Male here: Men that claim women over 30 years of age are approaching “the wall” my criticism is that they are being sexist hypocrites because men age too. People like Fran Drescher (recently on front page) are still snacks. Kim Kardashian, still a snack. Angela Bassett. Snack. Exercise and diet becomes more necessary as you age and are signs of maturity, self-care and awareness. Men getting in their 30s, claiming that women who just reached the legal drinking age have the qualities to be a supportive partner are scared of not meeting the standards of their peers and that’s why a virgin or someone born yesterday is safe for them.
What criticism of other members of your sex do you have that will get you labeled a pick-me or white knight?
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So you’re using the top .1% of women celebrities as your example? What about average Sally from down the street who doesn’t have access to the chefs and the best gyms and surgeons that money can buy?
Men claiming that “all men check out other women”
No we don’t. Just because your eyes have wanderlust, doesn’t mean mine do. There do exist men who reserve sexualization for just their partner
I find that a lot of men lack the self control and pride to not be controlled by their sex drive, or let women control them by it, and I find it slightly disgusting.
unless you win the genetic lottery or are a multi-millionaire celebrity with access to teams of nutritionists, makeup artists, and plastic surgeons, you’re going to look worse when you age. Nearly everyone’s appearance peaks in their early-mid 20’s.
Aging is more noticeable on women because more of them are actually attractive and most men look like shit to begin with.
Men should be feminists. Feminism is the belief that men and women should be treated equally in the work and politics. The other stuff attached to feminism is debatable, but not necessary to be a feminist.
On the flip side men and women should also support equality for men. Idk what the reverse word would be. (A masculinist?). There are plenty of equality issues men face that should be addressed.
32M here. I very much find the hypocrisy of men who both do not care about a woman’s safety from men but ALSO get upset when women take measures to protect themselves revolting.
It’s a pain trying to explain it to them. Women, girls talking about being catcalled and approached by grown men since they were 12. How scary it is that men will lie, get belligerent, shame them, or get violent if things don’t go their way. All for the sake of having her body and then leaving. And women don’t know which men are genuine and safe v.s. which are liars who can’t be trusted to be alone with.
And yes, there are women who do this sort of thing with men too. I’ve experienced it myself. But the last thing anyone wants to hear who has dealt with that is some dismissive comment disregarding what they’ve been through. But since so many men flat out don’t care and don’t even try to understand it from the other perspective, women instead have to have their own means of screening men and being on guard. Because if they’re wrong, then the consequences can be worse then death.
I could go on and on about this. But yeah, that really frustrates me
I think people just need to sit down and look the rest as a human.
That’s true also with modern medicine most women can safely have kids until they are like 40, also a lot of women in their 30s are hotter than a lot of women in their 20s in fact I don’t think they are even less attractive on average
So many men – and even women I’ve talked to in my area/have as friends – believe there needs to be a “head” of a household (the man). Heck even my sister who I feel is the most “women power” in my life said that. And that’s just ridiculous. Marriage is a partnership. Raising kids is a partnership. What is this “one head of the house” bullshit nonsense?! Pisses me off.
I wish women took red flags more seriously in their relationships and that they were a lot less coddling.
This is probably gonna get me in some shit but how money motivated a lot of women are bothers me. A date isn’t a job interview. The only women I know my age that are dating older men are like that. They joke about getting his money after he dies and it’s like, well he has 3 kids already with his ex who’s just a few years older than you. You’re probably not getting anything.
MEN know women who are 30+ aren’t less hot, that’s milf territory buddy. And one for the women (from my experience as a woman): get your friends out of your relationships. You do not need to tell your “besties” every little thing going on with your man so they can chant “dump him!” Because they never liked him from the start.
That referring to women as “snacks” is nauseating.
I resent the expectation that, as a woman, I should label myself a “girl’s girl.” It’s a shallow and oversimplified view of morality that reduces the responsibility to help others to nothing more than shared gender. Regardless of its original intent, it’s become a female version of “bros before hos,” which I also find trashy and reductive. I can still demonstrate solidarity with other women and offer help without needing to prioritize based on gender.
Women blame things on society that are completely self-inflicted. Marrying the wrong guy, because “they were pushed to settle down”, having to put on loads of make up, because “society expects them to be pretty”, wearing gigantic heels that makes their feet hurt, etc. I know just as many women who do none of this and you can guess how much pushback they’re getting. None. These issues are 80% internalized and 20% from celebrity social media. But in real life no one cares.
The male loneliness crisis. I believe this is a real crisis but my hot take is that it is a crisis of men’s own making.
I’m a white guy and white men are the biggest whiners and cry babies I know.
I don’t know what you mean, but I do think that men in general should be paying women a lot less attention than what they are doing, OF shouldn’t exist for example, there should not be a platform like that, women posting pictures online should not be noticed or commented on by any man, even in social situations, women should get a lot less compliments than they do.
What men as a group are doing is to present itself as easily manipulated, and easily controlled and put down, men try to hard to satisfy the artificially over inflated egos of women in general and if we are ever to be seen as lovable people to them again, all of us men must restrain ourselves from doing all of these things.
So that men in general gain back the respect that they have lost by doing all of these things, to much, to often.
Women don’t even seem to care anymore about the compliments that men give, there are to many, they take it for granted and take men for granted, that we men will always, always be there for what lays between their legs, when in reality it lasts between just five minutes to half an hour and it’s all done and dusted, it should not be thought of as being that great, or so important that men will literally become so low if they don’t get it that they commit suicide.
All men should be taught from when they are young that women are not necessary in their lives, and that men should not need them in their lives in order to be happy, and instead taught how to live a happy life without them, and to focus on other things, all lust for women should stop and direct criticism should begin again.
Plus they are ignoring women reach sexual peak in their 40s. It was amazing.
im a woman. apparently I’m a pick me for saying that men can get tricked into pregnancy, too.
doesn’t matter what situation I bring up, apparently it’s not real at all.
While the idea that men think about sex like every 7 seconds or something is absolutely ridiculous I do see there are some men out there that are basically addicted to the concept of sex despite rarely if ever actually receiving it and these men really need therapy and a support system
It’s sad because these men often don’t even understand that most other men don’t think like them
“Oh I literally can’t be friends with a woman because I just immediately fantasize about having sex with her which is why I won’t let men be friends with my girlfriend”
Dude that’s mostly a you problem because you’ve over glorified the concept of sex since you were like 4 years old to be this like godly end all be all of experiences, Most normal sane adult men are perfectly capable of being friends with a woman without wanting to be in her pants
As a male, I can’t believe there are some of us that call people a “snack” in 2025 or really ever. I’m sure you were a YOLOer back in the day.
I’m a guy. Don’t get offended if some random woman on the street avoids you or starts walking faster. Even if most guys are “safe”, the likelihood of being attacked, assaulted, killed, etc. is not zero. Don’t blame them for taking safety measures. Nobody wants to roll the dice on that
too many women relinquish their agency as adults, then blame it on society. they will be the victim again and again and again, always blaming it on everyone else, and utterly failing to look inward and realize they are in fact responsible for their own choices.
such women tend to be the loudest about men being ontologically evil, and will go online and post incessantly about their ain’t-shit-man, get validation on how awful he is and how he doesn’t deserve her, and proceed to do absolutely nothing about it.
61F. Women who are as greedy and opportunistic as men are not admirable. Arrogance in a woman is as ugly as in a man
Men have to leave women the fuck alone at the gym. Shes not there to talk and she doesn’t need help.
33M – Sexist jokes just aren’t funny. I get flak whenever I call it out, but man, making inappropriate jokes about women just ain’t it.
Think you’re overselling the idea that holding non shit opinions makes someone a white knight or whatever that means.
I work with children, in a team of about 7 women and me. When interacting parents I frequently feel that men let the side down. I’m talking Dad’s who say oh I don’t know when they nap, I don’t know what they’re allergic too, I don’t know how often they need a bottle…. Always followed by the famous phrase: ask Mum.
I’m frequently get annoyed because, dude, that’s your child. You should know. Recently I had one Dad on his second child, couldn’t give us any routine details. Pathetic.
I hear about women that get turned off when their man is vulnerable, or cries.
I can only date men that are able to be truly vulnerable with me. And it’s not a turn off at all. I don’t see masculinity in that way.
25M here. Tbh when I think about men my age (+-3), I feel a combination of pity and disdain. Whether its situations like streamers having to refute “boyfriend allegations” (what??), or I think about Onlyfans enjoyers sexting with discord mods. I feel a sense of pity but I also feel a lot of anger towards these sorts of men, who have given up, will do nothing for themselves, have resigned themselves to a digital, loveless life. Idk if that makes me a white knight, necessarily. But I do think a lot of the social baggage that men in my age group carry is largely self-inflicted by shit like this.
If people got all in my business when I’m just trying to do a simple task the way men do with random women, it would drive me up a fucking wall. No I don’t want to know how you would put a canoe on top of my fucking car.
nothing universally, tbh. most people are a product of their entire circumstance, and their sex is only one small part of that. any statement that could be made about a sex class can also just be made about the specific people who engage in the behavior. and it saves the trouble of people getting their feelings hurt on account of “hey, that’s a fraction of my identity you’re talkin about!! >:(“
34 W. Two things. First, that in my experience many women have unspoken expectations of the people around them. When men in their lives don’t meet those expectations they get unfairly angry/upset/offended/frustrated/annoyed/etc. I do think men sometimes feel singled out by this behavior but I’m here to attest that women who do this also do it to the other women in their lives. Failing to meet unspoken expectations has cost me friendships and positive familial relationships.
The second thing is that many women tend to task men with things aligned with gender roles without trying their best to take care of the thing on their own first. If something goes wrong with my car, my plumbing, an appliance, etc I try to fix it on my own. If I have to ask a man to help me with it I literally mean “help me” not “do it for me.” I want to learn how to do it on my own and most of the time if it’s something I can’t figure out it turns out the guy I ask to help doesn’t know how to do it either. We figure it out together because two heads are better than one and I’m the one who actually needs the help, they are doing me a favor even just trying.
Your point is flawed. “The wall” refers to childbearing ability probably. Women age out of being able to have kids. Men don’t. I agree with you otherwise.
Men are pigs, they just are. I get so tired of meeting guys and when you get close enough and they think they can tell you shit? Alot of them will just tell you every way they bend their girl backwards. Makes it very uncomfortable to actually meet their partner knowing what shes like in bed.
I can’t believe i get shit from my friends who hook up with alot of women, simply because I dont tell them what my sex life is like with my girlfriend. And some of them just don’t ever shut up about sex.
I am a woman and I cannot stand it when women let fashion trends dictate their clothing choices. If you see a trend and think it looks cool, go ahead and wear it, that’s not an issue. But when women say “you can’t wear that because it’s not in fashion anymore” or just blindly follow every trend… I just want to say, stop being a pawn! Stop letting people tell you what to wear and what to buy! And if someone is practical enough to wear the same clothes for 10 years, or independent enough to wear something that is not ‘on trend’, that’s something I respect a lot more than acting like a doll that people pick out clothes for.
The men that say that unless you’re tall, fit, have a full head of hair, good jawline, are successful etc it’s impossible to get a girlfriend. Of course pretty and successful people will find dating easier, and if you’re extremely ugly dating is very hard, but the amount of bald, short,obese or broke men that I’ve seen find a girlfriend has shown me that it’s not impossible if you apply yourself instead of crying and blaming women online.
31F here. A lot of women really dehumanize men. It. doesn’t look the same but it’s like for example: a man loves his pet lizard. Tons of women will say it’s weird or gay and shame him for caring about the creature, or expect to be the only thing he cares about. It’s sad how men aren’t allowed to be themselves.
45F. If women would stop overthinking and overanalyzing EVERY DAMN THING, their lives would be much better.
You wanna ask that guy out? Do it. So what if he says no, now you know and can stop obsessing.
One more, but this is true for all genders/types: Stop giving AF about what complete strangers think about you and your life. It ain’t theirs, it’s yours. You do you, boo. Don’t live for someone else, or else you’ll be on your deathbed thinking “I should have had that second piece of cake.”
And nobody wanna be craving cake on their deathbed. #facts
That women are safer with other women, or that women don’t pose a threat to men or other women. It’s rare, but it does happen and female abusers need to be taken as seriously as male abusers.
30 M. When men complain about how much harder it is to date as a man since we have to do this and that and this but all women have to do is just stand there, they’re only thinking about the attractive women. There is an entire class of women who never get a second look from a man and men don’t consider them part of the equation. If you think about it like that, as a group, men have it easier than women in the dating scene and not the other way around because men can always adapt their personalities to attract women, women don’t have that option.
Over 30 is getting into middle aged battle ax territory.
Anything a man you are not engaged to, in a relationship with or married to,gives you as a gift is purely out of the goodness of his heart and not something you’re entitled to.
Guy here. Guys forcing themselves into a relationship with a person they don’t care about because all their buddies have girlfriends or wives and they don’t want to be that thirdwheel friend. Getting into relationships with woman they are indifferent about, and will inevitably eventually be irritated by and dislike just to not be the romantic failure. I’ve heard so many men that hated their wives amd ask myself, how many of them just got with them to not be the lonely loser of the friendgroup? Sad that social status is given to a man with a forced relationship. And she’s just taken for a ride that might waste years or decades of her life. Absolutely shit behavior that i’ve seen in my family and in other men. Fuck that. Love her or leave her, especially before you have any real ties to her.
I have one but it applies to both genders. I think people should dress more modestly at the gym.
I appreciate all the men obsessed with younger women. Means more attractive and sane age appropriate women for me!
If you want to be the head of the family and have a traditional wife yadda yadda, you HAVE to make that kind of money. Not just that she doesn’t work, but the kids college is paid for, vacations are frequent, and any surprise expense is covered.
If you don’t make that kind of money, you ain’t a traditional husband and your opinion on what your wife should and shouldn’t do is not only foolish, but impossible.
If you do, then it’s your obligation to use that money for that purpose first before any personal hobbies. You’re asking someone to be dependent on you, you need to pay that fee. If you can meet all these criteria, then I think it’s fine to have that discussion with potential partners.
Women are human beings with all the same flaws as men, all the same hopes and desires.
Women are people. We’re not “snacks” or other objects. While some women always want to be considered sexually desirable, believe it or not most of us understand that’s not realistic and don’t want or expect that kind of attention, especially after a certain age.
We’re just people, guys.
Some women are uniquely horrible at taking romantic/sexual rejection. They’ve been raised with messages that their value is in their beauty, sexual desirability, their appeal as romantic partners, etc.
In their worldview, men are constant horndogs and women are the gatekeepers withholding access to themselves (the prize). So when a man declines to take things further romantically or sexually, some women absolutely melt down, lash out, etc. because it feels like an existential threat to their value as a person.
Makes me sad. Consent goes both ways, and men’s comfort matters too.
Men who call women females. BLECH. You sound like one of those sexist aliens from startrek. It sounds like you think theyre another species all together. It sounds dehumanizing. How hard is it to say Women? Ladies? Chicks? I know chick isn’t the pinnacle of respectful but its a hell of a lot better imo than talking about them like they’re specimens. Also either wipe the fucking toilet seat when youre done or sit down, i promise you your dick isnt gonna fall off and you wont be less of a man for being clean and respectful of shared spaces.
Women, on average, are just better people than most men. They’re nicer, more empathetic, better listeners, often better educated, more generous with their time and money. Also they’re mostly better looking and better in bed than most men(I’ve never actually slept with a man). I think if men would take the opportunity to see women as complete people, they would find real role models.
Men would have an easier time dating if they didn’t put so much emphasis on sex and expect women to put out by the third date. Additionally – they can’t complain about women with high body counts being “low value” whilst also creating a dating pool that puts pressure on women to have sex early to keep interest.
Oh I have a few but I’d need a lot more time to go into it. Most of them I have some understanding, but I think it’s taken too far.
I think the “make a chore chart (or a list)” thing is overly demonized, however I understand how. Learning to manage a house is a skill that has to be learned, a chore chart can be a good place to start.
Women need to stop expecting men to jeopardize themselves indiscriminately. Men need to approach (but also know when they aren’t wanted). Men need to pay (but better not expect anything in return). Men need to save and protect and provide even if it’s at the expense of their own sanity or health. It’s absolutely bonkers to me that there are women who think men should be a bottomless well of support and service just cuz they have an appendage between their legs.
Your point still stands but I do fear that your example of women who are “snacks” look that way as a result of cosmetic procedures, not just diet and exercise. Not that botox, implants, etc are things we should be stigmatizing, but attributing those women’s looks to something you can achieve through regiment and discipline is unhelpful.
As a woman, I hate that it is essentially expected that we wear makeup.
I also hate when women won’t give a guy a chance because he’s short.
Big age gaps are gross before the second half of your life.
Oh your girl comes home and is non-stop blabbing about innane bullshit at work?
Fucking sit down and listen to her.
.feeling insecure about your partner having a friend they used to date (just that on it’s own. Like they act fully as friends should and some guys still act like it’s a disrespect)
.single mother’s being considered undateable.
.caring about a body count but still very much willing to add to it/not caring about your own is BS. If you’re going to be conservative about sex don’t be a hypocrite.
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Women who view coffee dates, walks, or low key dates as “low effort.”
To each their own, but I don’t want to be trapped at a table waiting for food with someone I don’t even know. I also don’t want to throw axes or be locked into any kind of activity it would be awkward to leave.
Coffee is perfect for a first meet up because it’s low pressure, public, inexpensive, and, perhaps most importantly, extremely easy to extend or cut short, depending on how things are going. The number of men who have tried to touch or kiss me after, so far, is zero so it also has that going for it.
I truly dislike how normalized being over sexual has become and the culture to hook up first, ask questions later.
It’s truly made relationships and connections so much more difficult as many people start right off the bat with such intensity only to get bored and lose interest in a few months.
So many! Man, btw.
We complain about how isolated we are, but I find most other men in my life are neither very good at communicating emotional issues nor especially good at receiving them.
Just how pronounced differences between sexes are. I’m not delusional. There are some that occur at a biological level, but I don’t think it’s so much that women can’t, for example, make good leaders. “Women are too emotional to lead” is as ridiculous a claim as “men are solely to blame for war”. Of course, this goes as much for negative sexism as it does for positives. Given identical opportunities and exempt of social pressures in any direction, I don’t think men are any more “visual” than women. Women aren’t all sugar, spice, and everything nice either. I’ve known more than a few to be cruel, antagonistic, and vindictive.
How much we casually play into sexist stereotypes about ourselves. Under just about any “what do men look for in a woman” posts, most of the responses are “hot and fuck gud”. I need way more than that in more departments in a life partner.
PEOPLE HAVE PREFERENCES! Most of the girls I’ve been interested in were pretty much never stick thin. It’s not “white knighting” to say you like girls with a healthy amount of weight too.
Criticism of other members of my sex: women like to pretend that they are safe places for their bfs/husbands, but so many aren’t. I would venture to say most. A guy breaking down and crying scares the shit out of them and absolutely changes how she sees them and it’s wild.
Even when women go “no! We love it!” They’re literally dismissing the guys that just opened up about not feeling like they can be vulnerable, it’s wildly emotionally unintelligent.
Sydney Sweeney pisses me tf off, wdym people online started calling you ugly so now your crying about on social media, girl stand tf up grow a backbone it’s embarrassing. She gives me really pick me behavior
Lots of women feel way too comfortable talking about other people while avoiding conflict and direct communication of their frustrations simultaneously. As a result I naturally gravitate towards men. I feel less judged and less like any issues will escalate to shit talking.