How and why do conservatives justify Trump’s lack of decorum?

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Take for example his recent post on truth social about Epstein https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/12/trump-epstein-investigation-pam-bondi-00449926. Like this isn’t presidential at all. It’s embarrassing at best and teetering toward unhinged. Why isn’t there a base level of decorum expected of our president, politics be damned?

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  2. StedeBonnet1 Avatar

    We don’t justify his behavior but we accept it because he is the President. Trump has always been a showman and a bit of a buffoon. However, the alternative was Kamala. Why would you NOT accept Trump’s behavior when Kamala was the alternative? Trump was not hired because of his decorum. I’d rather be embarrassed by Trump than have to deal with Kamala’s incompetence.

  3. JudgeWhoOverrules Avatar

    Trump was elected specifically as a revolt against career milquetoast politicians who would promise the world, never deliver, and thought putting on the politician act, because let’s not lie it’s a false manufactured image, in public and protecting government institutions was more important than delivering on conservative philosophy or policy. People were tired of politicians making promises, never delivering them, and using issues as a wedge to get a re-elected for decades rather than caring to solve them.

    Yes, he’s brash, crude, unpresidential sounding and acting, but he’s actually pushing and getting policy done more than basically any of his predecessors in the past 30 years. After all, isn’t that why people are elected to government, to enact preferred policy? When was the last time a politician, much less a president, actually tried and then delivered on promises?

    Like I don’t know how much you remember the vibe around 2015-2016, but it was incredibly palpable how tired people were with the large slate of Republicans at the primary who were basically copies of each other and all seeming molded with that fake politician personality.

    As far as why he did so well in subsequent elections, the candidates opposing him were just insanely horrible.

  4. tanknav Avatar

    I don’t. But while I personally find his behavior is often boorish, I embrace his substantive decisions. Also…my alternative to President Trump was….what exactly? Hillary? Not a chance in hell for another Clinton. Biden? No, I’ll choose cognitive over creepy every time. Kamala? Seriously…you’ve got to be kidding. Trump has been the best alternative to horrible Democrat nominees every single time…and he is actually doing nearly everything I’ve wanted other presidents to do for the past 40 years. I thank President Obama for dragging President Trump into politics not only because he’s been a better alternative to Obama’s successors, but also because President Trump is actually doing things others have falsely promised to do. I’m not likely to invite the guy to dinner, but I have no complaints about his political agenda.

  5. doughboyisking Avatar

    We used to tar and feather our politicians. We also used to beat them with sticks. Personably we have all gotten soft and need a little bit more grit and less decorum. Trump talks like normal people do, he shit posts, he cusses, he east fast food and he loves fireworks. These are just a few things. Decorum means nothing when the policy is good.

  6. Appropriate_Panic879 Avatar

    Nobody cares about decorum , we care about results.

  7. Jello-e-puff Avatar

    Trump talks like an everyday man, which is the behavior of a leader aware of his audience. His audience is not other world leaders. But, I think Trump talks that way from decades of business talk and he’s only partially implementing good leadership skills my speaking to the everyday American, everyday. It’s great marketing. Most people don’t have masters degrees.

  8. njakwow Avatar

    I find it extremely refreshing to have a non-politician who speaks his mind and often says what we are thinking.

    Life long politicians are too well skilled at either using a lot of words to say nothing or flat out lie without a twinge of conscience.

    Occasionally I cringe at something he says, but 95% of the time I’m fine with it.

    It’s not like we didn’t know who Trump was when he first ran. He’s been in the public eye most of his life and we knew he said outrageous things. I had said for decades we needed a businessman to run for president and more business people in Congress. Most of Congress has never run a business, and if they did, it failed. Hell, they had to close the congressional bank because they constantly overdrew their accounts.

    So I say let him say whatever he wants. Most of the time he is right. The more he pisses off the left, the more unhinged they get and it will be their downfall.

  9. SamurottAce Avatar

    I do not believe blind, radical conservation for the sake of conservation. I may be a conservative, but I am also pragmatic. We have a cognitively functioning president who has the balls to piss off powerful people for the sake of improving our country. I think that’s far better than someone who has a bunch of pretty words who either does nothing to actually help us or actively makes things worse.

  10. mbarcy Avatar

    Many conservatives don’t. I think conservatism is a great deal about morality and tradition– I find it therefore pretty sad that a lot of people in this thread don’t care about decorum. The president should set a moral example for the country. If our president isn’t a good role model for our children, what kind of country do we have? People are just making exceptions for the single president they like who doesn’t have decorum. The president *shouldn’t* just act like someone you would meet at the bar. He is the highest office of the United States; we are a country of hierarchy and order.

  11. justouzereddit Avatar

    “presidential” is a subjective term. I find this way more “presidential” than a democrat giving word salad when trying to explain why gay marriage is something they both do and don’t support.

  12. AnastasiusDicorus Avatar

    who gives a crap? Race baiting democrats can have all the decorum they can muster, I still don’t want them running our country in the least bit. Trump is a real leader, not a guy chasing power.

  13. Silent-Ad5576 Avatar

    Obviously if the choice is between socialism and lack of decorum…

  14. StrongAF_2021 Avatar

    Decorum doesn’t matter, results matter. Do you prefer a carefully filtered PC message being put out by press people and having your President secretly nap in the Whitehouse for four years while some Democratic Oligarch runs the country ?

  15. PerkyLurkey Avatar

    Decorum was thrown away when the republicans went after Clinton about cigar-gate and suffered zero consequences.

    After that door was opened, there’s been very little respect on either side for any president.

    The press and the left called Bush a moron for 8 year.

    The right and the conservative press harangued Obama for 8 years about Michelle and his birth certificate

    The left concocted a Russia collusion lie about Trump for 4 years (which is now possibly going to be investigated)

    The right bullied Biden relentlessly about his lack of energy and awareness

    And now the left is attacking Trump daily on ICE abs spending bills.

    The voters get/deserve what they accept.