So, the title already says everything, but I’m torn on what to do. I know there is no reason she should have them, but she is the mother to my child and constantly threatens to take my child and return to Guatemala. Also im not even sure what can be done for simply having a photo of them im sure it cant be legal or is it only illegal if she trys to use them?
Found photos of mine and my mothers social security card on my fiances phone.
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Did you ask her why she has them?
It can be abused and she might use it to extort you later if she actually runs away. I am all too familiar with someone running away in my family and that would probably scare me. My advice would be to bring it up and ask why, but I know nothing of your relationship and how she would handle such a confrontation.
Remove them from her phone. Then make sure she never has access to them again.
Do not trust her. She does not trust you.
For your child’s sake, proceed with caution but take steps to protect your finances and information from her.
You can talk to her about this, but she may get her back up. She will know you know now.
Uh.. delete them.
Isn’t there law against taking the child out of the country without other parent’s consent in your country?
I have no clue about legality of having access to someone else’s social security number, maybe ask in subs like r/legaladvice ?
You might want to post this on the sub Reddit: legaladvice
I’m not sure what is legal but try to get them off her phone and lock up your sensitive information.
Is she trying to apply for a passport for your child without you?
Quietly delete them and don’t say anything. Make sure you delete from the trash folder. Check her email as well, possibly the draft folder too
I don’t have photos but I had a feeling back in the 80s that these numbers would be important someday so I wrote them in my my address book as fake contacts.
I have my parents, people I dated, random friends/partners/cousins/former roommates, and some for people I can no longer even remember.
I bought a new address book with a calendar every year until 2005 and kept them every year.
I still have them all, locked in my filing cabinet.
Sounds like she is using you for something.
The threats are also a huge red flag.
If you were in the States, I would talk to a lawyer after documenting proof.
Also, if she is threatening to take your kid, perhaps some ICE might settle her down.
Call ice
Lock your and your mom’s credit down. Report her to the police. Dump her. Evict her.
Lock your credit down, fast. Then, seek legal counsel.
Lock your credit so that no new accounts can be opened in your name. Also get an identity monitoring service.
Childsupport
Ahhhh the joys of being with someone just to not be alone
Report her to DHS, they’ll straighten all of this out and you will never have to worry about her removing the child from your home.
threaten back? If she does anything with the cards you’ll call the cops and have her deported without your child
Oh shit
Run a full check on your credit to be sure you don’t have any new cards and register with an identity protection agency
When he goes to the bathroom or go to bed, delete the picture and search to see if there’s others.
You and your mom both need to check your credit reports for any weird items or inquiries and then you need to freeze your credit.
Do not marry this woman and do not let her have access to any sensitive information.
Or she is planning to file for child support in the future?
Contact an attorney, she can certainly take your child away from you and you will prob never find her in latin america
I think she probably has them Incase you guys break up she has evidence of the child’s connections to the US. She is covering her bases I think. Obviously you guys don’t have the best relationship. Being pregnant and in a bad relationship and being in a foreign country is s probably affecting her judgement. I feel sorry for her
Freeze your and moms credit. Put a passport alert on for your child with US and if possible, Guatemala. File for custody.
Scammer… If y’all had a bad breakup, guess what might happen?
Get her phone and delete them. Then hide all your important documents.
Delete them then freeze you and your mom’s credit.
It is possible to get new SSNs. You may not have sufficient need. I would call the SSA and ask them.
She can open up a line of credit with that info. Basically identity theft. I’d hope she wouldn’t do that but lots of family members do because family is reluctant to file a police report. Some life insurance policies need them to add people as beneficiaries but she should have asked.
hey OP, go to the credit reddit. i cant remember what its called. get extra advice there. this happens a lot and this “delete it” advice and stuff is really not gonna help you very much. freeze your credit and do other checks that i dont know about.
Pray she doesn’t have them memorized. That’s bad bro sorry I hope you get out of this with your child.
Delete them, take the baby and have her deported. She wants to go so bad, let her. Seriously, this woman is trouble and you’ll regret not taking a harsher stance.
Remove the photos. Make sure you secure your kids’ passports. File for divorce.
Maybe, in this climate, she has them in case something happens to her? If she was, let’s say, deported and had difficulty proving her connections?
Sounds like the basis for identity theft. If she threatens to leave with a child maybe you can use that as leverage. At least send yourself copies or take pics of them for future use and protection
First delete the photos from the cloud/phone. It should update. Then You need to have her password for trash folder when you permanently delete it.
Also…ALSO check the hidden photos too!!!!
I think you meant to say ex-fiancé
Remove the photos, and just to be safe you and your mother should call each of the credit bureaus to put a freeze on your credit. It is SUPER sketchy that your fiancé has those. Also you and your mother should probably put your cards in a safer place where they cannot be as easily found/accessed.
I’m assuming your name is on the birth certificate. Does your child already have a passport? If not, hopefully she can’t find a way to get them one without your knowledge. My ex-wife and I both have to be present when I get a passport for our youngest.
Delete them. Break up.
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Why didn’t you delete them?
This is scary, please seek an attorney and get proper legal advice and do it ASAP.
I hope you find the following helpful:
-She doesn’t need a passport for your son, if she’s not planning on coming back. However, she can always get an “emergency” passport at a local consulate if she decides to return. In such case, while highly recommended, it’s not always required that both parents be present because a citizen cannot be denied a necessary passport to ingress back into the US.
-She could see or provide your social security numbers, including that of your child, to other people, including illegal immigrants, so that they can do a few things including but not limited to filing taxes with an ITIN and claiming your child for tax credits, using their social security numbers to establish credit, get fake IDs, fake social security cards, or jobs. Some of the software used to confirm permission to work just checks if a number is valid or not (an actually issued number, person not dead).
How to protect yourself: sign up onto the social security website and check reports on your jobs (FICA contributions are registered there), sign up for a credit freeze—must do this individually for each of the three agencies. You should also get credit monitoring—you can see about taking advantage of the recent hacking to credit companies and see if you can get it for free! You should also protect yourself child’s number and credit by monitoring it every so often.
Also check your credit cards and see if new ones have popped up on your report. Check for unknown addresses on your credit report. Log into your IRS account. You can see the 7 most recent tax return summaries.
Also, help your mom do what she needs to do to take care of herself and her credit and taxes, so she can be protected.
And finally, secure all your important personal documents including your passport, birth certificate, and all your credit and bank cards.
Best of luck to you!
Uh not to be that person but if you’re in the US you have all the power to take the kids… it’s really messed up the cards are stacked that way but man if she has both social security cards she’s up to something and make it known you know and perhaps consider withholding the children’s documents
Put a freeze 🥶 or lock on all your credit reports.
Your social security number isn’t private I can find your number on the library of congress website with your name and dob. It’s literally a goverment record and it’s a myth that it’s private. Assume and operate as if it’s not all the time.
A picture of your ss card is not anything you can use for any legitimate or nefarious purpose and the number alone as well.
Most people don’t like this advice, but i’m getting it anyways. If I would have listened to it myself. I would still have my other kid. You need to take that kid right now. And leave. Go to the courthouse immediately and file for custody. Explain the threats of running out of the country and get a restraining order. Do not allow her to take your kid. If she is already threatening it, she has a plan. I really hope you listen to this
Call ice. If your children were born here and you’re a US citizen problem solved.
Dude… have some self respect. You need to cut her off. She is crazy. You learned the hard way, don’t stick your dick in crazy. Get rid of the deadweight and move on.
Why is she your fiancé if she keeps threatening to take your child away and clearly doesn’t trust you?
lock the social security numbers on the website and lock credit reports, both are free
Check both credit, freeze them. If your identity is stolen, report her. Sorry, she is up to no good. You don’t need someone like that in you and your child’s life.
Definitely lock down everyone’s credit including your child! You can also put restrictions on your child’s passport so that they can’t be taken out of the country without your permission or knowledge. Do this asap!!!
She is definitely leaving you and just needs them for reference later.
Delete them off her phone and look for back ups.
Lock your credit cards. Sign up with a credit monitoring service. Keep an eye out in case she’s opened up accounts in your names without your knowledge. Stolen identity is a pain in the ass to deal with.
Anything else you can think of that a SSN would be required, keep an eye out. You don’t want to be blind sided by some thing unexpected down the road.
Dude…..if she “constantly threatens” to take your child, then BELIEVE HER! It’s worth seeking an immigration attorney’s advise on what your rights are as a fiance (just a more permanent type of ‘boyfriend’) or as a husband, as it just might be in your child’s best interest to be married – even for a short time – and then seek a divorce. Based on the attorney’s advice, along with doing some of your own research on the US State Department’s website regarding immigration rights, etc., you’ll be able to make a more educated decision based on FACTS, not emotions. Also, those photos of the SS cards? Yeah, she just might have every intention to use them as part of destroying you, and your mom, just prior to her return to Guatemala.
I don’t understand all the people saying, delete the photos from her phone… She likely has the information elsewhere if she’s that devious.
This person cannot be trusted and it’s unfortunate that you are forever connected by a child. I would not spend one more second in a relationship with such a person.
Take the recommended actions to lock yours and your mother’s credit. Possibly apply for new SSNs.
ETA that you should take action to gain custody and/or make a record of her threats to take him away.
She can sell those numbers for quite a bit of money and someone, who knows how to beat the system, will become you and your mom, and be US citizens in no time.
freeze both your credits and file a fraud alert.
ETA AND the kid’s.
Free. You have to go to all three reporting agencies for the freeze.
Opening the fraud alert on one will trigger the other two.
Do it NOW
Identity theft is a definite risk here. Do a credit freeze for both of you.