First let me say that I don’t think either should be shamed, but they have both been around for plenty of time at this point, and computers are used for way more things. Plus the cost barrier is lower, you can practice using it without leaving the house, there is no physical danger involved, you are much less likely to break it if you do something dumb, and it’s much less likely to become your problem if your coworkers are clueless about cars.
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can’t drive a car shame is only present in the US.
So yes to the rest of the world cast use a computer shame makes more sense than cant drive shame.
Tell me you’re from the US without telling me
I think this could become more true as the idea of regional offices fades in favor of remote work but most employees are still expected to make some appearance in the office. This is before you even get into the huge portion of employees who don’t use a computer at all in their daily jobs.
For as long as all of that’s true not being able to drive will be looked down upon more than not being computer literate (especially since you can do 99% of personal use on a smartphone rather than a computer).
I really can’t imagine a world where you get zero exposure to computers within the confines of a publicly available education. It’s pretty easy to imagine getting zero exposure to driving a car.
I mean computers are pretty much required, cars not so much. I can get around perfectly fine, year round on my bicycle (florida). Most people I know don’t even know I have a driver’s license. They just assume I don’t.
That said, lol I wouldn’t trust me on the road with a car. I got my license in 2006 (took driver’s ed in high school); but I haven’t driven since driver’s ed (2005; i wasn’t old enough for my license till 16; didn’t even have to take the driver’s exam; got a waiver to bypass it since i passed driver’s ed). So while I’ve renewed my license each time; idk why they still let me have a license. I learned to drive in a few months of driver’s ED and haven’t driven since (been 20 years now)
One of them is illegal to operate without a license.
Younger people don’t use computers for fun. Associated with a school tool. I can see proficientcy decreasing. All fun time is invested in phone not computer.
If you don’t count smart phones as computers, you no longer need a computer to live in the modern age.
Car shame only exists where a car is necessary to get around and it’s less shame and more of a “well, how do you expect get around.” Public transit is an important service, but rural communities do not have the density necessary to support it. When your county is only 1300 people over 400 square miles, the tax base just isn’t there to have a robust and speedy transit solution.
On the flip, it would be weird for someone in say San Francisco to get on you for not having access to a car.
Computer shame isn’t even computer shame, per se. You’re not expected to know how to fix them, just do basic office tasks on them. If you can navigate your streaming device or phone, there is no reason you can’t open word and make a document. In the 90s and earlier, it was all about being able to type. You’re taught this in school, if you get to adulthood and your WPM is 15…that’s on you.
Cars are ridiculously expensive and also dangerous as fuck.
Sorry I don’t want to spend half my entire fucking yearly salary on car related payments every year.
One of the most annoying for me was people who couldn’t figure out ATMs, and I still see them to this day.
Is this a typical debate? I haven’t heard of this dichotomy before.
You can’t blame me for not knowing how to drive when I come from a place where driving at a young age was both legally and economically restricted and now I’m putting effort on my learners to get a full licence
But tbh it has been pretty smooth to learn even if I have never driven in my life until that
Most people who can’t use a computer tend to be old people. When they were young they likely were intimidated by computers because they were far from being user friendly. As they got older, they were already set in their ways and didn’t see much value in learning the computer.
Most people I have met who don’t know how to drive are young and completely unaware of how expensive and time consuming their choice to not drive is. While I admit this is likely different in other cities, they seem to be addicted to using an Uber and spend far more on ride sharing than the total cost of ownership of a modest vehicle.
Both situations come from being unaware of the benefits of these devices and resistant to learning about them.
Whatever the reason of shame exists it’s probably well deserved.
Cars are designed to be intuitive over function. Computers have only very recently shifted in this direction. And many won’t even call them computers any more if this goes to far. Ie tablets.
There is very little you can intuit when it comes to using a computer vs a car. Take the mouse for example, there is nothing in our evolution or daily life that interests the way a mouse does with a cursor on a screen. Clicking vs double clicking, right vs left click all of it has to be taught.
Turn wheel right car goes right makes sense. Move mouse away cursor goes up does not.
And this is just the very basic human interface device of the mouse.
All of my colleagues can ‘use’ a computer. But for the vast majority that use is limited.
And I’m cool with that. Gives me job security as the only tech savvy manager in the department.
Can’t drive a car – a little odd, but whatever
Can’t use a computer – what rock have you been living under
Computers are everywhere, but people still struggle with the most basic interfaces somehow.
You need to use a car for more jobs than you need to use a computer
Depends on location. Outside of major cities, cars are necessities to survive
Well some people, like me, don’t have a choice when it comes to driving. I literally cannot pass the eye test. Computers on the other hand don’t require a license to operate.
What?
other way around. not being able to drive a car is way less shameful than being unable to use a computer.
I don’t drive because of a hidden disability. I would if I could.
“So you got a DUI, huh?” No the fuck I didn’t. I’ve gotten that more times than I could ever count. And they never feel any shame either. They just look at me like I’m some weirdo making up weird shit when I tell them the truth.
I’ve gotten more shit for that than I have for my relative ineptitude with computers.