So the situation was I was leaving a restaurant walking back to the car with my boy, and some crazy homeless guy was walking in my direction high and tweaking.
He yelled “get the fuck out of my way” and I was moving to the side and he spartan kicked me by my ribs.
Wasn’t a clean kick so it didn’t hurt at all and I stayed on my feet. I’ve been hit harder in soccer and boxing in that area, but it was shocking.
By the time I processed it, he was walking away. I didn’t do anything cause it didn’t really ignite any crazy anger in me it was more like “wtf”. Kinda just kept walking to my car
Part of me now thinks I should have kicked his ass, but would it have been worth it?
What would you guys have done? Lemme know.
It kinda took me a minute to process
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That fight was not worth the rabies shot afterwards. Homeless people are fucked in the head. You did the right thing.
Now if you want to learn to believe in yourself more and become 100% more confident then that we can work on.
Join a competitive BJJ gym at the very least. Do MMA for a few years and learn to box and kickbox.
Learn your power.
You are not seriously hurt, so that is good. The problem is there isn’t much you CAN do. You wont benefit to find him and exact revenge. You cannot sue him civilly because he is judgemental proof (no money), and law enforcement doesn’t care because he is a homeless guy with nothing to lose.
It’s not worth it. In street fighting, the person with the least to lose wins. If you have a family and people who care about you, you’re at a disadvantaged against a homeless crazy person with nothing to lose.
If “my boy” is your kid, then you did good just leaving it at that.
If “my boy” was your homie, I’m kinda baffled y’all did Woop his ass.
I would’ve said “huh” and went on about my day. Beating him up doesn’t really achieve anything.
First swing is free, second swing, they wouldn’t like the next 2-3 minutes.
If theres anything MMA taught me, self defense is making sure YOU stay safe(not them), and risk assessment of the potential danger.
I wouldn’t have done anything because with tweakers you never know what their true power level is. Maybe you could have pepper sprayed him, maybe you could have curb stomped him, or maybe doing those things would have just made him angry and resulted in a retribution 10x worse than anything you could have done to him. Trying to fight tweakers is a really bad idea, you could easily get stabbed, shot, or have some disease ridden parasite spitting his blood directly down your throat.
I don’t know why we as a society have decided that these people should be allowed to live on the streets. It is really quite disgusting.
I feel like whooping him would have just been a pure ego move. In reality a crazy person did something crazy, you have nothing to gain by beating him up and a lot to lose.
I would have used it as an opportunity to warn my kids about the dangers of drugs and alcohol and undiagnosed mental illnesses.
One time I was out with friends and homeless person asked us if we had drugs. We said no and the homeless person said in a mocking way “you are good kids, stay in school.” As we walked away he threw a fork at us, we were like wtf. More perplexed than angry.
When I got home I was like man I should have kicked that guys ass but then what? We could have killed that person, obviously they weren’t right in the head. Is it really worth going to jail or paying legal fees because a homeless guy kicked you and it didn’t even hurt?
You won by walking away, who knows what that guy was on.
Being the bigger (saner) man is walking on just as you did. Nothing wrong with that.
If you’d gone back, you might have been able to beat his ass or maybe he’s so effing high he beats yours? Maybe you get arrested? Maybe you accidentally kill him? Walking on was the best decision.
If he’d stayed, or pressed the attack, defend yourself all day. But since he didn’t, just jogging on was the right move.
Homeless people have nothing to lose. Do not fuck with them. They will fight dirty and they will not stop like a regular human until your life is wrecked as bad as theirs. You 100% did the right thing.
Best not to fight people unless you have to defend your life or someone else’s. Who knows if he has a knife in his pocket or something? You did fine. One wound can be life changing.
It’s rarely worth fighting and this isn’t a fighting situation. Walk away and be the bigger pearson. You weren’t hurt or spit on or anything like that so I’d say you did the mature thing. Part of being a man is knowing when the juice isn’t worth the squeeze
Nobody expects to be randomly attacked on the street by a vagabond so your response is reasonable. That dude loses nothing gains nothing if you smack him in the mouth, probably wouldn’t even remember it after he comes down. Worst case scenario he feels on the ground and starts seizing like some asshole without his medication
I’m always scared of homeless people. Not because they can fight.
Because the disease they carry. Last thing you want is aids or Hep C because you beat a homeless up
I hate ALL homeless people
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No one want’s Homeless Cooties, Shots and Prep.
You did the right thing….
On advice of my council and the possibility of a strike against my account, I plead the fifth.
I got spartan kicked in the ribs but I’m used to it.
Fuck off with your fake post
I would have laughed about it in my car and told the story at work.
I would have done the same.
I’ll keep it moving. If he attacks me again, I’m gonna defend myself.
How would it have looked for your boy (assuming that’s your son) if you’d have beaten the homeless guy? Would it have put him in danger too? Walking away from crazy was the right thing to do, what would you have actually achieved beating someone that has nothing already.
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You should have been more aware, honestly. Mother fucker walks at me like that, I’m eye balling the fuckout of him to make sure that doesn’t happen. You don’t take your eyes off crazy people. Living in Albuquerque, it’s keep your head on a swivel while enjoying life.
Walk away. Call the police and give your best description.
I would not follow the guy on foot. If my car is close I might get inside my car and see where he is going. And keep police informed along the way. In my state if you are following a criminal and updating 911 on the phone you can talk and drive. Use discretion.
I watched a person verbally assault someone. Then he tried to break into the car, and kicked it. Since I was not the one involved, I snapped discrete photos and called 911. Police arrived in a minute.
I showed my photos and gave them my business card. They knew the guy by name and approached him. I left. They handcuffed him and stood by the car, and it looked like they found damage. By this time I was at a distance and mostly out of they guy’s view. A second car arrived and he was taken away.
Later that day I got an email from the officer asking if I would testify, and could I email the photos. I sent the photos. An hour later they said they showed the photos and he confessed to the verbal assault and the damage to the car.
If I was the person he yelled at, he noticed me. And I would still be a target. Time to put some distance between.
>Part of me now thinks I should have kicked his ass, but would it have been worth it?
nothing happened to you from his weak ass spartan wtf kick. it definetly wouldnt been worth to fight him.
ofc something like this can nag on a mans pride, cause you didnt act when you usually should, but in this case id say you did the absolute right thing. now all you got is a fictional “what if” situation instead of some unseen bullshit. worth keeping your peace.
You did the right thing.
You should never fight crazy.
People who are high are very unpredictable and have weird pain thresholds.
Never mind the potential report card of stds and other diseases.
Nothing to gain so no need to raise your hands
If you can tank the kick, kick the opposite leg knee out. Dont punch homeless people in the face unless you want an infection in your knuckles or worse.
The only way to win a fight with a homeless dude is to avoid it all costs – any outcome is bad
You did the right thing it didn’t hurt or cause you to flip out so keep it moving . Homeless dude could have a knife or razor who knows not worth it
Don’t fight homeless people. The only outcome is you losing.
Do nothing. Go have a shower.
You took the high road. Good on you. The guy that attacked you is in clear need of mental health intervention. That’s not your fight though. You did the right thing.
Fuck that dude. He’s not worth your time bro. If he would’ve kept on, absolutely drop his ass. But that shit is just not worth it. His life is already shitty enough. I’ve been in similar situations and once I had to choke a homeless dude out who had a swastika tattoo and was harassing my homegirl. The cops came and thanked me bc he was such a nuisance lmao. That was different tho. Your situation doesn’t call for retaliation imo
Would it be satisfying to kick him back a few times? 100%, not every homeless person is a saint despite having nothing.
Is it something that’s gunna bother you in a month? Nah, you could probably bring it up as a funny potential regret later with your bois.
These guys always have shanks on them. Or you could break your skin punching them in the mouth, and catch an uncurable disease. Always best to avert your eyes and give them a wide berth.
If it didn’t land proper and he was sloppy and I knew I’d easily beat his ass I’d probably just laugh at him and talk some 💩 make him look stupid and weak (if I was just with my boy)….. the situation changes if I’m with someone I feel the need to defend/protect such as a loved one like a female or a family member or a homie that can’t fight and doesn’t like confrontation, in that case I would have immediately took off on him, although in that case I would have already been on my guard and ready before he got close amd had my loved ones behind me and I would be ready and willing to throw first if need be….
Don’t sweat the small stuff homie, your dwelling on some 💩 that doesn’t even matter. I would have done the same as you if it was just me n my boy, why create a problem if u know u can whoop his as and he didn’t even hurt u or ur boy? No need to possibly go to jail or get sued or accidentally kill somebody over something so small n petty my man…. Stay safe out there… only fight if u have to. What would u have gained out of beating him up? Validation for your ego??? That ain’t worth jail, getting sued, possibly getting a disease such as hiv or hepatitis c… u did the right thing, now don’t think about it anymore. Signed somebody who’s been to federal prison for 3 years and been in situations like that when I was in my late teens early twenties where I wanted to do what you did but my ego wouldn’t let me.
I don’t know what state you’re in, but I’m in California, and I served on jury duty earlier in the year for a case involving a homeless man who harassed a man out walking his dog.
The homeless man verbally assaulted him and threatened to stab him.
The man walking the dog, of course, was frightened and ran away and called the police. The police found the homeless man charged him for making threats etc.
It was unanimous. We found him guilty. We sent him to the gallows. So pick up that phone when somebody does that and report it. Don’t assume nothing will happen, because I just told you I was on a jury where somebody did that and something was done about it.
I would never fight a homeless person since I don’t want homeless person germs all over me.
Why would you attack him after he walked away? You file a police report or you go home. That’s it.
Why are you sitting around in your house thinking about beating up a crazy guy? He kicked you, yeah that’s not okay. But he walked away, and it didn’t even hurt. I understand , you feel like you lost control, you were attacked, that is not nothing. So I don’t want to seem like I am writing that off. But you don’t get you power back by attacking someone guy. When you kid is with you. That is putting him in danger . Even if you were in the right, seeing their dad beat up a homeless person even one who started it can be traumatizing. You don’t want that image stuck in their head. They’ll remember that way longer than you remember the kick
He struck you unprovoked, that’s battery, If he left I’d follow and attempt to contact law enforcement and allow them to handle it. Imagine if he kicked you, you let him walk away without contacting someone and he kicked a pregnant woman around the corner. That wouldn’t sit with me well.
Honestly you probably dodged a bullet, he’s clearly not okay in the head and violent crazy people do violent crazy things. I absolutely would have called the cops though and gave a description, he needs to be evaluated and he could do worse to someone else.
This is going to get down voted to fuck because its savage but its real:
Fuck fighting a scruffy old homeless person, imagine grappling with them and their dirty face pushed up against yours, rancid breath allover you and skin that hasn’t been washed for years, probably contract a disease hugging one let alone fucking grappling all sweaty like.
Life is currently kicking his ass already. I think you did the right thing. But sorry you had to deal with that. Not a guy though, sorry.
You did the right thing, esp with your son present. Or you could have gone after him, have that guy pull a knife on you and then your son gets to watch you being stabbed. That would have been a horrible last memory of his father alive for him to carry with him the rest of his life.
You box and you couldn’t process that? Seems like some
100% did the right thing by walking away. As much as it should’ve angered you it isnt worth the potential disease exposure and/or injury.
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I wouldn’t touch a homeless person who knows what diseases they are carrying, especially if they are potentially drug users. If you punch them and break your skin, you could end up with hepatitis.
Also if they’re on something they might have a weapon and they wont act reasonable like a normal person. Even if you could kick his ass, what happens if he cuts you with a dirty knife? What happens if you get the knife off him and he ends up dead? Is it worth it?
At the end of the day you got on with your life and he’s still rotting on the street hitting a crack pipe. You won.
Picking your fights is a sign of maturity, and you’ve got a hell of a lot more to lose than he did.
You did right
Nobody would have blamed you if you cracked him one. Should have at least called the cops and filed a report. I guarantee you officers policing the area have probably run across him before.
Yes it’s worth it to teach an idiot it’s not safe to do that. What if the next person he comes across isn’t as capable as you?
This advice comes from almost a decade of consistently dealing with extremely violent homeless. They are really bad where I live, and you genuinely need to be very careful around them, which will 100% affect how I write this, so take it with a grain of salt.
All the people here talking about karate or mma are guys who have likely never had to actually defend against a drugged out homeless guy. He already hit you and was walking away, you had nothing to gain by going back near him. For situations like this, make your way to your car as fast as possible and call the police. If you notice him walking towards you and you have enough space, try to get away from him as much as possible.
Flat out, if this happens even somewhat often for you, you should look into getting a firearm (if you’re able to own one respectfully/own one at all). If worst comes to worst and he attempts to seriously harm you (knife, gun, etc.) you need to be able to defend yourself. One of my good buddies got sent to the hospital because some homeless guy decided to stab the shit out of him and he wasn’t able to end the threat.
A mature man fights when they are physically threatened.
An immature child fights when their ego is threatened.
The dude was walking away. There was no longer a physical threat. Why would you fight then?
If he had kept coming I would have shot him and likely killed him. If he’s walking away I do exactly what you did and let it go.
Once he’s moving on he’s not a threat to you or your boy so the goal should be to get yourself out of there and use that as a teachable moment for your kid to make sure he understands why we have to control ourselves even when its tempting to give in to an angry impulse. Depending on how young he is there are likely a lot of voices telling him how badass real men are and how they wouldn’t take that shit. Best to clamp down on that early before it takes root and festers.
All that said, I’m glad everyone is more or less okay and that the situation didn’t escalate. It takes a lot of self control to get hit like that and not lose your head. Well done.
Your boy as in your son? Best not to engage in that type of behavior, set a good example on how to deal with or overcome negative emotions.
How do you know he was homeless, and not just crazy?
The last thing you want to do is punch a homeless person in the mouth. If his teeth breaks skin on your first you’re likely to get some nasty infection
You let yourself get kicked in the ribs? kicks are a vulnerable move.
It was the best decision you have ever made. There are too many incidents of where a guy killed somebody with one punch. That’s all it takes to ruin your life.
I’d give him a home.
Befriend him.
Invite him to all the family gatherings.
Make him a godfather of my children.
Schedule daily chess matches just to shoot the shit.
Learn his deepest fears and darkest secrets.
Help him with therapy and recovery.
EVERY DAY PUT HIS TOILET PAPER ROLL FLAP SIDE AGAINST THE WALL.
BURRRRNNNNNNNN!!!!! AHAHHSHAHAHAHAHhhhHH!!!!!!!
I avoid shitty neighbourhoods and don’t go out in the evenings. Too many junkies and shitheads out and about.
Definitely not worth it, there’s plenty of stories of homeless people randomly stabbing and killing people. Especially being with your kid, just not worth whatever psycho unpredictable thing could’ve come next.
You had nothing to gain by ” kicking his ass”
That is supposed to be the “proper” response of a “real man”
But look at possible scenarios.
You knock him out. You have proved what? To whom?
You knock him out, and he hits his head on the curb and dies. You get arrested, eventually you get released, but not until you have spent your life savings on lawyers fees.
He is all cranked up on meth and mental illness, and seriously injures or even kills you. Have you seen some of the videos of guys on drugs having 6 cops trying to restrain them, and not succeeding?
You made the right decision.
A large number of homeless folks are also mentally unsound. They would not learn their lesson.
U did the right thing bro. Period!
Problem is you don’t know how crazy he is. And he’s got an iron jaw you might not knock him out easy.
Definitely not worth a fight. Those junkies share needles l, and even if you won there is a chance you’d still walk away losing by catching something from him.
Only one kick to you and then he kept moving away, without hurting your son. I would have brushed it off just like you did. It’s not worth catching a case, getting stabbed, or contracting something after contacting his biofluids.
You COULD report the man for assault charges but I just say let him be, you did the right thing there. Guy has probably been through a lot and reporting him would probably make things worse for him and make you look like an ass
I tell my wife to go another way with my kid.
I don’t want to fight and I don’t want my kid to see me fight. Scares her enough when I raise my voice to a tweaker but she understands the reason.
But things are going to happen.
Sorry it happened to you brother, there isn’t a right answer and getting shocked by a sucker punch/kick is definitely a “wtf just happened” moment.
Id give him a reason to be on those opioids
I mean I would have fucked him up. I don’t put my hands on anyone, so I’m not gonna accept anyone doing so to me without protecting myself. But it’s over and everyone is ok so no need to dwell on it at this point. And who knows for sure what the outcome could have been if things escalated further. Who knows bro you could have got stabbed in front of your son. Just let it go… Or if you really feel some type of way go back to that area and get your get back 😂. Just be prepared for what may come behind it
Not worth the possibility of a knife between the ribs (or a gunshot). In no situation a fight is the best action to take. Always try to defuse the situation or try to walk/run away. Only when that doesn’t work and you fear for your life you should resort to violence. First lesson I was taught during my time in BJJ class and it has worked for me so far.
It’s not worth it. Most homeless people don’t have security, and constantly lives in fear. So you don’t know if he has a knife with him, and has nothing to lose. Good call on walking away, especially you had your boy and a family man, no need to risk it over a small infringement.
Dude, the best way to win a fight is to walk away from it. You did go. The threat was gone. Moreover if you chased after him it would no longer have been self defense.
First of all i am so sorry that happened to you….No one deserves that…..homeless or not, assault is assault……I had probably be in shock but honestly…… Report it……Protecting yourself isn’t heartless it’s necessary…..