I am wondering how folks who would have called themselves constitutional conservatives prior to 2008 are doing? Are they worried? Are they energized? Has there been an evolution of beliefs? Where are you all and how are you faring?
I am wondering how folks who would have called themselves constitutional conservatives prior to 2008 are doing? Are they worried? Are they energized? Has there been an evolution of beliefs? Where are you all and how are you faring?
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not good….
As much as I like a lot of Trumps “ends” or goals, his means I have deep issues with.
What’s scary, Trump isn’t wrong in his ability to abuse it in a lot of the legal sense. Congress has ceded so much of its power to the executive the last 8 or 9 Presidents have had the ability to do what Trump is doing with little guard rails.
Trump can simply declare something an emergency and gets extrodinary emergency powers act….in order for congress to revoke it, it would need a 2/3 resolution which our useless congress has no way of doing.
What is difficult about this is the mind of the voter, especially Trump voters. This is what they elected him to do, but what they don’t realize is these powers don’t go away and now that Trump has opened the door, there nothing stopping the next guy from continuing.
This goes two ways, going forward POTUS have these powers and use them and the next time they might not be going after people we think should be removed, it might be going after people the left doesn’t like.
The other alternative is a shift towards ceasar or more current a Victor Orban type Government and it’s concerning.
I am a conservative thru and thru, I like a lot of what Trump is doing, but I value freedom and the protection of that freedom above all else. Everything I value is protected and downstream of Freedom and while I personally don’t feel at threat now or predict to in the future, Trump will not always be leader (for better or worse) and someone else will have these powers which should scare conservatives shitless. Imagine if AOC was President and started deporting people protesting at abortion clinics, or during covid started deporting immigrants (legal or not) people who were anti vax. This may sound extreme, but this is how liberals are looking at things.
Doing fine. The folks here illegally aren’t citizens and don’t fall under the Constitution for due process. Focus on citizens first. Give those who want to be here a path to citizenship. Vet who wants in so they don’t kill innocent people.
The older I get the further right I get.
I’m for opening up mental institutions again for liberals. This country has gotten worse since they were closed.
Worried.
The Supreme Court can’t do everything by itself. The Federalist Society picks were pretty good and it’s nice to see them ruling based on law rather than policy preferences, but they are only one of the three branches of government.
I’m doing much better and am somewhat energized.
This country has moved so far from the constitution’s mandates and governmental restrictions since the 1930s; especially after Wickard v. Filburn. A great illustration of that movement is the 18th amendment prohibiting alcohol in the United States passed in 1919. That amendment prohibited alcohol and authorized Congress to pass laws to enforce the amendment.
After Wickard in 1942 it seems that Congress could justify, without an amendment, using the Commerce Clause to prohibit alcohol. The redefinition of the commerce clause based on Wickard has allowed Congress to regulate just about everything; things that would have been unimaginable before the Wickard ruling.
Since then Congress has spent generations attempting to regulate the daily lives of the citizens while simultaneously getting lazier in actually passing specific regulations. They’ve essentially created an administrative state where there are more regulations than laws and more powers ceded to the President.
By design, it was meant to be difficult to pass federal level laws and the federal government was meant to be small and not be intrusive to daily life.
There has been, in my opinion, much more exploitation of the administrative state by the Democrats than by the Republicans. The limits of these powers have always been tested.
Now that President Trump has figured out how to leverage that administrative state, those who supported the administrative state in the past are up in arms.
I’m energized because I believe we can’t get back to the correct operating procedure for this country without the pendulum swinging as it has after this last election.
I think we’re going to see two different possible outcomes. The one I favor, reigning in by the Legislature of the administrative state or, the one I disfavor, the start of wilder swings back and forth between administrations.
I don’t believe we can get back to a constitutionally rational point, though, without an aggressive exploitation of the current state.
Uncomfortable. We should be striving to uphold the constitution. A worthy goal achieved by violating the constitution is no longer worthy.
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