I think there’s def some fishy things about it. How the hell did the Secret Service let some dude with a rifle get anywhere near that stage? Why did they let him stand up and pump his fist without knowing if the threat was eliminated? The guy’s a vindictive son of a bitch. Other than that, “painting” in the WH, how has he not brought it up constantly to combat Democrats or the left? Idunno, I’m not willing to go full-on conspiracy theorist without some concrete evidence, but it sure doesn’t feel all that genuine at face value.
I just wouldn’t put it past a guy who cheats at life, cheats on his wife, cheats at golf, claims everyone else is cheating while being a bold-faced cheat and liar.
Honestly, with how much he complains about “stolen elections” don’t you think he probably tried to steal it one way or another?
It’s what I think a lot. So much happens and people pick sides and I’m like – I have no idea. I wasn’t there. Like there are things happening in my
HOA where I don’t have all the facts, but somehow people have strong opinions about complicated topics
I don’t think he was hit by bullet, but was accidentally injured by the secret service member…. And then he went with the story that he was hit, and MAGA beleived it.
But the dude that tried to kill him, because he “let him down”… Oh yeah, that was very real. He was just not as good of shot as he thought.
The whole thing was fishy, it was perfect timing. The only thing that makes me doubt it is the way he hadn’t turned his head milliseconds before he woulda been shot.
It was a troubled man who was determined to assassinate someone. All the information we have shows that he looked at schedules for multiple politicians, including Trump and Biden and Trump happened to be a “target of opportunity”.
We are not going to pull a Facebook tier like conspiracy theory here. It was not fake. Any other notion that entertains otherwise should not be taken seriously.
It was real, but he wasn’t hit. It was a piece of glass or a holster scrape.
The consensus is that it wasn’t possible to be even grazed with that caliber and not have any scaring or notable injury after. He was healed up within days.
Here’s video of Trump staffers directing photographers snd flag being positioned while his SS stalls…violating all security Protocols.
A bullet close enough to draw blood would do far more damage than that. And then standing there posing for pictures? Too many outliers for it to be a typical response
Ehh its hard to say, but what i will say is: Trump has gone after every democrat and liberal media outlet about anything he doesn’t agree with. Banned reporters and publications that dont pander to his narrative, and is constantly banging the Hilary/Obama/Biden drum – and yet never seems to have anything to say about the person that “tried to kill him”? Be real.
Noone as arrogant and rabidly egotistical as DJT would just let that slide.
No. People have reviewed the footage and he’s bleeding before anyone approaches him. It nicked his ear. Anybody who has ever nicked their ear, even with a small neck while shaving can tell you how profusely an ear can bleed.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I can’t think of a single one I believe in.
I don’t know. It was a roughly 400 ft shot. I’m a fun enthusiast. It’s definitely possible to miss at that range. But if you’ve practiced at all it would be an easy shot.
If homeboy went through all this trouble and knew he was going to give his life? He could have spent a couple hundred bucks on an LPVO and made it an easy, automatic shot.
It’s possible he was aiming for the “money shot,” like a head shot, instead of center mass. The natural accuracy variation of a rifle would make that harder.
Then you get into Trump’s ear. I don’t think he was shot. I think he heard the supersonic crackle of the round, dove, and scraped his ear either on the ground or a secret service guys belt.
I don’t think it was entirely a setup but I think we’re being lied to about it.
No, I don’t think it was fake, but I do believe it was planned, or at least allowed to happen, by a powerful, well-connected conservative.
It’s exactly what I would have done if I were a sociopathic, high-level Republican. Even if that kid had by some miracle hit his target, it would have been an absolute win for Republicans either way. And how the fuck does a guy waltz right through the perimeter with a rifle?
I wanna know how they convinced that shooter to willingly sacrifice himself to being shot by the snioers. Meanwhile, questions about how his ear miraculously healed without a visible nick are going unasked. The presence of ‘blood’ can be created any number of ways.
No, I think a nutter tried to take a shot at Donald Trump intending to kill him. The motive probably can’t be discerned for certain, but it was probably one of those kooks who equated high-profile violence with fame.
I love the implication that someone faking an assassination attempt to garner sympathy to win a presidential election, would draw the line at killing a person.
No! But I know people who do. Why do I think it was real?
People died
Why would they want to make the Secret Service look bad?
Trump and his supporters pre-47 presidency wouldn’t be capable of carrying off a conspiracy this sophisticated, which would require so many people and a lot of coordinated action.
No, I don’t think it was fake but I don’t think a bullet actually struck Trump either. My bet is that the initial reports were accurate and he was hit by glass/shrapnel but they knew being grazed by a bullet was a better story and quashed the forensics/medical report. If he was actually grazed by a bullet, fine. But they sure seemed keen on cleaning up the narrative immediately.
I think it was weird that the SS didn’t spot the shooter but I also think it makes sense that Trump always seems only willing to surround himself with the least competent people possible.
As best as i understood, it sounded like the shooter was certainly right wing but the shooting was one of opportunity more so than political. He just wanted to make a name for himself or an impact on history no matter who the most convenient target would’ve been.
I think it was fake in that it was organized by Trump and his henchman. Two people were killed and that was a sacrifice Trump was willing to make. Every petty slight Trump has ever perceived is the source of endless whining and crying by him. How is it possible that one actually legitimate grievance, we never hear a peep from him? Then there are all the before and after unlikely security errors made by his detail. Then there is the shooter being a rabid right-winger… Let us not forget about the magical healing ear that left no scars.
No, and it’s a bit depressing watching so many on the left fall down the conspiratorial rabbit hole on this one. We might not be as bad as the right when it comes to this stuff, but still plenty that are susceptible.
Something is off about the whole thing. Within a matter of days there was not even a scar on his ear. No way is that possible. And there is strict protocol for situations like that. He wouldn’t have been allowed to stand up the way he did. None of it makes sense.
I think it could have been staged. A guy actually died? Maybe. That could have been staged too. I certainly wouldn’t put it past Trump. I mean would you? That whole photo op looked super staged. Is it impossible to have been real? No. I can’t rule that out definitively. But I think there’s good enough reason to be suspect of it. Is Trump really a guy who almost dies, and then says “FIGHT!” No, he’s really not. The Secret Service doesn’t let him do it either. The whole thing reeks a little.
Tell me you would put this past Trump and Republicans to fake. Because I can’t. Lying is their bread and butter. I can’t trust them on anything.
I’m sus of how horrendously incompetent the secret service were to allow the shooter to get there, but on the balance of things, no.
1 – Trump isn’t that brave, he was too much of a coward to go to Vietnam when he was drafted so there’s no way he’s allowing himself to get shot in the ear willingly
2 – They wouldn’t have used a Republican to conduct the shooting if it were staged.
I did not think it was fake at the time because real people died. And hitting just the ear without Trump moving just wrong was way too dangerous. He wasn’t sitting perfectly still at the time it happened.
But recently I’ve been watching those videos of camera people being moved around to take the picture of him pumping his fist (or whatever he did) and hearing people talk about how security would not have acted like that and even had let him stop and create that little scene.
Now I feel suspicious. I am not convinced it was fake. Nor am I convinced it was totally real. I am open to receiving more information from either perspective. Or a third perspective.
What surprises me the most is that the Secret Service didn’t immediately whisk him off stage. Instead, they let him stay long enough to pump his fist a few times and show the blood on his ear.
The Secret Service didn’t do that at a somewhat similar event during his first term (maybe a rally). That time Secret Service whisked him off the stage in about one second. And he very willingly went. He also had a look unbridled fear during the that time. He was pretty calm at the more recent event.
But I don’t know. I still think there is a better chance that the attempt on his life was not planned. However, I wouldn’t be shocked if it were made public that the event was planned.
No, but the wound on Trump’s ear wasn’t from a bullet, it was from him ducking down and hitting the side of his head on the dais. Painful as fuck, I’m sure, but not the “a bullet creased my ear” hyperbole either.
no, but i believe they took political advantage of the situation immediately…i cant get past the lack of injury even though Trump was supposedly injured.
There is zero evidence that is was fake, and a LOT of evidence that it was real. I don;’t get the people who say it was fake. Something doesn’t become fake just because that fits your narrative better.
Something being suspicious doesn’t make it fake. That’s such baloney.
Do you really believe the man afraid of eagles, dogs, and showing his taxes, would actually stick around if it was real? For one they would have to change his diapers or get used to the smell. Could the secret services really be that bad that they couldn’t spot a man with a gun sprawled across a roof, who just happened to be filmed. Also have you ever seen anyone wear a bandage like an ear hat? No way was it applied by a credible doctor or nurse.
No, I think people love to look for conspiracies. I think he was barely nicked with the bullet or hit by shrapnel and he wishes he had a bigger wound to show off. the size of the bandage he was sporting at (I think) the RNC was ridiculous.
I’m not gonna downplay his bravery in that moment, dude got shot at, I just hate that he got a martyr moment because – of course – he milked the shit out of it and the pic was a good look for him.
What gets me is the lack of scar/ missing part of the ear from a bullet wound. I scratched my face with a tree branch and have a permanent scar. I had my ears pierced decades ago and they are scarred. Trump doesn’t show the close up of it? He loves to show how strong he is. Show off that battle wound. Something doesn’t add up.
Not fake. Rather a powerful organisation helped point the would he assassin to opportunities. May have had him hypnotised as useful idiot for years, just in case. It took tremendous hubris and it was oddly powerful in finding a hiatus in security.
Faked no? I think it’s odd we still don’t know anything about the shooter, how he’s was radicalized so much to the point of attempting to kill the president but has no online footprint is extremely odd…
I don’t think it was fake but it’s definitely odd. Because less than a few weeks later it was totally ignored by both sides. But I’ll also say that if it was fake I could totally see that and I can see how and why it was done. As for OPs question about someone actually dying: this is the most plausible part of it being faked. Trump once said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and none of his supporters would be upset so is it really hard to think one of the more unhinged MAGAts wouldn’t sacrifice their life for the guy?
I do whenever I’m around Republicans who live conspiracy theories.
I dont actually, but I cant put together a much stronger argument for Trump faked it than they can for most of their bullshit and give reached the point where I am sick of doing a one sided good faith discussion so owning jist troll them.
I also tell them I cant wait to vote for AOC “just to own the cons, and for the memes.”
I dont actually make my decisions that way, but thats the level of discourse that they warrant.
I’m not going to say it was faked, but I can’t rule out the possibility. That an innocent bystander was killed doesn’t impact people that say empathy is a weakness. I don’t remember any outpouring of grief for the family that lost a father. And it is well known that an assonation attempt will boost a candidate’s support, look at Reagan. And then a second failed attempt s few weeks later? And both of them by solid Republicans. No, I can’t rule it out.
Yes, a man died. Does anyone believe that amoral politicians care who lives or dies so long as they stay in office?
There are any number of anomalies…
The would-be assassin just walked up a conveniently placed ladder with a rifle. Secret service, local police, et al never noticed this? Meanwhile, bystanders and police noticed him on the roof. Nothing was done.
Then the miracle ear. Within days the Felon was photographed with zero indications of any wound. To this day there is no scar, no anything. Clearly, he was not wounded by a bullet despite the MSM presenting that piece of propaganda as if it were true.
The Secret service allowed the Felon to rise up and strike a pose during an active shooting event while photographers were literally ushered into the foreground to get photos of the heroic, defiant President.
Whether it was ‘staged’ or not, there are too many questions about this event that need to be answered.
I am usually the last one to make claims like that but it LOOKED fake as I watched it in real time, and it looks even more fake from all these other angles. Those agents looked and behaved like straight up actors. The sunglasses, the weird gun handling, the photo op, no scar, not a single photo of the “wound” until it magically healed, no info of the shooter, and knowing what a POS conman he is I wouldn’t be surprised whatsoever.
I’m certainly open to the idea. The fact that a guy died means nothing to my view on this matter.
As to why, there’s just a lot of strange things and unanswered questions regarding it, and the timing for it couldn’t have been more perfect.
The shooter was a Republican and there’s been almost no new information on him to come out since. The whole nicking Trump’s ear thing just seems too good to be true. Especially with the caliber of the bullet, the short period of time that he wore a bandage, and then no mark left behind at all. Trump spent years around the pro wrestling circuit. He certainly knows how to hide a razor blade and nick himself for maximum blood. He also hasn’t hardly mentioned it since, which is very out of character for a guy who loves nothing more than boasting about how great he is at everything. Also, I think that I’ve seen two different videos of a loud pop going off when Trump was on stage, and he reacted totally differently. His fist and “Fight” chant with the picture came off as totally planned. There were also numerous attendees who saw this kid walking to the roof with the gun and notified law enforcement and secret service ahead of time. I just find it hard to believe that he got as far as he did with that big heads up that they got.
But, also, in all honesty, I think it’s almost a moot point to talk about it now. Even if faked, the damage is done and any evidence most likely gone. Even if, say, a Secret Service agent or Trump campaign official came forward with testimony that it was faked, there’d be no hard proof and Trump and co. would just call them a liar.
Seeing as how there’s nothing but scandals when it comes to this administration, I just leave the whole assassination conversation out of my debates. There’s no proof of anything, and likely never will be.
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I think there’s def some fishy things about it. How the hell did the Secret Service let some dude with a rifle get anywhere near that stage? Why did they let him stand up and pump his fist without knowing if the threat was eliminated? The guy’s a vindictive son of a bitch. Other than that, “painting” in the WH, how has he not brought it up constantly to combat Democrats or the left? Idunno, I’m not willing to go full-on conspiracy theorist without some concrete evidence, but it sure doesn’t feel all that genuine at face value.
I don’t know if it was fake.
I just wouldn’t put it past a guy who cheats at life, cheats on his wife, cheats at golf, claims everyone else is cheating while being a bold-faced cheat and liar.
Honestly, with how much he complains about “stolen elections” don’t you think he probably tried to steal it one way or another?
Idk how I would know.
It’s what I think a lot. So much happens and people pick sides and I’m like – I have no idea. I wasn’t there. Like there are things happening in my
HOA where I don’t have all the facts, but somehow people have strong opinions about complicated topics
I think the attempt was real.
I don’t think he was hit by bullet, but was accidentally injured by the secret service member…. And then he went with the story that he was hit, and MAGA beleived it.
But the dude that tried to kill him, because he “let him down”… Oh yeah, that was very real. He was just not as good of shot as he thought.
Eh could be.
The whole thing was fishy, it was perfect timing. The only thing that makes me doubt it is the way he hadn’t turned his head milliseconds before he woulda been shot.
So likely not but I’m open to it.
No I don’t think it was fake.
It was a troubled man who was determined to assassinate someone. All the information we have shows that he looked at schedules for multiple politicians, including Trump and Biden and Trump happened to be a “target of opportunity”.
No
We are not going to pull a Facebook tier like conspiracy theory here. It was not fake. Any other notion that entertains otherwise should not be taken seriously.
No
No, I don’t think the blood was from the bullet though
Attempt was real. Trumps claim that the bullet hit him are BS. He got grazed by some debris from where it actually hit.
100%
No, it was definitely real.
No
It was real, but he wasn’t hit. It was a piece of glass or a holster scrape.
The consensus is that it wasn’t possible to be even grazed with that caliber and not have any scaring or notable injury after. He was healed up within days.
Here’s video of Trump staffers directing photographers snd flag being positioned while his SS stalls…violating all security Protocols.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DMJ6X8Yty5b/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
Fake? No.
Staged? Yes.
A bullet close enough to draw blood would do far more damage than that. And then standing there posing for pictures? Too many outliers for it to be a typical response
Yes, it was fake. He had no scar on his ear afterwards. He’s antichrist.
no.
I havent seen compelling evidence that has convinced me that it was staged.
No
No.
I don’t think it was fake.
I do think there’s something odd about it.
I don’t think it was fake. I think that the kid was pathetically terrible in his attempt.
No. In order to stage something like that Trump would have to read a script, follow directions and allow someone else to be the center of attention.
No.
Ehh its hard to say, but what i will say is: Trump has gone after every democrat and liberal media outlet about anything he doesn’t agree with. Banned reporters and publications that dont pander to his narrative, and is constantly banging the Hilary/Obama/Biden drum – and yet never seems to have anything to say about the person that “tried to kill him”? Be real.
Noone as arrogant and rabidly egotistical as DJT would just let that slide.
I think it’s very possible that the Trump team had a pre-planned strategy for a near-miss assassination attempt.
But the attempt itself was not fake or orchestrated.
No. People have reviewed the footage and he’s bleeding before anyone approaches him. It nicked his ear. Anybody who has ever nicked their ear, even with a small neck while shaving can tell you how profusely an ear can bleed.
Lotta blood for a graze and cartilage doesn’t grow back.
No. I think there was gross incompetence on the part of the secret service.
Man. I don’t know.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist. I can’t think of a single one I believe in.
I don’t know. It was a roughly 400 ft shot. I’m a fun enthusiast. It’s definitely possible to miss at that range. But if you’ve practiced at all it would be an easy shot.
If homeboy went through all this trouble and knew he was going to give his life? He could have spent a couple hundred bucks on an LPVO and made it an easy, automatic shot.
It’s possible he was aiming for the “money shot,” like a head shot, instead of center mass. The natural accuracy variation of a rifle would make that harder.
Then you get into Trump’s ear. I don’t think he was shot. I think he heard the supersonic crackle of the round, dove, and scraped his ear either on the ground or a secret service guys belt.
I don’t think it was entirely a setup but I think we’re being lied to about it.
No, I don’t think it was fake, but I do believe it was planned, or at least allowed to happen, by a powerful, well-connected conservative.
It’s exactly what I would have done if I were a sociopathic, high-level Republican. Even if that kid had by some miracle hit his target, it would have been an absolute win for Republicans either way. And how the fuck does a guy waltz right through the perimeter with a rifle?
Absolutely
I wanna know how they convinced that shooter to willingly sacrifice himself to being shot by the snioers. Meanwhile, questions about how his ear miraculously healed without a visible nick are going unasked. The presence of ‘blood’ can be created any number of ways.
No, I think a nutter tried to take a shot at Donald Trump intending to kill him. The motive probably can’t be discerned for certain, but it was probably one of those kooks who equated high-profile violence with fame.
No, but I also don’t care either way.
I love the implication that someone faking an assassination attempt to garner sympathy to win a presidential election, would draw the line at killing a person.
No
No! But I know people who do. Why do I think it was real?
No, I don’t think it was fake but I don’t think a bullet actually struck Trump either. My bet is that the initial reports were accurate and he was hit by glass/shrapnel but they knew being grazed by a bullet was a better story and quashed the forensics/medical report. If he was actually grazed by a bullet, fine. But they sure seemed keen on cleaning up the narrative immediately.
I think it was weird that the SS didn’t spot the shooter but I also think it makes sense that Trump always seems only willing to surround himself with the least competent people possible.
As best as i understood, it sounded like the shooter was certainly right wing but the shooting was one of opportunity more so than political. He just wanted to make a name for himself or an impact on history no matter who the most convenient target would’ve been.
It was real but something was fishy about it
I think it was fake in that it was organized by Trump and his henchman. Two people were killed and that was a sacrifice Trump was willing to make. Every petty slight Trump has ever perceived is the source of endless whining and crying by him. How is it possible that one actually legitimate grievance, we never hear a peep from him? Then there are all the before and after unlikely security errors made by his detail. Then there is the shooter being a rabid right-winger… Let us not forget about the magical healing ear that left no scars.
No, and it’s a bit depressing watching so many on the left fall down the conspiratorial rabbit hole on this one. We might not be as bad as the right when it comes to this stuff, but still plenty that are susceptible.
I don’t think it was fake.
I think the people who are sure it was fake, are usually extremists who are generally prone to conspiracy thinking.
Something not adding up
One guy died. But the felon wasn’t hit at all.
Something is off about the whole thing. Within a matter of days there was not even a scar on his ear. No way is that possible. And there is strict protocol for situations like that. He wouldn’t have been allowed to stand up the way he did. None of it makes sense.
I think it could have been staged. A guy actually died? Maybe. That could have been staged too. I certainly wouldn’t put it past Trump. I mean would you? That whole photo op looked super staged. Is it impossible to have been real? No. I can’t rule that out definitively. But I think there’s good enough reason to be suspect of it. Is Trump really a guy who almost dies, and then says “FIGHT!” No, he’s really not. The Secret Service doesn’t let him do it either. The whole thing reeks a little.
Tell me you would put this past Trump and Republicans to fake. Because I can’t. Lying is their bread and butter. I can’t trust them on anything.
There was a shot and a guy died. That is true. The rest is just weird.
I’m sus of how horrendously incompetent the secret service were to allow the shooter to get there, but on the balance of things, no.
1 – Trump isn’t that brave, he was too much of a coward to go to Vietnam when he was drafted so there’s no way he’s allowing himself to get shot in the ear willingly
2 – They wouldn’t have used a Republican to conduct the shooting if it were staged.
I did not think it was fake at the time because real people died. And hitting just the ear without Trump moving just wrong was way too dangerous. He wasn’t sitting perfectly still at the time it happened.
But recently I’ve been watching those videos of camera people being moved around to take the picture of him pumping his fist (or whatever he did) and hearing people talk about how security would not have acted like that and even had let him stop and create that little scene.
Now I feel suspicious. I am not convinced it was fake. Nor am I convinced it was totally real. I am open to receiving more information from either perspective. Or a third perspective.
Unsure.
Yes. The end. I don’t have to justify my beliefs to you.
No, this country has a huge problem with guns and mass shootings. I think the simple answer is correct, some kind tried to shoot Trump.
No
No.
What surprises me the most is that the Secret Service didn’t immediately whisk him off stage. Instead, they let him stay long enough to pump his fist a few times and show the blood on his ear.
The Secret Service didn’t do that at a somewhat similar event during his first term (maybe a rally). That time Secret Service whisked him off the stage in about one second. And he very willingly went. He also had a look unbridled fear during the that time. He was pretty calm at the more recent event.
But I don’t know. I still think there is a better chance that the attempt on his life was not planned. However, I wouldn’t be shocked if it were made public that the event was planned.
Don’t know anymore.
No.
No, but the wound on Trump’s ear wasn’t from a bullet, it was from him ducking down and hitting the side of his head on the dais. Painful as fuck, I’m sure, but not the “a bullet creased my ear” hyperbole either.
no, but i believe they took political advantage of the situation immediately…i cant get past the lack of injury even though Trump was supposedly injured.
There is zero evidence that is was fake, and a LOT of evidence that it was real. I don;’t get the people who say it was fake. Something doesn’t become fake just because that fits your narrative better.
Something being suspicious doesn’t make it fake. That’s such baloney.
The recent video was certainly weird.
Do you really believe the man afraid of eagles, dogs, and showing his taxes, would actually stick around if it was real? For one they would have to change his diapers or get used to the smell. Could the secret services really be that bad that they couldn’t spot a man with a gun sprawled across a roof, who just happened to be filmed. Also have you ever seen anyone wear a bandage like an ear hat? No way was it applied by a credible doctor or nurse.
No, I think people love to look for conspiracies. I think he was barely nicked with the bullet or hit by shrapnel and he wishes he had a bigger wound to show off. the size of the bandage he was sporting at (I think) the RNC was ridiculous.
I’m not gonna downplay his bravery in that moment, dude got shot at, I just hate that he got a martyr moment because – of course – he milked the shit out of it and the pic was a good look for him.
Ansolutely not. My ex kept saying this. “They just had someone shoot close to his head but miss on purpose.”
You really think Trump is gonna risk his life like that?
Then there’s also plenty of body cam of the shooter dead on the roof.
Really annoys me when people think this is a conspiracy. The idea that trump is so likeable that no one would try to assassinate him is ridiculous.
Figured he got reconstruction surgery for his ear. How would you explain the blood?
Not fake, the bullet didn’t hit him, got very close though.
It’s incredible that we haven’t seen the medical reports
What gets me is the lack of scar/ missing part of the ear from a bullet wound. I scratched my face with a tree branch and have a permanent scar. I had my ears pierced decades ago and they are scarred. Trump doesn’t show the close up of it? He loves to show how strong he is. Show off that battle wound. Something doesn’t add up.
Not fake. Rather a powerful organisation helped point the would he assassin to opportunities. May have had him hypnotised as useful idiot for years, just in case. It took tremendous hubris and it was oddly powerful in finding a hiatus in security.
Absolutely a set up.
I think the first one was probably real.
However I think the second one was a publicity stunt.
Faked no? I think it’s odd we still don’t know anything about the shooter, how he’s was radicalized so much to the point of attempting to kill the president but has no online footprint is extremely odd…
It’s not fake and the security forces made many mistakes that lead to it. I am not going to read anything more into it than that.
this is the most compelling evidence I’ve seen yet that this was planned. https://www.instagram.com/p/DMSytCFsY44/
besides that, there are 2 people dead from it. so that does not seem fake to me. I don’t believe in the “collateral damage” theory.
even if it were 100% real, there were still 0 reasons to vote for trump no matter how many trump voters try to kill him.
The reason I think something is fishy is the fact that Trump doesn’t reference it 3x a day.
He survived an assassination attempt, and the biggest braggart in the world isn’t talking about it 24/7?
That’s the most unbelievable part of it.
I find it harder to doubt anything anymore.
I don’t think it was fake, but he certainly was not shot in the ear.
No, anyone who does should not be taken seriously.
I don’t think it was fake but it’s definitely odd. Because less than a few weeks later it was totally ignored by both sides. But I’ll also say that if it was fake I could totally see that and I can see how and why it was done. As for OPs question about someone actually dying: this is the most plausible part of it being faked. Trump once said he could shoot someone in broad daylight and none of his supporters would be upset so is it really hard to think one of the more unhinged MAGAts wouldn’t sacrifice their life for the guy?
I do whenever I’m around Republicans who live conspiracy theories.
I dont actually, but I cant put together a much stronger argument for Trump faked it than they can for most of their bullshit and give reached the point where I am sick of doing a one sided good faith discussion so owning jist troll them.
I also tell them I cant wait to vote for AOC “just to own the cons, and for the memes.”
I dont actually make my decisions that way, but thats the level of discourse that they warrant.
I’m not going to say it was faked, but I can’t rule out the possibility. That an innocent bystander was killed doesn’t impact people that say empathy is a weakness. I don’t remember any outpouring of grief for the family that lost a father. And it is well known that an assonation attempt will boost a candidate’s support, look at Reagan. And then a second failed attempt s few weeks later? And both of them by solid Republicans. No, I can’t rule it out.
Yes, a man died. Does anyone believe that amoral politicians care who lives or dies so long as they stay in office?
There are any number of anomalies…
The would-be assassin just walked up a conveniently placed ladder with a rifle. Secret service, local police, et al never noticed this? Meanwhile, bystanders and police noticed him on the roof. Nothing was done.
Then the miracle ear. Within days the Felon was photographed with zero indications of any wound. To this day there is no scar, no anything. Clearly, he was not wounded by a bullet despite the MSM presenting that piece of propaganda as if it were true.
The Secret service allowed the Felon to rise up and strike a pose during an active shooting event while photographers were literally ushered into the foreground to get photos of the heroic, defiant President.
Whether it was ‘staged’ or not, there are too many questions about this event that need to be answered.
Trump said it was real, so his word is good enough for me.
Not fake. Just incompetence.
Incompetent cops working with incompetent Secret Service against an incompetent shooter.
No. Just weird. We need more information about why a 20 year old registered Republican would try to kill him.
Fake? No. Was Trump shot? Also no.
I am usually the last one to make claims like that but it LOOKED fake as I watched it in real time, and it looks even more fake from all these other angles. Those agents looked and behaved like straight up actors. The sunglasses, the weird gun handling, the photo op, no scar, not a single photo of the “wound” until it magically healed, no info of the shooter, and knowing what a POS conman he is I wouldn’t be surprised whatsoever.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it was, but I don’t think it’s productive to talk about it.
I do think the assassination attempt won him the election.
No I don’t.
Because I’m not a Conservative that suckles on the teat of stupid conspiracy theories.
Not fake but set up, absolutely.
It’s a definite possibility
It was staged. He wasn’t hit by anything but a fake blood capsule.
No, of course not.
not sure if it’s fake or not but it wouldn’t supersize me in the least if it were.
Not fake but suspicious
I’m certainly open to the idea. The fact that a guy died means nothing to my view on this matter.
As to why, there’s just a lot of strange things and unanswered questions regarding it, and the timing for it couldn’t have been more perfect.
The shooter was a Republican and there’s been almost no new information on him to come out since. The whole nicking Trump’s ear thing just seems too good to be true. Especially with the caliber of the bullet, the short period of time that he wore a bandage, and then no mark left behind at all. Trump spent years around the pro wrestling circuit. He certainly knows how to hide a razor blade and nick himself for maximum blood. He also hasn’t hardly mentioned it since, which is very out of character for a guy who loves nothing more than boasting about how great he is at everything. Also, I think that I’ve seen two different videos of a loud pop going off when Trump was on stage, and he reacted totally differently. His fist and “Fight” chant with the picture came off as totally planned. There were also numerous attendees who saw this kid walking to the roof with the gun and notified law enforcement and secret service ahead of time. I just find it hard to believe that he got as far as he did with that big heads up that they got.
But, also, in all honesty, I think it’s almost a moot point to talk about it now. Even if faked, the damage is done and any evidence most likely gone. Even if, say, a Secret Service agent or Trump campaign official came forward with testimony that it was faked, there’d be no hard proof and Trump and co. would just call them a liar.
Seeing as how there’s nothing but scandals when it comes to this administration, I just leave the whole assassination conversation out of my debates. There’s no proof of anything, and likely never will be.
No I think it was all real and he’s incredibly lucky.
I thought it was real and actively resented that I had to hand it to him for his badass response lol. Can’t stand the guy but that was kind of cool.
After that, I think he milked it and got a bit less cool.