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there are plenty of non god like entity beings who are really powerful and can beat the top lanterns of the various spectrums
Kryptonians have been shown to wreck Lanterns on occasion. Brute force enough to break constructs. Super Speed to move faster than Lantern thought.
Burning Martians are pretty OP. The ring doesn’t block their mind control. John Stewart had to use his ring to make his brain think in like the first recorded language of the universe to block a Burning Martians mind control, and his brain could only use that technique for seconds
“potentially powerful”, not sure what the max strength of any construct could be, if it’s infinite or not.
Given how often lanterns lose, even in 1 on 1s, even with their supposed best users with the rings… I think they have a very good marketing department. Sure, it’s a simple way to go from “mortal” to “cosmic power house”, but beyond that, being Kryptonian (with yellow sun) generally trumps it.
New Gods, or just Gods in General. They have a code for Deicide 1011. Also Dominators are a threar. Or Khunds. Or Daxamites, The Reach. Maybe Thanagarian Fleet.
The green lantern ring has limited energy before it needs to return to the battery to recharge. Throughout the comics, Hal Jordan was continually losing encounters because he fell to 0% at a bad time.
A Full Potential White Lantern, probably yes. However all Lanterns (even White) are both powered and limited by their reliance on their respective ring’s emotional input. Eventually, you can absolutely destroy a Green Lantern’s Willpower, or a Blue Lantern’s Hope.
Rings are crazy powerful but lacking in a lot of things, like automatic acting. They also run out of power fast.
When a Lantern wielder takes over things they end up having to limit themselves to a small area, like no more than one planet, because they also constantly be aware of and react to things over large distances. We see Sinestro do this with his home world and get smacked down for it.
Things like Starro or the Brainiac AI have managed to take over entire solar systems and threaten while galaxies. The Green Lantern of Apokolips is basically a homeless vagrant who can’t escape.
Pulling from an old post, I’ve always wondered about the “anything the wearer wills” power of the Green Lanterns. The ring runs off of willpower, but can the ring work in a “will fulfillment” capacity rather than a “I am willing this specific construct to materialize from the ring and do this certain thing”?
For example – Firestorm with a GL ring. Knowing science and physics, could he will time to slow down? That’s not something that can appear as a green construct from the ring, but he is willing it to happen and knows how time works.
Are lantern rings limited to constructs? Or can they be used as “wish fulfillment” if the wearer has the mindset for it?
If it is “wish fulfillment” based, then the problem isn’t the ring, it’s the ring bearer’s intelligence/will that’s the limitation. Darkseid with a GL ring would be a nightmare.
So. There’s two eras of Lantern rings, really. There’s the post-Rebirth ones, which are the ones that everyone’s familiar with now, and I’d rate them highly.
And then there’s the far more powerful pre-Emerald Twilight power rings. Their power rings did anything they could imagine as long as they could will it into being. Most of these displays come from Hal Jordan, but there’s plenty of other Green Lanterns who have done some wild things.
The wild shit I’m talking about are things like reversing and speeding up evolutionary processes, changing the biology of a group at one time, mind manipulation, mindwiping, telepathic communication, time travel, turning one form of matter into another entirely… Some Lanterns showed themselves capable of doing things like casually cutting a planet in half and swapping one half with half of another planet. Without a single casualty. They could reduce people into digital data. They can survive black holes and create wormholes across the galaxy or to other dimensions. Moving planets is a matter of momentary strain. Hal once accidentally shrunk the Earth to subatomic sizes. They can teleport themselves and others. They can make themselves, or others, intangible.
Things like surviving a nuke weren’t impressive. Hell, Hal himself once shrunk a nuclear explosion in progress to the size of a small, not particularly impressive firecracker. These were rings that protected their wearers from all mortal harm with such strength that Tomar Re once took an unexpected exploding star to the face and was only knocked out for a short period of time, then woke up temporarily blind. He regained his eyesight within 12 hours. Other Lanterns have been able to contain supernovas. Kyle’s, while the inferior model, once contained multiple black holes.
The rings, quite simply, had infinite energy for 24 hours. After Emerald Twilight, they based future power rings off of Kyle Rayner’s, and it was a huge downgrade in all matters but one: They could effect (affect?) the color yellow now. That was the sole weakness of the pre-Twilight power rings, that they’d slide off of anything yellow harmlessly. The lack of a 24 hour time limit is also held up as an advantage, but given the difference between infinite energy and having a finite supply of anything, I’d take the time limit. Especially since it had ‘reserve energy’ left behind that was meant to power the ring’s AI and its ability to protect the wielder from all mortal harm.
If we’re ignoring the god-like entities, up to and including the New Gods, there are very few beings who’d rate above one of the previous Green Lanterns. They could even force the respect of a Silver Age Kryptonian. I cannot underline how literal “anything they can imagine” was, as long as they had the willpower to make it happen.
Well, no, not really. All lanterns have a hard cap that is their emotional charge. With enough stress and damage, you can run them dry of things like willpower, hope, or even fear. Aside from reality warper types, they probably do have the most potentially versatile weapon though.
There are a lot of beings that generally out class lanterns though. Anything Kryptonian tier and above is probably going to win a 1v1, so daxamites, martians, lobo, new gods, etc. There’s actually a lot out there as the lanterns are pretty much always pressed in one direction with not enough resources.
Also keep in mind that even if someone has almost boundless emotional energy, those rings tend to run out of power at the worst moment. Odd that the guardians still haven’t patched that, by now the testing should be more rigorous then you just fuse with a sub lantern permanently or something.
Theoretically maybe. Practically usually no because they are often up against Kryptonian type enemies.
Lanterns often lose matchups and there are species that outright overpower them consistently (Yellow Sun Kryptonians, Martians, maybe even Daxamites) but a Lantern Ring is probably the best way to go from a nobody to a cosmic powerhouse and contender. Like it should be stated Hal Jordan and the Earth Lanterns have at least challenged Superman on occasion. And they are at the end of the day regular humans. So the Rings go a long way to boosting power.
There is also a lot of variation on the hard limit of the raw power/charge of a ring. Lanterns vary in power both within and across the different corps. Someone like Larfleeze (whos basically an entire corps in one person and living power battery) is vastly more powerful than the average Green Lantern.
I would say Martians and Kryptonians take the 2nd spot after the gods and god like entities (Imps, Monitors etc).
In theory, but the problem with that is that when the rings do go into overdrive, they become extremely brittle. If a Lantern does in fact achieve something like “Infinite willpower” without a Blue Lantern around, that Lantern is either about to burst the ring into malfunctioning or about to become a Godlike being, like John, who no longer needs a ring to attune to the spectrum.
But even then, John can’t be 100% all the time. Having willpower is both a passive and an active thing, you can falter, you can be distracted, you can be beaten by overwhelming force applied too fast.
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Fifth dimensional imps would be the most powerful beings in DC that aren’t gods.
there are plenty of non god like entity beings who are really powerful and can beat the top lanterns of the various spectrums
Kryptonians have been shown to wreck Lanterns on occasion. Brute force enough to break constructs. Super Speed to move faster than Lantern thought.
Burning Martians are pretty OP. The ring doesn’t block their mind control. John Stewart had to use his ring to make his brain think in like the first recorded language of the universe to block a Burning Martians mind control, and his brain could only use that technique for seconds
“potentially powerful”, not sure what the max strength of any construct could be, if it’s infinite or not.
Given how often lanterns lose, even in 1 on 1s, even with their supposed best users with the rings… I think they have a very good marketing department. Sure, it’s a simple way to go from “mortal” to “cosmic power house”, but beyond that, being Kryptonian (with yellow sun) generally trumps it.
New Gods, or just Gods in General. They have a code for Deicide 1011. Also Dominators are a threar. Or Khunds. Or Daxamites, The Reach. Maybe Thanagarian Fleet.
The green lantern ring has limited energy before it needs to return to the battery to recharge. Throughout the comics, Hal Jordan was continually losing encounters because he fell to 0% at a bad time.
A Full Potential White Lantern, probably yes. However all Lanterns (even White) are both powered and limited by their reliance on their respective ring’s emotional input. Eventually, you can absolutely destroy a Green Lantern’s Willpower, or a Blue Lantern’s Hope.
Just like on your phone, a lantern’s battery life is pretty shitty. I would have to go with White Martians.
Enlightened Lanterns (Lord Marvolo) are top tier almost below gods. Now, I’m guessing you are clasifyin Maltusians as Godlike?
Rings are crazy powerful but lacking in a lot of things, like automatic acting. They also run out of power fast.
When a Lantern wielder takes over things they end up having to limit themselves to a small area, like no more than one planet, because they also constantly be aware of and react to things over large distances. We see Sinestro do this with his home world and get smacked down for it.
Things like Starro or the Brainiac AI have managed to take over entire solar systems and threaten while galaxies. The Green Lantern of Apokolips is basically a homeless vagrant who can’t escape.
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Pulling from an old post, I’ve always wondered about the “anything the wearer wills” power of the Green Lanterns. The ring runs off of willpower, but can the ring work in a “will fulfillment” capacity rather than a “I am willing this specific construct to materialize from the ring and do this certain thing”?
For example – Firestorm with a GL ring. Knowing science and physics, could he will time to slow down? That’s not something that can appear as a green construct from the ring, but he is willing it to happen and knows how time works.
Are lantern rings limited to constructs? Or can they be used as “wish fulfillment” if the wearer has the mindset for it?
If it is “wish fulfillment” based, then the problem isn’t the ring, it’s the ring bearer’s intelligence/will that’s the limitation. Darkseid with a GL ring would be a nightmare.
So. There’s two eras of Lantern rings, really. There’s the post-Rebirth ones, which are the ones that everyone’s familiar with now, and I’d rate them highly.
And then there’s the far more powerful pre-Emerald Twilight power rings. Their power rings did anything they could imagine as long as they could will it into being. Most of these displays come from Hal Jordan, but there’s plenty of other Green Lanterns who have done some wild things.
The wild shit I’m talking about are things like reversing and speeding up evolutionary processes, changing the biology of a group at one time, mind manipulation, mindwiping, telepathic communication, time travel, turning one form of matter into another entirely… Some Lanterns showed themselves capable of doing things like casually cutting a planet in half and swapping one half with half of another planet. Without a single casualty. They could reduce people into digital data. They can survive black holes and create wormholes across the galaxy or to other dimensions. Moving planets is a matter of momentary strain. Hal once accidentally shrunk the Earth to subatomic sizes. They can teleport themselves and others. They can make themselves, or others, intangible.
Things like surviving a nuke weren’t impressive. Hell, Hal himself once shrunk a nuclear explosion in progress to the size of a small, not particularly impressive firecracker. These were rings that protected their wearers from all mortal harm with such strength that Tomar Re once took an unexpected exploding star to the face and was only knocked out for a short period of time, then woke up temporarily blind. He regained his eyesight within 12 hours. Other Lanterns have been able to contain supernovas. Kyle’s, while the inferior model, once contained multiple black holes.
The rings, quite simply, had infinite energy for 24 hours. After Emerald Twilight, they based future power rings off of Kyle Rayner’s, and it was a huge downgrade in all matters but one: They could effect (affect?) the color yellow now. That was the sole weakness of the pre-Twilight power rings, that they’d slide off of anything yellow harmlessly. The lack of a 24 hour time limit is also held up as an advantage, but given the difference between infinite energy and having a finite supply of anything, I’d take the time limit. Especially since it had ‘reserve energy’ left behind that was meant to power the ring’s AI and its ability to protect the wielder from all mortal harm.
If we’re ignoring the god-like entities, up to and including the New Gods, there are very few beings who’d rate above one of the previous Green Lanterns. They could even force the respect of a Silver Age Kryptonian. I cannot underline how literal “anything they can imagine” was, as long as they had the willpower to make it happen.
Well, no, not really. All lanterns have a hard cap that is their emotional charge. With enough stress and damage, you can run them dry of things like willpower, hope, or even fear. Aside from reality warper types, they probably do have the most potentially versatile weapon though.
There are a lot of beings that generally out class lanterns though. Anything Kryptonian tier and above is probably going to win a 1v1, so daxamites, martians, lobo, new gods, etc. There’s actually a lot out there as the lanterns are pretty much always pressed in one direction with not enough resources.
Also keep in mind that even if someone has almost boundless emotional energy, those rings tend to run out of power at the worst moment. Odd that the guardians still haven’t patched that, by now the testing should be more rigorous then you just fuse with a sub lantern permanently or something.
Superboy Prime pulls off plenty of god-like feats as long as they are around punching. He’s not connected to any divine or greater cosmic power.
They can be but it’s hard. most lanterns aren’t the best of the best.
Theoretically maybe. Practically usually no because they are often up against Kryptonian type enemies.
Lanterns often lose matchups and there are species that outright overpower them consistently (Yellow Sun Kryptonians, Martians, maybe even Daxamites) but a Lantern Ring is probably the best way to go from a nobody to a cosmic powerhouse and contender. Like it should be stated Hal Jordan and the Earth Lanterns have at least challenged Superman on occasion. And they are at the end of the day regular humans. So the Rings go a long way to boosting power.
There is also a lot of variation on the hard limit of the raw power/charge of a ring. Lanterns vary in power both within and across the different corps. Someone like Larfleeze (whos basically an entire corps in one person and living power battery) is vastly more powerful than the average Green Lantern.
I would say Martians and Kryptonians take the 2nd spot after the gods and god like entities (Imps, Monitors etc).
In theory, but the problem with that is that when the rings do go into overdrive, they become extremely brittle. If a Lantern does in fact achieve something like “Infinite willpower” without a Blue Lantern around, that Lantern is either about to burst the ring into malfunctioning or about to become a Godlike being, like John, who no longer needs a ring to attune to the spectrum.
But even then, John can’t be 100% all the time. Having willpower is both a passive and an active thing, you can falter, you can be distracted, you can be beaten by overwhelming force applied too fast.