switch to standard year round. People just want it to not switch at all. Always DST/always standard… Who gives a fuck just let my body get used to one
I live in a country that doesn’t have that crap and holy hell it’s nice not having to mess up my already crap sleeping schedule yearly for some outdated BS.
More timezones? Uh, do you know how many time zones there are in the world? Hint: it’s the same as the # of hours per day. Unless you’re adding more hours there’s no way to add time zones.
To be honest, I always prefer it when I have less sunlight, not more, but I’d settle for this. Anything for not having that utterly jarring change mid year.
Nobody (or most people) actually cares which one is chosen. They’re simply saying pick one and stick to it.
This isn’t an unpopular opinion. There have been many publicized polls. Our govt would rather FA w BS that doesn’t matter than fix something that would take a single sweep of a pen. Both sides of the govt.
Whichever, just stop changing it
> It kinda sucks the sun won’t go down till like 8:40pm in the late spring and summer with DST
I agree with your title, but how does it suck to have an 8:40 pm sunset? The later sunset is why we even have DST because so theres light later in the evening for activities. Also thats not even late, try living further north with 10pm sunsets or later. Its great.
Quite a lot of the people who say they want to get rid of daylight saving time don’t mean they want to get rid of that particular time shift, they just want to stop doing the biannual shift at all.
I’ll hand wave on the “quite a lot” assertion, though I’m one of them and know I’m not alone.
Society will adapt to whatever the clock says. Just stop messing with it.
I think the real unpopular opinion is keeping what we’re doing right now, and switching between the two. Which I like, but almost no one does.
More time zones? How would that work? A day is 24 hours, each zone/ hour is about 1,000 miles in the US..
I agree completely. Daylight Wasting Time is awful.
No way…I love it when it’s completely dark by like 6:00 in the winter.
That’s what the common proposal actually is, people just say “get rid of daylights savings time” bc it makes more sense than saying “get rid of standard time”
I want it balanced. Dst, come this late fall and winter would mean no sun till between 8 and 9 am in the morning.
Yeah 100% see what you mean but standard time is better for our circadian rhythms and better sleep outweighs more sunlight. In the summer standard time sun wouldn’t set until like 6-7 PM? The 4-5 PM sundown is annoying but tbh I really don’t care if it’s dark at 7.
For me, the earlier it gets dark, the better.
I don’t care which one we stick with just stop switching back and forth
When people say they want to get rid of it, most of the time they mean get rid of changing from one to the other.
My problem with daylight savings has nothing to do with what time the sun sets or rises. It’s the fact that it switches at all. Just stay on one time or the other, stop moving it around!
I don’t care which time we picked. We just need to stop changing the time, because it’s so unhealthy.
Also, we don’t need more time zone. It’s already difficult enough administration wise to deal with the 7 timezones that we have (excluding where the territories are. I’m sorry guys, but I can’t remember. I think PR and US Virgin Islands fall under EST? Northern Mariana Islands, American Samoa, Guam, I just don’t know. I think all of you might be close to the international date line? I’m fairly confident you’re beyond Hawai’i, and Hawai’i is just a handful of timezone away from the end).
I think that’s actually what most people mean when they call for it to be abolished…they just want the time change killed and it’s actually daylight savings that they want kept (even if they don’t realize it)
I wish the times were reversed. Daylight savings in the fall and winter so the sun doesn’t set at 5:00 pm and end it in spring and summer. Or just leave it on DST.
I think yours is the more popular opinion. I prefer standard year round but most people I know want DST year round. I’ll settle for half the year so I get it my way at least some time.
No, it should get dark real early and make the normies miserable, maybe then they’ll get off their asses so we can take power from employers
I agree so much 😭😭😭😭😭. I hate how it gets dark so early in the winter. It makes me feel so down and annoyed at everything especially when driving back from work
Calif passed that exact law, keep Daylight Savings. Never enacted.
I’m 36. Even my younger staff thinks I’m in my mid 20s. It’s especially funny when I’m in my military uniform. Folks don’t expect so many stripes on someone who looks young.
The true unpopular opinion is to leave it where it is, spring forward and fall back. I’m fine with the way it is now.
At least we’ll always have UTC
Standard time gives more morning sunlight which is healthier for everyone, screw “oh I need sun after work”.
No you don’t.
Ontario passed a bill for this exact thing. We just need buy in from New York State and Quebec.
People overestimate what one hour gets you in the evening. There’s less daylight in winter, it’s a fact of life.
Standard time should be the standard, daylight savings time is a distortion intended to give us more evening daylight in the season that has the most daylight already.
I want standard time, they did year round daylight savings time in the Nixon administration and everyone hated it, let’s just adopt year round standard time this time instead of trying already failed experiments.
More time zones? Please explain in detail how exactly that would work.
I want standard time year-around, because I want that hour of sleep back!
Every single serious “get rid of daylight savings” suggestion I’ve heard of has actually been permanent DST. I hate it. I’ll never be in favour of the sun rising at nearly 10 AM just so people who get off at 5 can have the sun in their eyes on the way home but still no sun after they actually get home. You can’t fix days under 8 hours with time zone games.
Couldn’t care less which one they pick just fucking choose one and leave it
Just spring forward 30 min and leave it there. Make nobody happy
Later sunsets please. It’s useless to me at 5:30 AM.
I’m always surprised when people get so affected by the time change. My sleep duration must have a 4 hour standard deviation. Sometimes I’m getting 10 hours and sometimes I’m getting 2 hours. I can’t imagine having a sufficiently stable schedule to where I would even notice.
Disagree. The problem with year round DST vs Standard time, is in fact the incorrectly aligned time zones. They are already shifted about an hour before local noon. DST effectively shifts more than two hours from local noon.
Year round standard time for most locations in NA is actually year round DST, as the time zones are off that much.
DST should be eliminated but we should move to standard time.
I don’t think anyone cares, making DST year-round counts as getting rid of it since all we want is just this pointless clock changing bullshit to cease.
Instead of effing with the clocks, everyone needs to shift the common hours for work/school/play.
We should just have the 8760 hour clock that resets every new years
The summer one is lovely it’s the other that sucks ass. Going camping in the summer and the sunset at 9:15 is lovely
Pick one. I don’t care which. Just pick one.
I use to agree. But in the last year or so i find myself way more relaxed when the sun goes down earlier. I have a tendency to feel the need to be active when the sun is out, so when it goes down at 5-6pm, I have a lot more time at home. I love it.
It doesn’t need changing. AZ and HI are fine. Works great everywhere else.
What about people residing in famously overcast parts of the world like England? “Daylight Savings Time”, as such, doesn’t really matter when you don’t get to see the sun much anyway.
If we could just pick one and stick with it I’d be happy.
I agree so hard. I don’t understand why anyone could think differently
Instead of messing with time, just force businesses to change their schedules.
Spring hours: 8-5
Summer hours: 7-4
Fall hours: 8-5
Winter hours: 9-6
This way, the time will always stay the same, just your schedules will change.
This isn’t usually noted in the discussion, which typically centers around morning/evening preference or economics, but people who study the effect of sunlight on our health strongly advocate AGAINST daylight savings altogether.
In short, lack of sun in the morning is associated with poor health outcomes.
JCSM statement
SRBR statement
Daylight Savings FOREVER. Where I live, the sun rose this morning at 5:12. I don’t want the sun coming up (and waking the birds up) at 4:12. I do not want the sun setting at 8:08 today (sunset is 9:08).
Just use the correct time and wake up earlier.
What’s the portion of letting about the time?
The whole world should just use UTC….
🤘😎
I don’t give a fuck what we do. Pick a time and stick with it. Stop fucking with my sleep.
I don’t actually know what daylight savings time is, if it’s the summer one or the winter one. But do I know the transition in the spring is worse than the feel of the fall one. So fuck the transition.