AITA for letting my friend freeze?

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I have a friend staying at my house right now (for free if that matters). I live in Toronto and he’s from India.

For the past week he’s been complaining that it’s too cold and wants me to turn on the heater. For the record, the internal temperature hasn’t dropped past 20oC once, even at night. My thermostat is set to 18oC so even if the heater is “on” it wouldn’t put out heat.

My friend thinks I’m freezing him on purpose because I refuse to turn it on. I don’t know how hot he wants the place to be and think it’s insane for the environment.

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    I have a friend staying at my house right now (for free if that matters). I live in Toronto and he’s from India.

    For the past week he’s been complaining that it’s too cold and wants me to turn on the heater. For the record, the internal temperature hasn’t dropped past 20oC once, even at night. My thermostat is set to 18oC so even if the heater is “on” it wouldn’t put out heat.

    My friend thinks I’m freezing him on purpose because I refuse to turn it on. I don’t know how hot he wants the place to be and think it’s insane for the environment.

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  3. Mundane-Run6179 Avatar

    NTA. It’s your house and he’s a guest who isn’t financially contributing. If he wants a say over the thermostat he can help pay for the bills. Tell him that if he’s so cold he can wear a sweater or hoodie

  4. aitherion Avatar

    NAH leaning NTA because of his attitude about it. Just get him more blankets.

  5. NerdtasticPro418 Avatar

    Nope NTA

    If he doesn’t like the temp tell him he can pay for a place and control the temp all he wants.

    Not to mention 68 sounds amazing, its 86 (30) right now in Florida so we’d all love that temp.

  6. teresajs Avatar

    NTA

    Offer to lend him a sweater and a hat.

  7. Fiempre-sin-tabla Avatar

    NTA. Oh, hi there, visitor from India. You may notice you are not in India. 

  8. Lalov001 Avatar

    NTA. Heating is expensive and not eco-friendly plus it’s your place. Although I think what he feels is valid specially if he comes from a much warmer climate so I’d suggest offering him a blanket and not acting like he’s crazy for even asking.

  9. mercy_fulfate Avatar

    info:

    How long is he staying and what temperature does he want it to be in the house?

  10. pottersquash Avatar

    >I don’t know how hot he wants the place

    I’m sorry YTA cause this is a question that can be asked. “Hey can you turn on heat its freezing?” “My heater only turns on if its below 18c, what temp are you hoping it would be?” “Man, I prefer 25c” “Oh well I can’t actually do that, should I break out a blanket humble guest? Perhaps we can go to local story and get an electric blanket?”

    Just don’t understand how this isn’t a 7 min conversation.

  11. RandomGuy_81 Avatar

    20c…..even 15c is fine

    Dude is visiting cdn

  12. IllustriousBowler259 Avatar

    Time for him to go home and seek medical attention.

    Winter is coming…

    NTA

  13. binger5 Avatar

    Does this dude not know how to put on cloth?

    NTA

  14. PromiseThomas Avatar

    My dad has spent months of his life in India and he told me he would see dudes huddled around impromptu bonfires if the weather dropped below 80 degrees F (about 26 degrees C) because to them, that was cold!

    I live in Minnesota and I joke that my parents are trying to kill me if the thermostat is set to anything below 70 degrees F (21 degrees C). I think it sounds pretty cold in your house, and to your friend who is not used to these temperatures at all, it must feel to him like his fingers and toes are going to fall off any minute! BUT I hesitate to cast judgment on you because this is one of those places where hospitality rules get blurry: Is the rule that the host should adjust the temperature based on the needs of the guest, or is it the rule that the guest should shut up and submit to whatever uncomfortable temperature the host prefers since it’s their house? What is the rule in Canada, what is the rule in India, and does he know the rules are different there, if indeed they are? What temperature is he used to the inside of a home being?

    I would say NAH as you both have a valid perspective and solid ground to stand on. If either of you starts getting rude about it, then that person will be the AH, because it’s just not important enough to get pissy about.

  15. AmyORainbow1974 Avatar

    I’m from the southeastern US and visited a friend in Toronto a few years ago during December. It was cold but nothing I couldn’t handle. I would have never asked him to adjust his heating for me. Some people just expect others to do things how they want things done. At one point it was -13.2C/8.24F and I managed.

  16. 7625607 Avatar

    NTA

    Let him know this is standard for Canada.

  17. jrb1qq Avatar

    If he doesn’t like it now
    Wait till February

  18. North81Girl Avatar

    Tell him heat costs alot of money

  19. MakalakaPeaka Avatar

    NTA.
    To be fair, 18c is pretty chilly, but I’m certain sweatshirts and sweaters exist.

  20. Jack_Stuart_M23 Avatar

    I don’t know if you’re an AH, because it is your house, and he’s a visitor, but typically it’s good hospitality to adjust the temperature somewhat to accommodate guests, and I think you are a bit on the low side of normal indoor temperature. Perhaps you can suck it up and run up a bit of a heating bill for him. ETA: but I guess I don’t want to call you an AH because you aren’t endangering him.

  21. Mystery-Ess Avatar

    It’s not the warmest for around the house during the day, but sweaters exist. I sleep with my house colder than that at night.

    Nta. They can contribute money for utilities if they want it warmer.

  22. spring13 Avatar

    NAH. 20c is reasonable for where you live: it’s just a big difference to where he comes from. Instead of being snotty about it, make sure he’s got warm blankets/socks/clothes (I’m guessing he doesn’t expect to wear shoes indoors so find him some cozy slippers) and ensure that he has access to as much hot tea or whatever as he likes. If he’s really having a hard time sleeping could you borrow a small space heater?

    Just be nice about it, it’s not really so surprising that a guy from India would find Canadian temperatures cold.

  23. GoingNutCracken Avatar

    NTA and your friend is being unreasonable. Tell him to put more clothes on if he’s cold. I live in AZ and only ever turn the heat on sporadically to get the chill out of the house.

  24. HeyArtse Avatar

    NTA

    From a similar part of the world and agree that 18-20C is a bit chilly BUT that’s because of the temperatures we’re used to. If I were staying in someone else’s home (for free at that) and they said adjusting the temp isn’t possible then it’s not that big of a deal to just put on a jacket so I don’t feel cold

  25. itsamutiny Avatar

    20C is fine, but 18C is frankly too cold for a guest, especially one used to much much warmer weather. I’m in Buffalo and I keep my thermostat at 18C in the winter, but I turn it up a few degrees whenever we have company.

  26. thissucks11111 Avatar

    I have family that lives near the equator. They came to visit Florida and were wearing sweat pants and sweat shirts and still cold at 82°f. It’s not cold to you, but he is freezing

  27. MonteCristo85 Avatar

    I wont turn the temp above something thats comfortable for me, but I do offer blankets and hoodies and warm drinks. But I cant survive in the heat.

  28. DisastrousBeeHive Avatar

    NTA. However, I would freeze to death in your apartment lol. I also would not refuse to put on extra layers and blankets, particularly since I wasn’t paying to stay there!

  29. DearFeralRural Avatar

    I can relate to the visitor. I moved from FNQ to Canberra mid winter. Omg. I was not aware of what cold is, temperatures in the minus Celsius. I have learnt to dress for the weather, singlet, t shirt, jumper, jacket, obviously trousers, beanie and decent socks. I did think about long john underwear but survived without. Best buy was really good boots. I wore a blanket around me inside during the day as I couldnt stop shivering at first. I splurged on a good electric blanket for the bed. Its heading into spring now, and I’m finally feeling warmer. Next winter will be good. And yea my friends place here, the electric bill is very high, and we really didnt run the heaters too much at all.