They don’t speak the language. They get more angrier than an actual Italians when you ruin their dishes, when newsflash Italian American cusine is a bastardization of Italian cusine.
The closest thing to Italian they are is 3rd generation. If I can find you’re relatives name on the Ellis Island records you’re Italian American not Italian. When they visit Italy they visit the same touristic cities and that any non italian visiists.
And they have have no direct Italian relative that they know off who actually lives in Italy
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Nobody in America cares if the way we talk about our heritage offends anybody else who shares said heritage.
There’s a reason Italian is the language of music, it’s the only one beautiful enough to do it justice. If it’s part of your heritage I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t want to learn it and speak it. It’s not that difficult and it’s so worth it.
As an European I wouldn’t care too much if they say that they are descendants of Italian immigrants rather than saying they’re Italians. No you’re not???
its the same for all other ethnicities, same for indian americans, chinese americans, all the others but what are these people supposed to do they did grow up in the middle of two cultures and they have some percentage of both
Italian-American here, I get your point, but I honestly am extremely proud of my heritage. I am 25% italian (no dna test, just a guess cause my maternal grandma is 100% mexican and my maternal grandpa is 100% italian).
My father is European (british, swedish, etc, found out thru dna test). Ngl, still don’t like pineapple on pizza lol, though my mom likes it đ .
My mom immigrated in 2002-03, and met my father through a Coldplay fan forum. At the time she lived in New Mexico (fun fact, her maid of honor was in breaking bad!). After she married my father, she moved to my home state. My brother had already been born, after she was “taken advantage of”, as she told me when i was younger.
I have several Italian relatives who live in Italy (we went there when i was 7 and it was my favorite trip i have ever been on).
I love my Italian relatives. They’re the sweetest people. My grandpa often flew to Wisconsin on work trips, and took back Packers memorabilia when he lived in Italy. So, my maternal side (except my mom who doesn’t care about sports) are diehard Packers fans, and I am too, along with being a Brewers fan. We’re AC Milan fans too.
I will admit I don’t know Italian, though my brother is learning it.
I am super proud of my heritage and love Italy itself, it’s a beautiful country.
So maybe we’re a little more Italian than you think (even if we’re really not)?
I usually just say my grandparents were Italian. I personally not mention it much, but since the Italian grandparents were on dadâs side my last and middle names are extremely Italian sounding.
As an Irishman I feel you. Your nationality is on your passport, not with your great-great grandparents
Ah well
That makes me remember the sopranos chapter, when ones of the dudes goes to Italy, he canât speak the language, wants ketchup in the spaghetti. The actual Italians are making fun of him and he canât understand anything.
They are not Italian Americans, they are just Americans, is the same as when you call someone African American, or Mexican American, most of those people are just American.
Calling diaspora cuisine a âbastardizationâ is incorrect. Overall, you sound like you just despise people who left your country for caring about their heritage and wanting to get in touch with it.
So you mean Trunks, Gohan and Goten aren’t really saiya-jin?
If you said this to Chinese Americans, Indian Americans, or Mexican Americans, you’d be labeled xenophobic/racist (actually experienced this happening to a friend).
it’s a word thing to gatekeep about… Who cares? if anything, I feel the Irish Americans are more guilty of claiming to be Irish despite very little connection.
I’m Irish. Full on dad’s side (first gen American) and mixed in on mom’s side. I wouldn’t say I’m Irish in Ireland.
As a Canadian with a very German last name, I can tell you that itâs really frustrating because we arenât considered âEthnic Germansâ by those in Germany itself, but we still have been told every Nazi joke under the sun (despite many of us having had ancestors who migrated from Germany during the immigration boom of the 1800s).
I feel the line between race, ethnicity and nationality is something that very much needs to be differentiated when having these conversations about what qualifies and what does not.
Youâre are upset that Italian Americans have pride in their heritage?
You might hate it but some people really do carry on the traditionsâŚermmm people had to assimilate to survive here. You both donât share the same experiences but both has the right to know and claim their ancestral heritage and culture so đ¤ˇââď¸. My bf is Italian American and his grandparents were both full. His dads full Italian and his moms French and German. Have some basic consideration for people( especially your people ) who live a different life than you. Not all Italians are the same my guy
Holy gatekeeping. Not Italian, but Eastern European here. Whether youâre a fellow Eastern European in 2nd, 3rd or 8th generation, youâre still a fellow Slav to me, because youâve got that Slavic blood in you, and Iâll be happy to catch you up on everything going on in the country where you have roots.Â
Even if youâre American or any other nation who appreciates my culture, itâs your culture now too, youâre an honorary Slav.
iâve known a number of italian people over the course of the years, and i find their culinary ultra-orthodoxy just ridiculous. itâs food. does it taste good? yes? then who gives a shit what recipe it does or does not follow to the letter. i knew a girl who used to feel guilty for putting zucchini in her carbonara. i mean, seriously. another one, a flatmate, used to make himself miserable any time he fucked up his pasta cook time, which he invariably would because he was so stressed out he would sort of dissociate and lose track of the time. he would eat it with this sullen look on his face like his mother had just told him off.
Italy, the OG colonizers.
this post is the most Italian thing ever, lmao
like in a bad way