A Right-Wing Influencer Tried to Be a Tradwife. It Almost Broke Her.

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A Right-Wing Influencer Tried to Be a Tradwife. It Almost Broke Her.

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  1. one_bean_hahahaha Avatar

    She’s still a racist and antifeminist.

  2. uuuuuummmmm_actually Avatar

    “Lauren Southern, one of the most well-known right-wing influencers during Donald Trump’s first term, first went viral with a 2015 video titled “Why I Am Not a Feminist.” Then 19, beautiful and blond, Southern argued that women are advantaged in many areas of life, including child custody disputes and escaping abusive relationships. “Feminists are unintentionally creating a world of reverse sexism that I don’t want to be a part of,” she said.

    But being an antifeminist, it turns out, is no shield against abusive male power. Southern’s new self-published memoir, “This Is Not Real Life,” is the story of conservative ideology colliding with reality. It’s made headlines for her claim that Andrew Tate, an unrepentant online misogynist accused of human trafficking, sexually assaulted her in Romania in 2018. (Tate has denied this.) The book is particularly revealing, though, for its depiction of Southern’s painful attempts to contort herself into an archetypical tradwife, an effort that left her almost suicidal. Her story should be a cautionary tale for the young women who aspire to the domestic life she once evangelized for.

    Despite the presence of a few high-profile women in Trump’s administration, the right is increasingly trying to drive women out of public life. Some of this push comes from the unabashed patriarchs atop the Republican Party; last week, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth reposted a video in which leaders of his Christian denomination said that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote. (“All of Christ for All of Life,” wrote Hegseth.)

    But there are also female influencers who present housewifery as the ultimate in wellness, an escape from the soulless grind of the workplace. “Less Prozac, more protein,” the podcast host Alex Clark told thousands of listeners at a conservative women’s conference in June. “Less burnout, more babies, less feminism, more femininity.” (Clark is unmarried and has no children.)

    This Instagram-inflected traditionalism is taking hold at a time when the workplace is becoming even less friendly to women. As The Washington Post reported on Monday, large numbers of mothers have left the work force this year. Many have been driven out by return-to-office mandates and a backlash against diversity policies that’s led to hostile working environments. But some, according to The Post, “say they are giving up jobs happily, in line with MAGA culture and the rise of the ‘traditional wife.’”

    Southern had more reason than most to want to retreat into the cult of domesticity. As she recounts in her memoir, her antifeminist video helped propel her to international notoriety, and soon she was traveling the world as an avatar of irreverent online reaction. She gave out fliers saying, “Allah is a Gay God” in a Muslim neighborhood in England, popularized the idea that there’s a white genocide in South Africa and interviewed the reactionary philosopher Alexander Dugin on a trip to Moscow seemingly arranged by shadowy Russian interests.

    It was during this phase of her life that she said she was assaulted by Tate, who was just beginning to build his global brand. Her politics made the trauma particularly hard to process. “It wouldn’t be very helpful to ‘the cause’ (or my career, for that matter) for me to become exactly what I criticized,” wrote Southern. “A victim.”

    After her encounter with Tate, she wrote, her life “unraveled.” She yearned to escape her own infamy and the need to keep shoveling more outrageous content into the internet’s insatiable maw. So when she met a man who wanted to settle down, she jumped at the chance to give up her career and become a stay-at-home wife and mother. She posted photos of herself baking, and “selfies in the mirror showing how quickly I had bounced back to fitness and health after pregnancy.”

    But in reality, she wrote, her life was “hell.” She’d moved with her husband from Canada, where she’d grown up, to his native Australia, where she lived in near-total isolation. Her husband treated her with growing contempt, which she responded to by trying to be an even better wife. “I threw myself tenfold into trying to be the perfect partner: cooking, cleaning, putting on dresses and high heels to welcome him home,” she wrote. But it didn’t work; she said her husband berated her, stayed out until late at night and constantly threatened to divorce her if she didn’t obey him.

    Eventually, she wrote, when she defied him by traveling to Canada to visit her family, he told her the marriage was over. By then, she said, she’d turned over much of her savings to him. She and her son had to move in with her parents, and then into a small, cheap cabin in the woods. She was destitute, full of shame and intellectually adrift. As she told the conservative journalist Mary Harrington last year, when she first went public about her experience with trad life, “My brain was breaking between two worlds, because I couldn’t let go of the ideology.”

    Southern’s book is not an attempt at liberal redemption. Though she claims she’s lost interest in politics, she doesn’t renounce the ugly nativist views that helped her build her audience. She doesn’t apologize for, say, trying to block a boat that rescued drowning migrants in the Mediterranean. But while she’s not a particularly sympathetic figure, that might make her criticism of trad culture more credible, because it’s hard to see a professional motive in a book that’s likely to annoy every political faction.

    Every few decades, it seems, America is fated to endure a new spasm of pseudotraditionalism, with women encouraged to seek shelter from a brutal world in homemaking. The lionization of the housewife in the 1950s came after women were pushed out of their World War II-era jobs. During the 1980s, as Susan Faludi wrote in her classic “Backlash,” women were bombarded with media messages telling them true freedom lay in marriage and motherhood. In 2003, The New York Times Magazine heralded “The Opt-Out Revolution,” part of a wave of media about elite women stepping back from hard-charging careers.

    I’m sure some women are happy renouncing their ambitions to care for husbands and children. But often, women who give in to gender retrenchment come to regret it. A decade after “The Opt-Out Revolution,” a Times Magazine headline read, “The Opt-Out Generation Wants Back In.”

    In her 2007 book “The Feminine Mistake,” Leslie Bennetts wrote, “I couldn’t possibly count the number of women I’ve interviewed who thought they could depend on a husband to support them but who ultimately found themselves alone and unprepared to take care of themselves — and their children.” It seems particularly dangerous to tie one’s fate to a man who is part of an internet subculture obsessed with female submission.
    Unfortunately, the women who most need to hear this message probably won’t listen to middle-aged feminists. They’ll have to wait for it to play out in their own lives, or in the curated lives on their screens.”

  3. recyclopath_ Avatar

    Some people are so devoid of basic empathy that they have to experience something themselves to understand that it’s a bad experience.

  4. pegasuspish Avatar

    Boo fucking hoo I guess? 

  5. GrimgrinCorpseBorn Avatar

    Brb playing the world’s smallest violin

  6. blown-transmission Avatar

    >Southern argued that women are advantaged in many areas of life, including child custody disputes and escaping abusive relationships.

    💀💀💀💀💀

  7. ibarmy Avatar

    still continuing to grift. 

  8. French_O_Matic Avatar

    something something leopards.

  9. MissVachonIfYouNasty Avatar

    So she Serena Joy’d herself and now wants pity? Sure hope that chair, table and bed work out for her.

  10. soberunderthesun Avatar

    Sounds like a cautionary tale if ever I heard one. What they don’t get is that feminism is cool if that’s your choice – you get to choose your own adventure, just not anybody elses. She sounds luckier than a lot of women (although that is not downplaying the crap she went through) in the fact that she still could still leave and start again somewhat.

  11. needfulthing42 Avatar

    Is it that she is no longer interested in politics OR is it that she feels deeply ashamed at her prior dickfuckery and shitty actions and opinions about other women “playing victim” and “whining” about having less rights than men but now that karma stepped in and showed her personally how destructive her stance was on these things, by having them negatively affect her and she doesn’t want to be the butt of jokes and fodder for all the Jimmys on late night shows because it’s embarrassing?

  12. LumpyReplacement1436 Avatar

    This loser was firing flares at refugee rescue boats to stop them coming into Italy, sucks that she got abused, but is still a giant piece of shit.

  13. AntheaBrainhooke Avatar

    She tried to spread her bullshit in New Zealand. We showed her the door.

    Reap, sow, etc

  14. CheesecakeExpress Avatar

    Being a mum (and housewife) is honestly the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I hate that it’s depicted as a cutesy, easy option. We get a year off where I live and most of the mothers in know say, by that point, they are really wanting to go back to work.

    I hate, even more so, anyone encouraging women to give up financial independence and the ability to work. What happens if your husband is abusive? Or is delightful but dies?

    And I also hate that video the defence secretary posted about women not voting. What the actual fuck.

    Just. Fuck.

  15. CozyGorgon Avatar

    So if I am reading this right, after having a paradigm shifting experience….she refuses to change. Remains far right…but bows out?

  16. smogtownthrowaway Avatar

    I just can’t sympathize with her

  17. sezit Avatar

    Just ask them where their 60 yo counterparts are.

    There are none.

  18. lithaborn Avatar

    The women in trump’s administration are there because he wants to fuck them. Let’s not kid ourselves it’s about merit.

  19. StephanieKaye Avatar

    She can go fuck herself, IMO.

  20. La_danse_banana_slug Avatar

    >it’s hard to see a professional motive in a book that’s likely to annoy every political faction

    No it isn’t? She spent her entire previous career doing patently obnoxious things that screamed out for attention, for money. And now, having lost that money, she has an obnoxious (to many factions) attention-grabbing book for sale. People who can maintain prolonged attention through obnoxiousness nearly always find their way to money, it’s the basis of social media for one thing.

  21. Trasnpanda Avatar

    You reap what you sow

  22. Wanna_make_cash Avatar

    She didn’t learn and grow from this experience, so she’s still a vile person spreading vitriol, lies, and misinformation.

  23. Qualityhams Avatar

    The grift continues. She’s an outrage personality.

  24. StoreSearcher1234 Avatar

    What a lot of people fail to realize – Or choose to ignore – Is the fact that “tradwife” influencers typically have an army of people behind the scenes helping make it all work.

    Housekeepers. Nannies. Gardeners. Cooks.

    So they can spend all afternoon arranging flowers and ironing a pretty skirt because others are taking care of the household.

    (…and in the Mormon tradwife influencer world there is also a surprising amount of soft-swapping as well.)

  25. SurpriseDragon Avatar

    As someone who unintentionally became a trad wife to an increasingly ungrateful man, I simply followed in my mother’s footsteps. I thought it was normal to do all the child care, house work, and still get groceries and go to work everyday. I had no idea why I was burning out and exhausted all the time…why couldn’t I be like my mother or for that matter, my grandmother the ultimate trad wife who did it all when women could barely work and still had a bakery job and 4 successful kids. Why was I taking my opportunities to waste, I was lucky to have gone to med school, I should be happy now with everything I ever wanted on my plate.

    After my spouse tragically passed from a genetic disease, I have sadly never felt better or more in charge. Everything is easier without the weight of submission on me. I am in shape, my kids are happy and healthy, I have more friends, just landed a dream job, and I do what I want to do on weekends instead of stay home and cater to my ex. My mother frequently says I should have never gotten married, and maybe she shouldn’t have either, since “having it all” nearly killed her. That insight might have been helpful…oh well.

    Idk why I now sometimes pine for a man I just met with a house and two kids who needs a wife. I do not want that again… I need to stay firm!

  26. Multi-tunes Avatar

    In the current age, feminism will grow after these misguided women learn for themselves why their grandmothers fought to have the right to work and independence. If they won’t listen, then they will find out. I’m not babying them any longer. Learn the hard way.

  27. La_danse_banana_slug Avatar

    >She doesn’t apologize for, say, trying to block a boat that rescued drowning migrants in the Mediterranean.

    Just FYI, Lauren Southern was a 21 year old globe-trotting adult when she participated in HUMAN TRAFFICKING and ATTEMPTED MURDER of refugees (by blocking their rescue by Doctors Without Borders); who knows if her attempted murder victims did in fact die. The hate group had wanted to sink some of those small vessels of refugees themselves, but were unable to.

    Here’s a little more about that incident. From the Southern Poverty Law Center’s article (bolds are mine):

    >Defend Europe [the hate group] had trouble even getting its ship to the Central Mediterranean. First it was delayed for a full week by Sellner [the hate group’s leader & figurehead] and company’s inability to produce routine crew paperwork needed to cross the Suez Canal. Then came a disastrous July 27 refueling stop in Famagusta, a city on the east coast of Cyprus. Port inspectors there found 20 Sri Lankan men on board whose crew member identification appeared counterfeit. The inspectors said the men admitted they were not professional seamen. According to the Guardian, the Sri Lankans told local human rights activists they had paid the equivalent of almost $12,000 each to be smuggled to Italy aboard the Defend Europe ship. Police arrested the ship’s owner, captain, senior officers and Defend Europe activist Alexander Schelyer on charges related to human trafficking. After making a court appearance a few days later, they were released for lack of evidence. Defend Europe claimed the Sri Lankan men were “apprentice sailors” rather than “full-fledged crew members” and denied any knowledge of falsified documents. Fifteen of the 20 crew members were deported to Sri Lanka. The other five claimed asylum.

    >[…]

    >On August 7, Defend Europe tried to refuel at Zarzis, Tunisia, but was thwarted by local fishermen who blocked the refueling channel with small boats, waving signs that read, “No racists.”

    >[…]

    >A week later, Defend Europe abruptly ended its “first mission” after being denied entry by port authorities in Malta. After four weeks at sea, Defend Europe had taken zero immigrants into custody, and sunk zero boats.

    >Sellner declared victory. “It was a success. Undisputedly. Totally,” he stated.

    >One month later, the C-Star was still anchored off the coast of Spain with no fuel or functioning navigation equipment. The nine professional seamen still on board, all Sri Lankans, requested emergency assistance from the Red Cross, which provided them with food, water and jackets. They said they had never been paid.
    [prior to the voyage] Defend Europe [had] raised more than $178,000, far exceeding its original crowdfunding goal of $58,000.

  28. temerairevm Avatar

    This is the ultimate FAFO. It’s almost like influencer culture is toxic to everyone, including influencers.

  29. AlwaysPlaysAHealer Avatar

    “But while she’s not a particularly sympathetic figure, that might make her criticism of trad culture more credible, because it’s hard to see a professional motive in a book that’s likely to annoy every political faction.”

    LOL.

  30. BowsettesBottomBitch Avatar

    Fuck Lauren Southern. Continue the alt right grift bullshit because admitted you really fucked up is somehow shittier than Andrew Tate having his nasty grubby hands all over you? Make it make sense. Ofc she didn’t deserve to be SA’d, but she also doesn’t deserve redemption or a platform cuz she’s still a rampant piece of shit.

  31. riverrocks452 Avatar

    Here is what I don’t understand: Women who want to be SAHPs- even “tradwives”- are free to make those choices from a feminist viewpoint. That’s the point of feminism. But without the work of the feminists that people like Ms. Southern denigrate, they would not have the protections that allow them to leave

    Why can’t folks who want to “return to ‘tradition” just…do that, without trying to force it on the rest of the world? 

    (I know the answer, but it’s not a satisfying one.)

  32. RageBull Avatar

    Who could have predicted that volunteering to behave like property of someone who wants to act as though they own you would turn out badly for you. We are all incredibly shocked

  33. nytopinion Avatar

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  34. EddieMcClintock Avatar

    “She doesn’t apologize for, say, trying to block a boat that rescued drowning migrants in the Mediterranean.”

    Karma demands that bad things continue to happen to her. 

  35. WesternUnusual2713 Avatar

    I don’t even engage intellectually with people like her online any more.

    I simply go with “you’re never ever going to be “white” enough, “traditional” enough, “straight” enough for them – you’re just a useful tool and your turn to be discarded will come.”

  36. findmewayoutthere Avatar

    “less burnout, more babies”

    Yeah you can tell she doesn’t have children. Burnout is ✨ essential ✨ to being a parent.

  37. AugustineBlackwater Avatar

    Cry me a river.

    Think of all the women she’s deluded into similar circumstances. Or worse, abusive men using it to justify their actions.

  38. silentbob1301 Avatar

    influencer culture is a social cancer…

  39. DarienKane Avatar

    Being a tradwife is fine, as long as the man is a trad husband (read- a good man, who is a good husband) but both have to be committed in their roles and be respectful of the other’s role. In the end it’s not about being submissive or dominant, its more “doing your job” ..much the way they say” you can’t make a hoe a housewife”…you can’t make a hater a husband………I already know this comment is going to get misunderstood.