How do you know for sure if you or someone else is ugly or average?

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Can an ugly man get stares from women? What defines an ugly or average man?

i’ve been diving deep lately into these thoughts, and honestly it’s messing with my head. Like, I’ll catch women looking at me sometimes and I can’t tell if it’s good or bad attention. Are they checking me out or just wondering what’s wrong with my face?

I know this sounds pathetic but hear me out – how do you actually know where you stand? I’ve asked friends but they just give me that “you’re fine bro” response which doesn’t help at all. Dating apps are brutal but maybe that’s just how they are for everyone?

Some days I feel decent, other days I catch myself in the mirror and think damn, no wonder. It’s like I have no objective view of myself anymore.

What are the actual signs? Is it:
– How people react when you talk to them?
– Whether you get matches online?
– If strangers are friendly or avoid eye contact?
– How often you get complimented (or don’t)?

And what’s the difference between ugly and just average? Like is average still in the “no chance” category or is there hope there?

I’m probably overthinking this but something says to me i can figure out someway. How did you guys figure out where you stand looks-wise? And more importantly, what did you do about it if you didn’t like the answer?

Comments

  1. SewerSlidalThot Avatar

    Do you have eyes?

  2. johnhu12 Avatar

    Even IF you or someone else are ugly, you can’t change it. It’s personality that matters the most

  3. AssBlastFromDaPast Avatar

    Let’s flip it around. If you’re attractive, you will DEF know it. People will make it very clear.

  4. radioactivegroupchat Avatar

    Idk I have a pretty good sense of how I look as w guy and even how other dudes look. I’m straight but most features that are generally attractive are rather objective for the most part

  5. SadSickSoul Avatar

    Well, for me what I do is I look in the mirror and wince like my feelings were hurt. Because they were, because I’m ugly.

  6. maverick1ba Avatar

    Are you suggesting that looks are objectively measurable?

  7. ThatSmartIdiot Avatar

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so you need others’ opinions on the matter

  8. Shaundrae Avatar

    It’s a subjective thing, so if you think they’re ugly, that’s all that matters. If this is about dating, just don’t date anyone you don’t find attractive. There’s nothing wrong with wanting an attractive partner.

  9. jaytee319 Avatar

    If nobody’s ever randomly offered to buy you a drink or insulted you for existing… congrats, you’re average.

  10. RedittPermaBan1 Avatar

    Women all around me keep telling me in subtle ways that how disgusting I look.

  11. senpalpi Avatar

    Attraction is subjective. “Beauty” and “ugliness” don’t exist in a vacuum. They are social constructs and change in distinct ways around the world, from person to person moment to moment.

    In most white europeans countries people value slimness and toned bodies. In other countries they like their folk chunky.

    Some peeps find body hair sexy. For others it’s their biggest turn off.

    There is no way to know for sure if you’re “attractive”, unless you fit into the beauty standards for your culture. But there are always exceptions to the rule because what makes someone ugly or attractive changes based on an individual person’s perception of beauty.

  12. 5ft6manlet Avatar

    Do YOU think you’re attractive?

  13. JoeDanSan Avatar

    Is it ok if I change your perspective a little. You are confusing attraction with looks and missing the single most important aspect of attraction. And that is self confidence.

    Right now, you are projecting that you are self conscious about your looks. This makes you less attractive than someone with below average looks that is confident in themselves. As long as you are putting effort into your hygiene, don’t worry about your looks. Focus on your confidence if you want to be more attractive.

  14. dantoris Avatar

    I would assume by going your entire life never receiving any compliments on anything related to your looks, never having the opposite sex fawn over you like you see them do with the ones who are attractive, etc. And comments from grannies don’t count, because everybody is a “beautiful girl” or “handsome boy” to them.

  15. _shirime_ Avatar

    If you look at them and kind of get grossed out a little bit- they’re ugly

    If you look at someone and go “meh” and shrug your shoulders – they’re average

  16. Waste_Treacle_8960 Avatar

    huh? what kind of question is that? its f7cking subjective

  17. TheDukeofArgyll Avatar

    This seems like a waste of everyone’s time. Just live your life.

  18. ContinousSelfDevelop Avatar

    It’s pretty simple for men. Have you ever been genuinely approached by a woman or gay man to ask you out? If so then you are attractive. If you however approached a woman to do the same and the response is laughing or an ‘ew no’, then you are ugly. Completely neutral responses are average looks.

  19. Matseye1r Avatar

    The only stares I get r “ewww” stares. Lol if any.

    Ik imma a solid 4.

  20. RaphealWannabe Avatar

    To be fair, all I know is that people on reddit have called me nightmare fuel, girls and women in high school and college were mean and nasty towards me or ignored me. 

    I have clinical depression and that comes with poor self image and I have always assumed/ told myself that I’m ugly because women have never shown intrest and I don’t want to risk being “that guy”, the one who is ugly and unlovable but tries to be charming and instead is just annoying (like on TV shows). 

    There have been women who said they think im handsome but I never believed them, I figure they were just trying to make me feel better or were up to something. 

  21. oliverjohansson Avatar

    For women most of guys are smelly, ugly, losers or dumb. Some of them still seem interesting. So if you can catch their attention it’s a win already.

    What is attractive vs ugly for me as a guy, if I can remember them in a good way or bad way. If I cannot, they don’t stand out, it’s average

  22. Zealousideal_Hour342 Avatar

    ive never understood how people can be unaware that they are pretty lol I grew up being reminded at every corner of my biological inferiority and I saw first hand the kind of treatment pretty people received around me. But I guess if they have no reference in being ugly, they don’t know they have it so good.

  23. Raven123x Avatar

    I uploaded a few images of myself to ChatGPT and asked it to rate me according to truerateme and rateme and based on general values of human beauty standards

    Was told I’m a 7 but could go up to an 8 with better lighting, haircut, and outfits

    I think ChatGPT was a bit ambitious but I think I’m around a 6 or 7