I am a Highschool student working part time at a clothing store. I recently received a call from one of my supervisors who isn’t a manager but is in charge of my position. She called asking me if I was available to come into work in 30 minutes, meanwhile I have school starting the next day. She’s previously called me before aswell asking if I could come into work right away with like 20 minutes notice. This woman expects me to drop everything on my days off and work. So, I told her I was unavailable and that I would come to work tommorow which is when I’m actually schedule, and she tries to blame me by saying “you said u were available any time after 4 when school starts”. That is completely unfair to me since my availability has to do with when I can be scheduled, not when she can decided to call me in whenever. I am available any time after 4 for scheduling purposes. I should not be expected to not have a life and drop everything when she calls me 30 minutes before she needs me. All this being said, I tell her Im unavailable and she says fine and hangs up. She then has the audacity to call me back 10 minutes later on the work phone and I didn’t pick up because I already told her I am not available. I then put my phone on dnd and went to have a family dinner. When I’m finished dinner I check my notifications and she spammed me another 2 times on her personal phone number. I obviously did not answer and now I’m scared to go into work tommorow. Am I in the wrong?
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I am a Highschool student working part time at a clothing store. I recently received a call from one of my supervisors who isn’t a manager but is in charge of my position. She called asking me if I was available to come into work in 30 minutes, meanwhile I have school starting the next day. She’s previously called me before aswell asking if I could come into work right away with like 20 minutes notice. This woman expects me to drop everything on my days off and work. So, I told her I was unavailable and that I would come to work tommorow which is when I’m actually schedule, and she tries to blame me by saying “you said u were available any time after 4 when school starts”. That is completely unfair to me since my availability has to do with when I can be scheduled, not when she can decided to call me in whenever. I am available any time after 4 for scheduling purposes. I should not be expected to not have a life and drop everything when she calls me 30 minutes before she needs me. All this being said, I tell her Im unavailable and she says fine and hangs up. She then has the audacity to call me back 10 minutes later on the work phone and I didn’t pick up because I already told her I am not available. I then put my phone on dnd and went to have a family dinner. When I’m finished dinner I check my notifications and she spammed me another 2 times on her personal phone number. I obviously did not answer and now I’m scared to go into work tommorow. Am I in the wrong?
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NTA. You already gave her an answer. It was the right answer and it wasn’t going to change. No need to get into more conversations about the same thing. You did nothing wrong. Just go to work as usual.
Also just because you’re available to be scheduled doesn’t mean that you can’t make other plans when you’re not scheduled. So of course you’re normally not going to be available on very short notice.
NTA not exactly an on call position. 30 mins notice is absolutely ridiculous.
NTA! You absolutely did nothing I wouldn’t have done myself. If a job calls and asks if you can come in, it is considered a request, not a demand.
You have every right to say yes, and you have every right to say no. Not coming in on your non-scheduled hours can not be used against you either.
NTA
Don’t delete the call log or the texts. You might even want to tell her that all requests need to be sent to you via text. This is to create a paper trail, so if she does retaliate against you or keeps trying to repeatedly demand you come in when you aren’t scheduled you can go to your manager with it.
NTA. You are available to be rostered after 4pm any day after school. That does not mean that you must be available after 4pm every day when they have indicated that you are not required (that is, they have not rosters you on a shift).
This woman is power tripping and thinks no one should have a life outside of her own poor planning. I bet you could get another job, you should try that.
if you are casual, they may be wanting you to assist covering someone who is off sick at short notice. you can refuse if you are not available. that said, for many casual positions, if you don’t take up the short notice hours you may find that you as scheduled less for regular hours. clarify with you supervisor/manager that you are available after 4 but may not be available at short notice as you schedule appointments etc around the hours you are expected at work. perhaps discuss giving 24 hours notice so appointments can be rescheduled if extra hours are required
NTA: You are describing a fairly normal interaction for a hospitality/retail worker. Like, her calling to see if you could come in is perfectly appropriate and normal for a supervisor.
You are wrong for your overreaction to a perfectly mundane part of work. She will do the same thing to your coworkers if you were the one to call out sick or something.
However, she is the bigger asshole for the repeated calls after you gave your initial answer. When you said you were unavailable, that should have been the end of it.
NTA She’s treating you like you are an ‘on-call’ worker. On-call workers get paid for being on call, whether they get called in or not.
NTA. At all.
NTA. Hasn’t this woman heard of a roster? Her inability to plan shifts properly is not your problem. Keep records of her constant contact and raise it to the manager above her.
As a manager NTA, but in terms of employment it greatly depends on where you leave/what you were hired for. If you were hired for on call literally at all, then you’re the asshole, but if you were hired standard part time or full time, you’re good in my books
NTA- you’re not on call. No is a complete sentence. High five for putting your phone on dnd and continuing about your day off. Their poor scheduling isn’t an emergency on your part.
NTA Her problems are not your problems. You are in high school, make that your priority and work when you feel like it. They should or could have plenty of adults available they could get to work. It is fine for her to call you one time asking if you can work, it is not fine for her to call repeatedly after you have told her you are unavailable. I would report this occurrence to her manager and to human resources and inform them that you are making a formal complaint about her behavior and that if this ever happens again you will no longer be working there at all. This is not appropriate business behavior. If they think she has done nothing wrong then walk away and don’t look back.
NTA
However, if you also complain about being short staffed, or want to call out when sick or in an emergency, I wouldn’t be so rigid to only work when scheduled
Shift work in a low margin job is tough, but better if people are willing to be flexible, within reason.
I know this is unpopular sometimes on Reddit, but the concept of reciprocity is really important
Report her to hr for harassment
NTA. And good for you for being strong. You are in high school for crying out loud. Set the precedent now that you are not available on short notice like that.
NTA. They obviously need to hire someone for “on-call” shifts.
FWIW, I had a union job when I was a teen. For short call shifts, we made 1.5x. I am not saying your job will offer that to you. Just giving you an example of why you shouldn’t accept those shifts (unless you want to.)
NTA.
It’s fine for them to ask if you can work. Stuff comes up, people call in sick, etc…
It’s not fine for them to try and guilt you into working when you’re not scheduled and have said no. It’s especially not ok to them harass you by calling multiple times.
If she brings it up, personally, I’d just inform her that calling you multiple times after you’ve already said no is harassment and if she wants to continue discussing it your happy to do so with the store manager/HR present.
Hell no! You are available after four pm for X amount of days per week- it was already filled so after 4pm is irrelevant. You aren’t in the wrong but power trippin’ dumbasses are going to try their hardest to make you feel that way.
Someone called in sick or skipped and they got in a jam, couldn’t deal with the pressure like a boss and made their problem your problem. You’re all good.
If they argue, tell them to post on Reddit and let neutral arbitrators decide. NTA
NTA. You are not an on-call employee, so while you are available to be scheduled ahead of time, you are not available always for coverage. And you don’t have to have a reason more than that. If they want you to be on call, then they need to pay you for that.
NTA and keep doing precisely what you are currently doing. You have more gumption and common sense than the average woman of thirty who gets maneuvered into this kind of thing constantly. Keep it up.
Nta. You are still a student, not even a full time employee.
NTA. I worked in retail in highschool and that is not what availability means. You can be scheduled after 4 not you will come in without question after 4. Your supervisor sounds like a power tripping weirdo. I would ask for a meeting with your actual manager, preferably the store manager and say you feel uncomfortable by how many times she called you, including on the supervisor’s personal phone after you told her you were unavailable. Depending on how the manager responds you may want to start looking for a different job. You are absolutely entitled to free time and should not be harassed into coming in.
NTA
you’re not on call, you don’t owe answering the phone outside of business hours. If she wants greater accessibility to you then she needs to pay you for on-call hours. She already had her answer and had no business calling you back again after. You need to talk to someone higher up than her on the totem pole about her inappropriate behavior towards a minor.
Absolutely not. Let her know that your ‘lack of preparation does NOT constitute an emergency on MY part.’ And make it clear that your availability is only on days scheduled, that is, school days. Your days off are your days off, and you do not care to be disturbed.