How can MAGA logically accept that Trump won in 2024 with no voting issues but lost in 2020?

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Besides the obvious “they are a cult” if you are MAGA minded you have to have thought about this at least once. The fact is, Trump who was in power lost in 2020, yet to them Biden cheated. Yet once he had full control of the federal government he allowed himself and his entire party to lose at the federal level in 2024?

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    Besides the obvious “they are a cult” if you are MAGA minded you have to have thought about this at least once. The fact is, Trump who was in power lost in 2020, yet to them Biden cheated. Yet once he had full control of the federal government he allowed himself and his entire party to lose at the federal level in 2024?

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  2. BenMullen2 Avatar

    they dont do things with logic. they are just happy to see habeus corpus suspended at last.

  3. lurgi Avatar

    Easy. He was so overwhelmingly popular (everyone says so) in 2024 that even the massive cheating by ol’ Senile Joe and his criminal family couldn’t overcome it. The only reason he lost in 2020 was because he believed that the (criminal) Democrats (who are the worst) would actually play fair and let an honest election happen.

  4. Powerful_Relative_93 Avatar

    MAGA: I reject reality and substitute my own.

  5. ziptasker Avatar

    This is the purpose of their gaslighting, to get us to ask questions like these, have conversations like these. Trying to apply logic to the illogical.

    Try something else, Russian bot.

  6. DanJDare Avatar

    I swear I say this 5 time a day. Stop expecting intellectual, moral or logic congruity in MAGA beliefs.

  7. Icolan Avatar

    Your expectation that MAGA cares anything about logic or rationality at this point is irrational. They have repeatedly shown that they do not care about reality or anyone but themselves.

    There have been tons of videos with MAGA followers showing just how irrational their beliefs are and when they were shown the problems they did not care or wrapped themselves in another cozy conspiracy blanket.

    It is painfully obvious that MAGA does not think about anything that does not fit into their worldview and as long as their candidate is in power and sticking it to the immigrants, LGBTQ+, and Democrats they do not care about anything else, regardless of what it costs the world and the future.

  8. ClassroomHonest7106 Avatar

    Jack posobiec has argued that democrats are only able to conjure a certain number of fake ballots

  9. Odd-Principle8147 Avatar

    You’re thinking about it too hard.

  10. The-zKR0N0S Avatar

    Well, you see, Trump won despite the voting issues this time.

    The democrats were able to successfully cheat when Trump was in power, but when they controlled the power of government were completely unable to cheat big enough to hold back Donald Trump’s massive popularity.

    /s

  11. Wigglebot23 Avatar

    You’re trying to ground something in fact and logic that’s simply not grounded in fact and logic

  12. MyceliumHerder Avatar

    In fairness he said the 2024 election would be rigged and stolen, he just didn’t say that it would be him rigging and stealing it. Maybe it was the first time he was telling the truth?

  13. yasinburak15 Avatar

    dude they see politics like a sport, I fucking love soccer for example, but lets pick a moment, look at the Real Madrid vs atlético, fans go nuts and call the VAR and whole of FIFA rigging it for Madrid.’

    now look at the average voter in MAGA movement, they tend to dislike when their “team” loses, call it rigged, says they should sack the RNC leader, what i am trying to say is, these people do not understand politics at all, they view it as a fucking game.

  14. CaptScherzKeks Avatar

    It’s a cult, that’s why. Everything Trump does is fair & and square, and everything the democrats do is lie & cheat. You can’t use MAGA & logic in the same sentence. They are antithetical to any logic there is.

  15. Sea-jay-2772 Avatar

    There is no logic, only Zuul.

  16. EntropicAnarchy Avatar

    They knew he lost in 2020.

    They know they stole the 2024 election using Musk and by disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of peoples votes.

  17. Dapper_Bluejay_6228 Avatar

    Money. Not logic. Moooooooney

  18. MurrayInBocaRaton Avatar

    I don’t know, ask them.

  19. nononotes Avatar

    Why? Who cares about this ancient history? Did you hear Obama wore a tan suit and Hilary stole the nomination from Bernie? Have you seen what’s actually going on now??

  20. Shr3kk_Wpg Avatar

    Logic has nothing to do with MAGA. In 2020, Trump was talking about a stolen election in August. Using logic, Trump did nothing to stop the “election fraud” while he was President. They see him as the poor, innocent victim instead of an incompetent chief executive.

  21. FionnVEVO Avatar

    They don’t

  22. Diligent-Emu-3025 Avatar

    MAGA and logic in the same sentence doesn’t make sense.

  23. random_guy00214 Avatar

    He made 2024 too big to rig 

  24. heyhodadio Avatar

    Why not ask this in the conservative sub?

    Essentially comes down to 2024 not having covid and the voting insanity around that

    In 2024 mail in voting dropped dramatically after stricter ID requirements were passed. Georgia went from 1.3 million ballots cast by mail in 2020 to 286,000. Remember, Biden won by only 11k voted here.

    And it’s not like the administration / existing apparatus didn’t try to get him disqualified. Remember the RICO case? Actually disqualified from the ballot in three states but overruled by Supreme Court, and attempted in 34 states?

    Don’t shoot the messenger 🏳️ this is at least partially how it’s justified

  25. whetrail Avatar

    Because all they care about is they won we lost. If it is proven that trump cheated in the near future they’ll show their true colors once more.

  26. Necessary_Ad_2762 Avatar

    >How can MAGA logically accept that Trump won in 2024 with no voting issues but lost in 2020?

    MAGA doesn’t run on logic. They run on emotions and whatever Trump wants them to hear.

  27. SovietRobot Avatar

    Real answer?

    It’s that they believe Dems commit voter fraud to increase Dem votes. And it’s not that they believe there’s always voter fraud by the winner. 

    So in 2020 they believe Dems had fewer votes in reality. And in 2024 they also believe Dems had fewer votes in reality. It’s just that in 2024 it wouldn’t have made a difference. 

    I don’t believe the above but I’m just trying to answer the question. 

  28. Deedeelite Avatar

    You lost me with “MAGA” and “logically”. That’s an oxymoron.