I was personally very inspired by her campaign and was more passionate about her than I was for Biden or Hillary. I know a lot of people think she shouldn’t run again because she “lost” or because of the 2020 primaries etc but I generally don’t care about any of that. In 2020 the canidate was always going to be Biden + Harris wasn’t as experienced and seasoned as she is now. In 2024 we all talk about her losing but no one seems to think what we were heading to if Biden stayed the nominee. Harris reversed course and then some among college graduates and black women. That has to mean for something right? Yes latinos turned their backs from her but that isn’t a Harris issue that is a Democrat issue. The reason they betrayed her is because the fear mongering about deportation and the GOP being racist wasn’t as effective as Democrats being communist/socialist (same reason Bernie had no chance vs Hillary in 2016). So a hardcore progressive would of probably faired worse than Harris did who they called radical left anyways.
Also I get the criticism of the whole “word salad” but Pete Buttigeg said it best on Jubilee that the party kinda controls what the canidate says to a degree + she was the sitting VP.
Then there is the campaigning with the republicans which I actually don’t think hurt her at all because the base she was losing was conservative blue collar democrats “Hispanics”. It mostly showed that her base at the time was broad.
Also another thing that isn’t mentioned is that back in 2020 for some reason, Harris had a higher favorability reason among Hispanics than Biden or Hillary in 2016. She was Obama 2008 levels. Now whether this is because she’s from California (most hispanic state) or because she’s an AG/DA I won’t really know but I think that’s a cool fact.
Anyways #HARRIS2028
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I was personally very inspired by her campaign and was more passionate about her than I was for Biden or Hillary. I know a lot of people think she shouldn’t run again because she “lost” or because of the 2020 primaries etc but I generally don’t care about any of that. In 2020 the canidate was always going to be Biden + Harris wasn’t as experienced and seasoned as she is now. In 2024 we all talk about her losing but no one seems to think what we were heading to if Biden stayed the nominee. Harris reversed course and then some among college graduates and black women. That has to mean for something right? Yes latinos turned their backs from her but that isn’t a Harris issue that is a Democrat issue. The reason they betrayed her is because the fear mongering about deportation and the GOP being racist wasn’t as effective as Democrats being communist/socialist (same reason Bernie had no chance vs Hillary in 2016). So a hardcore progressive would of probably faired worse than Harris did who they called radical left anyways.
Also I get the criticism of the whole “word salad” but Pete Buttigeg said it best on Jubilee that the party kinda controls what the canidate says the a degree + she was the sitting VP.
Then there is the campaigning with the republicans which I actually don’t think hurt her at all because the base she was losing was conservative blue collar democrats “Hispanics”. It mostly showed that her base at the time was broad.
Also another thing that isn’t mentioned is that back in 2020 for some reason, Harris had a higher favorability reason among Hispanics than Biden or Hillary in 2016. She was Obama 2008 levels. Now whether this is because she’s from California (most hispanic state) or because she’s an AG/DA I won’t really know but I think that’s a cool fact.
Anyways #HARRIS2028
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I have no problem with her running in the next primary. I don’t expect she will do well and I can’t see myself supporting her unless the other options are miserable.
OP–I like her and she killed it in her debate.
However if she had better handled the border–even just optically we might not be in this mess.
You’re probably not. On the other hand, I think it would be a strategic mistake. Regardless of how competent she is, which is a lot, there’s enough voters who simply won’t vote for woman not matter how much better she is then her competition. Add in her association with the Biden Presidency, and its economic problems, and I think she’d be a poison pill if she ran. Which is a shame, because I think she’d make fantastic President.
Yes! You are the only one who thinks that. But actually, obviously there are others who think that and I really like the thoughtfulness of this post. I’ll give it some consideration.
If I try to share ideas about every point you made, this would be a really complicated discussion about a lot of things. So I’ll just say one thing that is really important to me:
Harris would have been under a lot of pressure to have policies less favorable to israel. She would be hoping to avoid alienating the voters in hopes of winning a second term.
On the other hand, Trump at least theoretically is only allowed to serve one more term. So he can be pro-israel without having to compromise with badly educated, misguided victims of propaganda and disinformation who are on the blame Israel bandwagon.
For that reason, part of me, as horrifying as it is to say, is glad Trump won. I think it’s a test for the soul of humanity, or something melodramatic like that, I think this is the moral test of our times.
And I say that knowing most people in this subreddit will strongly disagree with me. I’m a left-leaning Irish american, and I’m pro-israel and I see this conflict as Israel against the entire Muslim world. The 22 states of the Arab league.
No hate at all toward any particular Muslim people, but Islam itself is inherently bigoted and supremacist and anti-jew and it’s supposed to make all of us unbelievers pay a f** a** tax for not thinking Muhammad was a real prophet. Screw that. Try to tell me what to do? Screw islam. They’re just trying to destroy israel. They never tried to have a state for Palestinian arabs. Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s apartheid.
If anyone wants to throw around ideas about this or debate about it, I’ll try to not be a dick.
I’m just saying, a very small part of me is glad Trump won because I’m glad about him being pro-israel. If you strongly disagree with that, I respect your point of view.
Yes. You are the only one.
I think that would be a horrendous mistake, but by all means let her enter the primaries where she’ll get obliterated.
I don’t think she’s a good candidate. She might have been great as president, but running for office is skillset on its own. When she ran in 2019 she was out by December, she didn’t even make it to the Iowa caucus. She has a great background, she was a senator, had her base in San Francisco, she should have been loaded up with cash. The reality is she didn’t impress the California high rollers or the average citizen, and they didn’t fund her. The ability to ‘shake hands and kiss babies’ and critical. I like her, but she don’t connect with people like Obama and Bill Clinton did. So, no, I don’t think she should run again. If she won the nomination I would certainly vote for her though.
No. You’re not the only one.
There are three of you who think she should run again. Three.
Three.
That’s it.
Yes, you are.
P.S. I liked her. People are not gonna vote for her.
She should RUN. Sure. Let’s get all the candidates in there and see who wins a good clean primary.
But no. She lost. To a giant piece of shit.
I hate saying it, but America votes for geriatric white guys. Although personally I despise this pattern and would love to have a young president again.
No. JD Vance also thinks she should.
I don’t think she’s a particularly strong candidate.
I think you are being overly dismissive of her losing against Trump and her primary performance in 2020 as indicators of how good of a candidate she would be. I don’t think any of the things she was associated with in 2024 are going to go away before 2028 and it’s not like she just failed to win the 2020 primary, she wasn’t even a strong contender. It’s not like she’s going to be able to do anything over the next 3-4 years to drastically alter her brand. A lot of people legitimately didn’t want Biden to run in 2024, but I’m incredibly skeptical he would have done massively worse than Harris had he remained on the ticket. Her “success” was just people really not wanting Trump to be back in power as much as anything she did personally. I think you’re right that a hardcore progressive would do worse than Harris, but that doesn’t mean Harris would do particularly good.
They should learn from their fucking mistakes and run a 40-50 year old straight white man with some god damn charisma 🤦🏽‍♂️
She should be doing town halls in districts she lost if she wants to be President. Bernie and AOC doing meetings while Republicans hide in the basement is brilliant. But I still think they’re too progressive to win the purple districts.
Pretty sure you are in a very small minority, at best. It would show incredible hubris for her to throw her hat in again after what happened last time. She couldn’t beat the second-worst candidate for President in living memory, and that’s why we are where we are.
All you need to know about how people feel about Kamala Harris is that Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi were very against giving her the nomination in 2024 because they don’t think she’s a good candidate.
If the two most prominent people in the democratic party don’t think you have it then it’s probably true.
If I were her I’d have the attitude of “if you didn’t appreciate at me then you don’t deserve me now.”
I’m fine with Harris despite being behind AOC right now. The whole corrupt PAC money behind Harris is something she should drop and denounce before she runs. I think she’d be better to serve in another position under AOC.
The only universe where she runs again and wins is if she already started campaigning RIGHT NOW the way Trump did when he lost to Biden. But then she has to really control the narrative especially now Trump is giving massive ammunition to dems 4 months into his presidency. The fact that she’s not doing that and is out of sight means she’s not the winning candidate.
There’s a moratorium on these statements. Check rule 4.
Maybe someone can start a /ihavesomethingtosaytoliberals subreddit.
“That isn’t a Harris issue that is a Democrat issue” almost EVERY single democrat senator/house member outperformed her. It’s a Harris issue. People just don’t like her, she doesn’t come off as authentic, had an overall weak campaign, and anyone tied to the Biden era simply should never run in national politics ever again full stop
I’m sure there are a few but it’s a bad choice.
As much as I do not like Obama for his policy I do admit he was a great speaker, he had that way of speaking that made people want to hear more. Even though he was full of it. But still he tried to connect to people. He was likeable.
Harris was not likeable, seriously. She was not, and that laugh of hers made you want to drive a pencil sown your ears so you do not want o hear her speak. She was not relatable. In fact her speeches sounded condescending, if you could understand her. Most of the time you could not because of her word salads. More importantly, she tried to erase her horrible past but could not. Nobody believed her on policy by the time she was done talking.
She’s a sellout.
She could have won if she stood for the working class. Look at the anger at the parasite billionaire class. Instead, she chose to ally herself with Mark Cuban and ditched all the good work of Lina Khan.
She is a bad candidate that stands for nothing.
I agree. She was a great candidate and she should try for a primary again. I’m not sure she’d win though.
It’s time Democrats realize that America is a racist sexist country. Whether we like it or not, there probably needs to be a white male figure head there. Scary thought I wonder how much pain the Republicans will have caused before we actually elect a female minority. With the way they Republicans are going we actually may find out in 3 1/2 years..
She probably should just from a pragmatic standpoint. There will be 10 or so candidates in the initial field and it’d be surprising if she wasn’t one of them.
After President Carter was destroyed, largely by Reagan’s dishonesty, and then Mondale and Dukakis were savaged as out of touch liberals, the Democratic Party moved to solidify support in the middle.
Although I supported her primary run in 2020, I think it’s clear the United States isn’t ready to elect a person of color, a woman, a non-straight, or a “socialist.”
We can continue to be “surprised” that the voters reject non-straight, non-white, non-male candidates or we can nominate a candidate they will seriously consider.
I’m accepting as fact the idea that our fellow voters will invent excuses (“her laugh”) rather than try to justify their unwillingness to vote for anyone who doesn’t comply with their very narrow expectations.
I like Kamala. She’s bright and energetic but seems to have zero instincts. Watching her be asked on the view as to what she would do “differently than Joe,” and she blew it. I understand loyalty, but it was set up for her more of a way to gently separate herself. “No, not that I can think of” is her answer?
She utterly destroyed Trump in that debate and I sure thought she had a good shot.
And then she lost.
I think she’s qualified, but I don’t know that she inspires people to get out and vote.
Only you and republicans. It’s a bad idea. Terrible actually.
Yes. You are the only one. Kamala was a bad choice.
I like her but with how high stakes are these days we need someone who has a better chance at winning next time.
I fully expect her to run in the primary. I probably wouldn’t vote for her over Walz, Pritzinger, AOC, Buttigiege, Shapiro, or many other primary potentials, though. Just about the only person who I expect to run who I’d prefer Harris over is Newsom.
Straight white male 2028