My mom claims is religious but has never opened a Bible. She’s the hypocrite that got me into it.
I went into the military and during boot camp if you went to church once a week on Sundays you got like a hour half without being yelled at so I went. Got a Bible and proceeded to learn the Bible inside out.
Anyway so this guy was telling me he wanted to get a cross tattoo but didn’t know where and I started telling him Bible quotes to point out the irony.
Leviticus 19:28 then James 4:7& Matthew 6:13.
He did not see the irony…..
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Okay? Talk to use like we don’t read the Bible. Explain.
Honestly this one of things I love about being an ex practicing Christian who hobby used to consist of studying thyself approved with the bible and being an agnostic now.
I learned that so many Christians don’t really know their bibles and are hypocrites. I love bringing up scriptures that they have never heard about to refute their claims.
It is quite funny the amount of people who consider themselves complete followers of a faith but have never read the text.
I have more respect for the fundamentalists because at least they’re treating it as if it is God’s word.
(Spoiler: it isn’t)
Love it 👏
Same…
That shit is weird bro
Proverbs 22
1 timothy 3:8-13
This shut up my maga cultists familt members
That’s Old Testament stuff. Jesus sealed the New Covenant when He died, resurrected and defeated death 3 days later. He gave us forgiveness, He tells us we can have a relationship with the lord through our heart and His words, instead of Old Testament rituals.
I think it’s 2 Kings where the bald priests prays to god and god sends two she bears to maul all the kids who were calling the priest bald.
What an absurd waste of time, congratulations neck beard.
As a Christian with multiple tattoos, you are actually confused about the Old Testament and what is applicable today from it.
TL/dr: not much
The idea is that Jesus established a new covenant (Jeremiah 31:31–34; Hebrews 8:6–13) which means that the old system of laws, sacrifices, and rituals was replaced by faith in Christ.
This includes dietary laws, purity rules, and other ceremonial laws in Leviticus.
There are all kinds of weird things (like wearing clothes made of two different fibers) as well as tattoos that no longer apply.
I mean, there’s a lot of wisdom and western canon lore you could take from it instead of just “gotcha” moments
As someone who has left the faith, I understand why you would do this.
In my experience, it’s not worth your time. Until someone is ready to admit to themselves that their entire worldview has to change, it will not matter what you say.
Spite is one of the best reasons to do something.
A friend of mine is reading the thing just for this reason. As admirable as that is, I don’t read fast enough to sacrifice that many of the irretrievable hours of my life to reading about magical thinking of any kind.
Yes, but why quote him Leviticus 19:28? He wasn’t Jewish, was he? If you know your Bible, then clearly you know the New Testament debate of Gentiles (ie non-Jewish people) and the Mosiac Law, yes? It’s an overarching theme throughout the epistles.
And you are familiar with the instructions given to Gentile Christians outlined in Acts 15:19-21, yes?
Is this supposed to be a flex?
Seems like a colossal waste of your life.
It would be like memorizing obscure MLB stats off the back of baseball cards from 50+ years ago just to impress people who don’t give a fuck.
You might be wasting some other people’s time but the person who has wasted the most of life’s finite time is YOU.
Satan is said to know the Scripture inside and out. Guess knowing the Bible isn’t the criteria to being a Christian, if I recall, it’s a personal relationship with the one they call Jesus.
You didn’t learn the Bible inside and out though, you memorized lines of text. What you’re supposed to learn from it is how to not be an ass, at least that’s what I took away from it.
That being said, the shit you did was pretty funny lol, better than getting yelled at. Fuck organized religion
I memorized sermon on the mount for similiar reasons lol. When someone’s harping their religious banter at you its funny to ask them to open their Bible and then point to the part where Jesus tells them to stfu.
The Bible is wild! I like the hallow app bible in a year. They read a little then explain it.
Learn the Quran and talk shit to Muslims then I’ll be impressed. How brave of you to participate in mockery of pre-approved targets
You quoting Leviticus to the person means you aren’t really reading the Bible the way it’s supposed to be read, those things aren’t meant for Christians, only for Jews. Christians follow the New Testament, we have the old testament in the Bible because it’s history for us and because it points to Jesus! God bless
I’ll bite, so what do James and Mathew have to say about tattoos?
I find it hilarious the Bible includes the Old testament and then proceeds to say none of the rules from it are relevant anymore, just cause. Except obviously when your politicians wanna get votes.
Did you see anything useful? Taking away the idea of control and organized religion and taking it on as seek for yourself? I have also read it extensively and while it’s use to control people abhors me, I found much sincere truth.
Dude I went to every fucking church service in basic. Catholic, Buddhist, Pentacostal, you name it. Even 7th Day Adventist, which was great because it got you out on a Saturday.
the Bible doesn’t even exist as such without church tradition.
Thats a good goal in life, never assume and always look up the law/source yourself. It’s written that the Sanhedrin, the Jewish court of law, had to be proficient in knowing all the sorcery and idolatry at the time to properly judge people accused of those things and to avoid a salem witch trial situation.
I read the Bible 3 times. It’s why I don’t believe in Jesus. I do believe in God, though. It’s so funny how many Christians haven’t even read it once.
Probably the most interesting and overlooked thing themed throughout is that all the major characters in the bible had a direct relationship with God. Heard/spoke to/saw.
This will frustrate you. Every single contradiction in the Bible, they will explain away with special pleading.
Or they’ll tell you it’s impossible to interpret God’s actions despite the fact that they all worship and follow him…
Its fun most of the time tho lol
Have you read the Jeffersonian Bible?
Reading the Bible is not knowing the Bible.
I could read a book about how to perform an appendectomy, but that doesn’t mean I could perform one.
What a coincidence, I learned the Talmud to better understand and relate to Jewish people and their world view
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So you think you know the Bible, but you really don’t.
Romans 6.14 says we are not under law but under grace. So Levitical law is not applicable to Christians.
James 4.7 (submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you ) and Matthew 6.13 (And do not lead us into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.) do not seem relevant.
So, cool story bro but you don’t seem as clever as you think yourself to be.
I think Jesus frames how Christians are to read scripture pretty clearly:
>Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, the Pharisees got together. One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”
>Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Matthew 22:34-40
If you’re a Christian, it means you ought to read the Bible through the lens Jesus provided, and He conditioned following things on our capacity to love others as ourselves – on how we would want to be treated.
This grounds the whole point of the law – its purpose is to cultivate a sense, desire, and awareness of our need of grace, compassion, and mercy – not to achieve righteousness over it, but to humbly seek mercy in failing under it. As Jesus shows with the woman caught in adultery, all of the men who accused her and broken the same rules but escaped judgment simply by not being caught in the act. And when they left, Jesus Himself didn’t condemn her, showing He too desired mercy from the law rather than judgment – which He knew He wasn’t going to get.
This is Paul’s entire argument in Romans. The law condemns everyone so that we might all desire mercy from God, and then, knowing how it feels to be terrified of judgment and wanting to escape it, show what we want God to do for us to others when they offend us – forgive them and love them. Without the law, and its arbitrary and impossible to follow contradictions, you might never think you need to ever be forgiven, and therefore, never show forgiveness.
So the law is important to know and elevate, because it only works to teach us mercy if we believe it to be good and us to have truly failed something good.
Now if you’re a Jew, or anyone else, you might not care how Jesus frames scripture, but there’s a reason why this is the Great Commandment in Christianity, it is the thesis that makes sense of it all.
I’ve read the thing cover to cover and studied it in religious private school. And my conclusion is, either the old and new testaments are describing different gods, or neither come even close.
Have you studied the Bible for years? I highly doubt you actually studied it inside out, scholars sometimes spend decades doing it. It’s a very dense book that is not easy to interpret.
Edit: Seems like OP isn’t even familiar with basic concepts in Christian theology that can be disproved in a quick Google search. Putting random parts of Leviticus out of context doesn’t make you a Bible expert.
That’s just a waste of life tbh, just let people be and focus on yourself.
Btw for the record, I’m neither Christian or religious.
What other verses do you quote for common ironic situations
Just because you read it front to back doesn’t mean you fully comprehend the Word or interpret it in the many ways that God intended us to. You simply read it to memorize it and only interpret it in your idiotic logic to “debate” Christians. I bet you are made to look like a fool often, huh?
I don’t speak Bible tell me the irony please
Most of theologicaly literate people I meet are atheists.
Some of the least empathetic people I have met were theists.
Learning the Bible in order to expose the ridiculousness of religious people is a skill I’ll forever think the atheists at my college for. So many Christians claim they’ve read the Bible but they haven’t in any depth.
Asking people if they know Ezekiel 23:20 is hilarious.
Or Ezekiel 25:17.
A lot of Christian’s claim that the Old Testament doesn’t count anymore. That doesn’t stop them from cherry picking from it to hate on people tho.
Reading it doesn’t mean you understand it or know it. Anyone can Google bible verses. You read it with as much enthusiasm as you would the back of a shampoo bottle on the toilet.
Listen to the “talk heathen” podcast and “atheist experience” it’ll give a sense of community so you don’t annoy people with your new found atheism. We all do it and want to express it
You can only talk shit to Christians because they are the only people this applies to. Not religious people in general
That’s like reading Shakespeare for only the bawdy bits and missing the vast expanse and depth of human experience.
I don’t suppose you did a cultural background study in each chapter did you?
A lot of my ‘why’ moments made sense when I did; although, I’m still hung up on the woman from Judges.
She was a concubine to a Levite, she ran away from him to go back to her father’s house; the Levite goes to retrieve her.
Men from the city surround the house, demanding they wanted to violate the Levite, but instead, he sends the woman out to them.
She is assaulted throughout the night, she dies; her corpse is left on the doorstep, and the Levite dismembers her into twelve pieces (Judges 19:29), making a bold, visceral statement to the tribes to provoke outrage and unity because of the crime that was committed, in a time of lawlessness.
Sure, extreme times require extreme measures… But I have to wonder, reflecting on the times now. People are doing worse than this to each other, and the stories get flooded in the media with nonsense.
But I digress, you read the Bible inside and out to talk shit to ‘religious’ people, and that’s fine, that’s actually encouraged. You’re actually being more Christian than you think, especially in times where people forget what it really means to be one. The Bible, is meant for the broken, and can only be truly understood by the broken, and by calling out luke warm Christians on their behavior, you’re reminding them of the standards they should be actually following.
You’re fulfilling a role without realizing it, evangelism; your intentions might differ, but you’re doing God’s work. For that, I applaud you.
I’ve read the Bible, cover to cover (skimmed the ‘begats’), three times. I was a Bible thumper. I had heard some story about a man who set out to disprove the bible and ended up proving it. I was curious. A whole lot of things started not making sense. I did more and more research. I found even more problems. Then, I looked at christians and decided I didn’t belong to a group of judgey, nosey, lying hypocrites who think their god gave them free will but they have the right to take it from others. I believe in a creator(s). I’m still searching. But the two things that put me off religion are Christians and the Bible.