So I (F26) used to have this intense, on-and-off relationship with my ex, “JF” (M27). We met when I was 19 and had this crazy instant connection, but he was always hot and cold. We were long distance, and for 6 years it was this push-pull dynamic. Sometimes we were together, sometimes we weren’t, sometimes we were in other serious relationships, but we always ended up circling back.
He’d breadcrumb me, say things like “we’ll get married once we’re done with school, have our careers, and live in the same city.” But then he’d go cold again. I dated other people (seriously, not just hookups), but he was the only one who ever really got into my heart. By 25, I’d had enough and told myself I wasn’t going to be his backup plan anymore. Still, he’d pop up once in a while with some message, and I’d respond, but I didn’t take him seriously anymore.
Fast forward a bit. I was out one night with old friends and ran into one of JF’s closest College friends, “Hottie” (M27) who had moved to my town. I’d known of him through JF, but we’d never really hung out before. Anyway, Hottie and I hit it off immediately, we were instantly drawn to each other but we didn’t let ouselves take it to the next level. We spent so much time together but were always in a bigger friend group. So many night he and I would stay up talking all night. One night we admitted feelings but said straight up, that nothing could ever happen because of JF.
…But eventually, after a drunk night, it happened. And it was fireworks. We became obsessed with each other. After that, we basically spent every night together for months and months. It felt like the first time I’d ever really gotten over JF. We couldnt keep our hands off each other.
To Hottie I downplayed my past with JF a lot, though — I never told Hottie about all the “someday we’ll get married” comments, because honestly, I was embarrassed.
A few months later, JF texts me, out of the blue, saying he’s coming to my town for the weekend, wants to meet up, blah blah. I told him no, because I was seeing someone, but I offered to meet for a coffee so I could come clean. He rejected the coffee idea, not surprising, as I assumed he just wanted a hookup, and then messeged that I shouldn’t get too close to this new guy because I was “still going to marry him.” 🙄 Whatever, I was just relieved to feel done with his games.
Turns out, JF also called Hottie and made plans with him that same weekend (and told him about his new girlfriend, which he never told me). Hottie told me he was going to tell JF about us that night, because he couldn’t lie to his face. This was the first time they were going to see each other since we started secretly dating. I still didn’t tell Hottie about the bullshit “marriage promises” JF made to me, because again… pride.
Well, that night Hottie tells JF about us. JF absolutely flips out. Says Hottie has to stop seeing me immediately because I’m “the one” he’s going to end up with, that his current girlfriend is temporary, etc. It was a scene.
The next morning, Hottie ends things with me. He said he didnt realize his friend still had feelings, and he couldn’t do that to his friend, even though he had real feelings for me. We were both crushed.
Since then, what I hear through mutual friends is that Hottie’s heartbroken too, and JF isn’t even speaking to him.
Now I’m sitting here devastated, feeling like I lost the first guy I ever truly loved, and who made me genuinely happy after JF. All because I didn’t handle things right. If I’d been more upfront about JF’s manipulations, maybe it wouldn’t have blown up like this.
I also have so much guilt that I ruined their friendship.
EDIT: Thanks for all your comments. I should have mentioned that I made it very clear to Hottie that I would never get back together with JF. Ever. His other friends in that group (not our mutual friend group, this is his college boys group with JF) told him that he absolutely can’t go near me because JF still talks about me and our future. Hottie understands that it’s nonsense, but he said he still cant.
The day after Hottie ended things, I sent JF a message blasting him and telling him to never contact me again. I was not kind. My message was very clear. He is now blocked… forever.
It’s been the hardest week of my life. I know I should have been more upfront with Hottie. I can tell by my own heartbreak that I’ve never loved anyone before this. When we broke up, I told him I didn’t want to be friends, I have enough friends. No hard feelings, but I cant pretend to turn my feelings off. I told him not to call me because it would be too painful for me since we can’t be together. He sadly agreed.
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Backup of the post’s body: So I (F26) used to have this intense, on-and-off relationship with my ex, “JF” (M27). We met when I was 19 and had this crazy instant connection, but he was always hot and cold. We were long distance, and for 6 years it was this push-pull dynamic. Sometimes we were together, sometimes we weren’t, sometimes we were in other serious relationships, but we always ended up circling back.
He’d breadcrumb me, say things like “we’ll get married once we’re done with school, have our careers, and live in the same city.” But then he’d go cold again. I dated other people (seriously, not just hookups), but he was the only one who ever really got into my heart. By 25, I’d had enough and told myself I wasn’t going to be his backup plan anymore. Still, he’d pop up once in a while with some message, and I’d respond, but I didn’t take him seriously anymore.
Fast forward a bit. I was out one night with old friends and ran into one of JF’s closest College friends, “Hottie” (M27) who had moved to my town. I’d known of him through JF, but we’d never really hung out before. Anyway, Hottie and I hit it off immediately, we were instantly drawn to each other but we didn’t let ouselves take it to the next level. We spent so much time together but were always in a bigger friend group. So many night he and I would stay up talking all night. One night we admitted feelings but said straight up, that nothing could ever happen because of JF.
…But eventually, after a drunk night, it happened. And it was fireworks. We became obsessed with each other. After that, we basically spent every night together for months and months. It felt like the first time I’d ever really gotten over JF. We couldnt keep our hands off each other.
To Hottie I downplayed my past with JF a lot, though — I never told Hottie about all the “someday we’ll get married” comments, because honestly, I was embarrassed.
A few months later, JF texts me, out of the blue, saying he’s coming to my town for the weekend, wants to meet up, blah blah. I told him no, because I was seeing someone, but I offered to meet for a coffee so I could come clean. He rejected the coffee idea, not surprising, as I assumed he just wanted a hookup, and then messeged that I shouldn’t get too close to this new guy because I was “still going to marry him.” 🙄 Whatever, I was just relieved to feel done with his games.
Turns out, JF also called Hottie and made plans with him that same weekend (and told him about his new girlfriend, which he never told me). Hottie told me he was going to tell JF about us that night, because he couldn’t lie to his face. This was the first time they were going to see each other since we started secretly dating. I still didn’t tell Hottie about the bullshit “marriage promises” JF made to me, because again… pride.
Well, that night Hottie tells JF about us. JF absolutely flips out. Says Hottie has to stop seeing me immediately because I’m “the one” he’s going to end up with, that his current girlfriend is temporary, etc. It was a scene.
The next morning, Hottie ends things with me. He said he didnt realize his friend still had feelings, and he couldn’t do that to his friend, even though he had real feelings for me. We were both crushed.
Since then, what I hear through mutual friends is that Hottie’s heartbroken too, and JF isn’t even speaking to him.
Now I’m sitting here devastated, feeling like I lost the first guy I ever truly loved, and who made me genuinely happy after JF. All because I didn’t handle things right. If I’d been more upfront about JF’s manipulations, maybe it wouldn’t have blown up like this.
I also have so much guilt that I ruined their friendship.
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I mean yall weren’t dating anybody so that’s your right, but what did you think was gonna happen. You had to know it was gonna be a “me or him” scenario right? Like did yall think that through?
This is a classic case of a guy not wanting you until you’re with someone else. You and JF were never actually together, you were in this weird holding pattern. You met someone new who was actually consistent, and JF couldn’t handle it. The fact that he’s still trying to control you and your life, even when he has a girlfriend, shows how little he actually cared about your feelings and how much he cared about his own ego. You tried to be honest, and he just went on a rampage. It sucks that Hottie got caught in the crossfire, but he’s a grown man who made his own choice to end things.
Hottie isn’t JF’s real friend. He should’ve contacted him before you two did anything physical. If he was really his friend. Just to make sure he wouldn’t hurt his feelings. Hottie wanted in, he got in, had his fun. Found a way out without making him look like the bad guy but in reality he is. You’re also not innocent in this, you knew they were friends and lied, with held an important truth. You kind of had it coming and even though JF is also in the wrong, this whole thing makes it seem like you were the only one.
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JF has issues and I think you should nail that coffin shut forever. He sounds like a walking talking red flag.
I would suggest blocking JF completely (social media and phone number) and then trying to reconnect with Hottie if you still feel so intensely for him. (maybe wait some time while Hottie gets over the emotions of JF’s friendship) Don’t let some prick keep you away from the man you could actually marry!
Honestly, NTA. Not even close. JF is A1 certified twat for leading you on for years and trying to put dibs on you like you’re some kinda trophy on his shelf. Should you have filled Hottie in from the start bout JF’s BS? Maybe. But like, you were tryin’ to move on too. JF sounds like he ain’t ever gonna let you or anyone else do that. You didn’t ruin their friendship. JF’s actions and obsessions did. Screw that guy. Keep your head up. Better days are comin’, promise.
Honestly, I don’t think you’re the bad guy here. JF had years to step up and commit and he chose not to. You moved on, and it just happened to be with someone close to him. That’s not ideal, but you’re not obligated to put your life on hold forever for a guy who only shows up when it’s convenient for him.
JF kept you as a backup plan for years. The second you found real happiness with someone in his circle, his ego couldn’t handle it.
I do think it’s crazy you started dating at 19 and mow 26!
Your hormone brain obviously takes over from your rational brain. I would start loving yourself and start learning something that interests you apart from men 🌼
Seems like you are repeating yourself with being obsessed easily early on leading to issue in your relationships.
It is not normal for guys to date their friends past.
JF doesn’t have dibs on you. You were NTA, you were all free to date whomever you want. Is it ideal? No. But it happens.
Call hottie. It sounds like he misses you.
Tell Jf to fuck off and stop messaging / calling you. Then go back to Hottie and try to win him back. If he can’t see that Jf isn’t serious about you, it’s his loss.
End it with JF by blocking him. He is not worth it as he is not exactly staying around, you’re his back up plan. Call hottie up and talk to him. It looks like he is devastated because you both were CRAZY about each other. You’re trying to move on that’s why you didn’t tell him about “marrying” b**t because it’s b***t.
You need to block JF. Then have an honest conversation with hottie, tell him everything that JF is manipulative and you finally got away from him and have no feelings for him and you realise he was just breadcrumbing you and you moved on.
I hope he can put someone he loves ahead of that POS who said his gf was a placeholder until he’s down fucking around and then he’ll marry you. Ugh no JF and his community dick can f right off.
If hottie still decides to end things, then that is his choice. I would distance yourself from anyone who is friends with JF. Go completely NC, private socials etc.
You said that you would still respond to JF messages, did you ever tell him that you were done for good? Although is an AH and is not entitled to anything, he might not still be saying the “we’ll get married” bullshit if you drew a strict line.
If you are genuine with Hottie, I would explain the entire situation, how there is no chance in hell you’ll go back to JF so the only thing this situation has accomplished is breaking up everyone. JF will probably never be his friend again, you’ll never go back to JF and you lost Hottie.
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Honestly, I would tell “hottie” that JF uses the marriage crap as a manipulation technique. I would, if he’s willing, sit down and lay it all out for him. The way he has been manipulative and is using you as some weird backup when you are completely over him. It doesn’t matter that he pretends to be into you because it’s never going to happen.
I guess, if anything, I would be glad that you were able to enjoy someone else, and you never have to go back to that douchebag ever again. Honestly, if he ever texts you, just write back “Go fuck yourself.” Every time. Let that be the only thing JF ever hears from you from now on!
Honestly, JF had his chance for years and kept stringing you along. You don’t owe him loyalty after the way he treated you. If you and Hottie genuinely care about each other, then that’s what matters now. The drama is just JF trying to keep control he lost.
I don’t think you did anything particularly wrong.
Hottie was aware of your 6y long on-off relationship with your ex, and as a close friend should have checked with him before he started seeing you.
You didn’t flag him the ex still had feelings because you knew he has been taking you for a ride for 6 years, and his feelings do not seem genuine. The ‘marriage’ thing is more of an inside joke than a real plan. If he really cared about you, he would be with you and not a different girlfriend.
You need to cut ties, completely and permanently with your ex. Try to contact Hottie and tell him where you stand. Up to him to decide what to do with that information.
NTA. You and Hottie are consenting adults. JF doesn’t get to put you on a shelf for years and then claim ownership. His “marriage promise” was a manipulative lie to keep you on the hook, proven by the fact he had a girlfriend he never told you about. You are not responsible for his hypocrisy or the fallout of his toxic behavior.
ESH. JF sounds manipulative but you knew this would eventually blow up. How would you feel if JF started dating one of your friends? You’d be furious.
I get why you kept things quiet, but that secrecy is probably what made it explode like this. If Hottie had been upfront with JF from the start, JF would’ve still been mad but it wouldn’t have felt like betrayal. The relationship itself isn’t wrong, it’s just the sneaking around part that made it worse.
You were wet for him because he’s 1 degree of separation from JF who clearly has a toxic codependent hold over your brain for whatever reason and you need to cut him and his circle off entirely if you want to grow as a person. Growth is painful that way.
NTA.
What didn’t you handle right, exactly?
You gave up taking JF seriously after years of see saw. Were you waiting to marry him? No. That fool was delulu.
Go get Hottie. JF can pound sand.
Their relationship breakdown isn’t yours. Take a moment to think about this – JF was introducing his new gf to hottie. The GF! Hottie tells him about you. JF who has a GF says that you’re his. JF is a narcissist. Hottie needs to work out what he wants. You need to talk to hottie and explain your relationship and how manipulative JF is. Give hottie the option – JF has already walked away and he’s not interested in you unless someone else is. JF playing with you both.
So, JF has an actual girlfriend, has ignored you for long stretches of time, but goes ballistic when you’re in love with someone else? Yikes. This guy is bad news. He doesn’t respect you, wants to control you without treating you well, and even sees other women while claiming that he owns you. You need to cut JF off completely, making sure he knows it’s permanent and non-negotiable.
You need to call Hottie back and tell him that JF doesn’t own you, that you’ve cut him off and you never want to speak to him again. Tell him the whole story of your dysfunctional relationship and that you’re not in love with JF at all. You didn’t ruin their friendship, JF did. If Hottie would rather dump you to keep JF as a friend, then sadly, he’s not the great person you think he is.
I get why you didn’t want to tell Hottie the full extent of JF’s breadcrumbing, but that lack of transparency is probably going to come back to bite you. If you and Hottie are serious, it might be better to have a very real conversation about everything before JF twists the story his way.
If Hottie values his not close friendship with Jf over your relationship, then his not the right person for you either.
I would make Jf’s girlfriend aware of what happened because he’s doing the same thing to her that he did to you. Then block him everywhere.
You should have been upfront with Hottie. Told him everything about your past relationship. He may have seen things differently.
As someone who was engaged (he died, we didn’t break up) to a wonderful man and dated his best friend before him, I can say the truth is essential. And hard.
It’s hard on friendships not necessarily even with just the one friend. People will judge even if the ex treated you like shit.
YTA for not being upfront with your most current ex. You got yourself in a sticky situation and basically lied.
Wow, that poor girlfriend of JF.
You have the right to your own happiness, live your life babes
You handled things JUST fine!! You didn’t owe Hottie a ppt of your previous relationship with J F. J F is a PoS and Hottie needs to grow a set.
Im really disappointed in Hottie. He put his wanker friend before an incredible connection with you. Neither of them is worthy of you!!!
It’s your choice who you see, not JFs
OP, I’m sorry, but you need to talk to him and tell him that you will never get with your ex again!!!
Stop acting like this behavior is ok.
You will lose the chance to possibly have an forever!!
Also, you should gave told this guy the truth about how the ex is treating you and that you are done.
It is kinda your fault for not speaking up and finally blocking your ex!!!!
This situation was always going to be messy because of how intertwined everyone is, but I think JF’s reaction shows why you never could have a healthy relationship with him. He expected you to wait around indefinitely while he kept his options open, and now he’s trying to dictate your love life even though he’s with someone else. Hottie choosing to end things probably has more to do with their friendship than with you personally.
NTA
>I ruined their friendship.
Can’t of been much of a friendship if hottie had no idea JF felt that way about you.
You need to block JF on everything so he can’t reach you.
I think you tell Hottie the truth. If you really want him, time to overcome your pride. I mean look, this guy is saying he’s marrying you and telling Hottie about his new girlfriend. Massive ick. Just come clean and let Hottie truly decide if you’re worth it.
Write a letter that puts everything-and I mean EVERYTHING-out on the table.
Explain in exquisite painful detail how J fucked with your emotions with not only his cold/hot routine, but also all the control freak red flags you observed while in the on again-off again LDR. DO NOT FORGET the part about the marriage “proposal.”
After writing all that out, do the same for H. Yes. In the same letter. In this part, state that “feelings” from one half of a relationship absolutely are not valid in making one. (Honestly, if that were the case, I’d “be in a relationship” with Tom Hiddleston. 🙃 )
When you have finished, take the letter to the post office, and send it CERTIFIED MAIL requiring a signature from receiving parties.
And oh, don’t forget to keep a copy (or three) for yourself.
Good luck OP!
The only thing I think you could’ve handled differently is being more upfront with Hottie about just how deep your history with JF was. That way, he could’ve made an informed decision before things got serious. But aside from that, you don’t owe JF anything anymore. He’s your ex for a reason, and you’re allowed to build a future without him.
So he smashed your friend , now you wanna be smashed by him? What about hades?
My reaction to this is that Jf wants to dictate other people’s relationships.
If he has several friends and you end up with one of them, then Jf will make sure it ends, between you and any guy again and again, and you become the ‘passaround girl’
What I mean is, there gonna use you, because now they know that they can get you, get jf mad, and then dump you, believe me, you don’t want to be the jfs group’s ‘passaround girl’
I knew a girl who this happened to, she committed suicide when she found out.
You should preferably not date any guy who hangs out with Jf, he seems to be the mini-dictator of his social group.
Once and for all tell JF to ” f$#k off!”
Honestly, it doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong here. JF had his chance for years and kept stringing you along. He doesn’t get to call dibs on your future or dictate who you date now. The way he flipped out just shows he still thinks he can control the situation.
Textbook “dog in the manger” play by JF. (https://read.gov/aesop/081.html) You could try reaching out one more time to Hottie and see if you 2 can talk things out. Tell him about all the back and forth and breadcrumbing and nonsense that JF pulled on you before you met Hottie. Remind him that you and JF were no longer an item and JF actually had a girlfriend when he pulled all this latest crap; that just goes to show that JF was never really serious about you, it was all a game. Talking may not go anywhere, but you don’t know unless you try!
JF is an asshole and Hottie a weakass. You don’t owe him much more explanation as long as the marriage plans weren’t serious for you anymore, regardless if they ever were…
NTA
You are not property. Your heart belongs to whoever you love.
You’re not your ex’s property. He had his shot with you. He blew it. You owe him nothing. The fact that he thinks he still “owns” you is shitty.
NTA, screenshot and text JFs gf
I wouldn’t date a guy who thinks I’m chattel. You don’t belong to the ex. He can’t claim you.
Big red flag for me with this relationship if I was “hottie” I’d dip out
ESH…. If you were serious about being done with JF you should’ve BLOCKED HIM. You staying in contact is you keeping one foot in the door of that relationship. Of course you never told hottie about every little detail because if he knew then he’d probably not even bothered in the first place. No one wants to be a place holder. this whole thing blew up because you refused to seriously put your foot down and cut JF off permanently long time ago.
Crazy, instant connection that was always hot and cold. AI doesn’t even try anymore. 🤫
Honestly, I reckon hottie will come back around.
Honestly, I don’t think you’re the asshole here. JF had years to step up and treat you right, but he didn’t. The fact that he thought he could still “claim” you while stringing you along shows how selfish he is. It sucks that it blew up the friendship between him and Hottie, but that’s not on you — that’s on JF’s inability to move on.
ESH. If the roles were reversed everyone would be crucifying the girl bff for not being a girls girl. But because it’s guys, everyone think this is ok. I will say though, you can’t help who you love. JF sounds very toxic and probably needs to be cut from both your lives. He needs to grow up in a big way. Actions have consequences. If you pursue a relationship with Hottie, be prepared for that to be an issue with your relationship forever. Communication is key here. TALK to each other.
Y’all where never together really he had plenty of people on the side he just wanted you to be there when he came around for sex etc. let this dude go please he was gonna hook up with you while having a gf and you know he was doing it the whole time. Let them both go actually.
You’re not the asshole for dating while single — JF wasn’t your boyfriend. You could have been more upfront with Hottie about why you were done with JF, though. I’d tell him “By 25, I’d had enough and told myself I wasn’t going to be his backup plan anymore” and that you moved on.
Others have here have suggested you cut contact with JF and I agree—he’s not going to get the message that you’re not “his” unless you stop communicating with him.
You’re also not responsible for JF and Hottie’s friendship—they’re almost 30, for Christi’s sake, they can deal with it or not.
Honestly, JF sounds like he just wanted to keep you on the hook forever without ever committing. You don’t owe him your life or your choices, especially after years of mixed signals. If you and Hottie have something real, that matters more than JF’s bruised ego.
I hope hottie comes to his senses and realizes what a major douch canoe his “friend” is.
Are we sure everyone here isn’t still 19/20? I refuse to believe this is how a group of almost 30 year olds handled this.
Dam, that friend is nothing but a back stabber. And you knew what you were doing. You should feel guilty. You ruined a great friendship forever and you still ended up alone.
The sooner people realize swinging has its price the sooner they will learn to be accountable instead of acting naive and oblivious to events and crying about scenarios they are directly responsible for.
ESH find someone that isn’t friends with your ex’s to date next time. Shouldn’t be that hard.
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I hate the initials JF, and this sounds like highschool drama.
It’s your decision whom you date, not theirs. They sound like they’re acting like children.
Hottie is an idiot and doesn’t deserve you. Any man who truly loves someone wouldn’t choose a petty immature college group over a girl he supposedly loves. He knows JF, so he knows how unserious he is being about you. He chose them, that should tell you how much he has in common with JF.
These are people in their late 20s? You guys aren’t in high school anymore grow tf up. No one should dictate who you date. Specially some guy who just used you (op) as a fwb situation. Hottie is literally prioritizing a guy who used and hurt his gf. Hottie is an AH but not for dating you, he is an AH for leaving you and not standing up for you. Disconnect from these people, you will fall in love again and this will be something you cringe at. Neither of these men value you. Raise your standards.
You aren’t an AH but girl you are doing way too much. If you want to be in a real relationship you gotta put on your big girl pants and just be honest from the jump, you’re 26. All the dramatics, hiding and lying only works on tv shows, not real life. The relationship was doomed from the beginning. This was lust not love, if it was love you wouldn’t have had to do all of this. Take this, learn from it and don’t date anyone connected to your ex.
in what world does dating your ex’s bestfriend ever workout?
Hottie a bad friend no wonder JF cut him off. some things you don’t do.
I think your biggest mistakes were not blocking JF after you finally stopped believing him and not telling Hottie exactly how JF acted–not just the marriage comments but the hot and cold bits, how he manipulated you for years with promises, etc. I’m not saying it would have made Hottie’s decisions any different, but it maybe would have shown him that JF doesn’t want you that way; he just wants to control who you want.
“Hottie” needs to grow a pair or he’s not worth it.
He was your rebound.
Go forth and date unencumbered
Try reading “Attached”. Sounds like Jf is classic avoidant. Breadcrumbs and strings you along with vague promises of marriage but turning distant when things get too close. Glad you have finally severed ties. As for Hottie I would give it a bit of time to quiet down then maybe meet for coffee and calmly revisit what happened and any missteps and regrets. All relationships are messy but with some empathy and willingness to talk about it, maybe you can work it out. Good luck.
As much as you wanted Hottie, he chose his bros over you. Never, ever choose a man who chooses other men, over you, emotionally or otherwise.
Men who want what they want, will do everything in their power to get it. Let things cool off for awhile.
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Does hottie have anything going for him except being hot?
Girl it’s not too late, go get your man back!!
Wake up, you and Hottie are allowing this idiot (JF) to control your lives. WHY?????
Guys that believe bros before ho’s think very little of you. You’re an ex, not a piece of property. Give Hottie an ultimatum and remind him that you choose who you can date.
NTA
You weren’t actually dating anymore, and the ex had refused to commit to a relationship.
He’s pissed now because he’s jealous.
I think it’s trashy to date the friend of an ex.
Not cool to date your ex’s BFF in secret, that just breeds bad vibes and trust issues my dude. If it was all out in the open n u guys were chillin, different story. But shady moves? Nah
Im sorry this happened to you but you and hottest are stupid. This so called friend group are not real friends. He won’t be friends with any of them in 5 years but you and he could be a real thing. Its silly you two broke up. You both need to dump the friends group
Sorry you r suffering. Ex is a jerk.
Your partner should be able to discern whether or not someone is treating you badly. I understand this isn’t a black and white scenario with the complications of friendship, but there was a choice to be made.
If hottie actually cared&loved you it wouldn’t matter what the X says.I wouldn’t trust hottie anymore either…Block him as well and move on.
he call you . he will see the true you. give it time. you both have spark
Hottie needs to realize he can’t unfuck the situation and should go with his heart ❤️
Conselho de amigo. Deixa a poeira assentar e manda-lhe mensagem, e vê o que sai
Get hottie back . Fuck jf