I’m just so tired of hearing guys say they want a “natural woman” when what they actually mean is “a perfectly styled woman who looks like she’s not trying.”
The second I show up barefaced, feeling good in my skin, there’s always a comment.
“You look tired.”
“Rough day?”
Or worse: “You’re definitely prettier with a bit of makeup.”
It messes with your head. Because when I do wear makeup, then it’s: “You don’t need all that,” or “I like it when girls are just natural.”
So which is it? Because it honestly feels like there’s no winning. I’m either trying “too hard” or “not enough.” And all I really want is to feel comfortable being myself — with or without mascara.
I know it shouldn’t bother me, but some days it just hits harder than others. I’m not fishing for compliments or anything — I just needed to get this off my chest.
Has anyone else felt this way?
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Me too but also why do they just feel the need to talk about their taste in makeup like ?? Men never get asked about their preferences in makeup on a woman when they say it, it’s only when you wear « too much » or when you don’t wear any and it sometimes feels mean to me. Like as if they were saying it on purpose and i really am so tired of it.
I honestly don’t care what they think. We are so pressed with society giving us conditions and we just try to meet them from teenage-age upwards. I have just reached the age where I have started to see tiredness and wrinkles and I ran to the store so fast for wrinkle cream I had second hand embarrassment. So, in the interest of telling myself to stop obsessing over these things- and seeing that someone else is affected in this manner, I wish for you to a) tell people to mind their business and start offering those opinions back (“Hey, you would look better with a beard”) but preferably b) just continue to wear what you want when you want and always feel comfortable in your skin (with or without makeup). My partner prefers when I don’t wear eyeliner (I rarely do anyway, but I like it) and I just kept wearing it, because it is mine after all, and it is one opinion over my own. When it comes to my body and my appearance, sometimes I ask, but nobody’s opinion is more important than my own (and my doctors!).
This is definitely AI generated lol. The em dashes, the structure (especially with the question at the end), and the written style. Karma farming.
Looks like you need to learn the difference between boys and men. A boy will definitely say something regarding your appearance but a man will know that your appearance doesn’t matter and that it’s who you are that does. I’ve seen my ex without her makeup on, and she still looked beautiful even without the makeup on. A person’s physical flaws mean nothing or should be used as metrics to judge them by. You could have flawless beauty and still be arrogant and a horrible person.
this is soooo fkn true. at some point you just gotta realise that you can’t make everyone happy and if they want someone natural, they should’ve gone for someone who looks effortlessly pretty all the time. ngl, i feel like these are 🌽addicts who have never really seen a barefaced woman. some guys look at barefaced celebrities and they think they’re naturally beautiful but don’t take into account the thousands of dollars worth of skin treatments they’ve gotten to look that way without makeup (especially since they wear makeup on a daily basis which would cause damage to your natural skin barrier). also, men can’t differentiate between a natural face and a no-makeup makeup look. it’s like when women say they like a dad bod but a dad bod doesn’t look jacked. there’s a lot of effort in the gym that goes to attaining that dad bod figure and simply assuming that dad bod is natural would frustrate men the same way the ‘natural face’ look frustrates us. at the end of the day, do what makes you happy because your goal in life shouldn’t be to please anyone but yourself.
If I guy told me I looked better with makeup on, I’d flip him the bird and that would be the end of that. How rude.
Personal opinion, guys don’t really like “artificial” or “plastic”. It’s getting way too easy to tell when someone has had work done because it really just does not look natural.
Girls injecting crap in their faces at 25 are out of their minds.
Edit: the downvotes on some of my replies are hilarious. Y’all are deeply insecure.
Do what makes you happy. If they dont like it, you’re better off without them. Wear makeup if you like it, don’t wear it if you hate it, up to you.
Can’t say I’ve ever dated a guy who cares either way. I rarely wear makeup though. Some people, especially heavy users, look drastically different without makeup so it shouldn’t exactly be shocking when you get comments.
I always wear no, or close to none makeup. Never got complaints.
Yeah, a lot of guys dont realise how make up actually works or how much people have applied at the time, most of the time they only say that when its VERY obvious they have a lot on because they look like they took a fall into a bath of powders and potions.
They dont realise a lot of the time, makeup is subtle in smaller doses and they probably just think thats “natural”, when it definitely isnt.
if its not causing them breathing problems because of the foundation in the air, they wont realise its not natural most of the time.
I have learned men can not tell when women are wearing makeup. Like a girl can have a full face if makeup and if it isn’t brightly coloured they think she isn’t wearing anything.
Wear what you want. If your audience is unkind to you then that’s a reflection on their character not on you.
Absolutely. I never makeup. Self proclaimed tomboy. It shocks people when I do. Just be yourself.You’ll find the right person.My husband even looks at me weird if I ever put makeup on for something. He tells me he likes me the way I am.
On a side note, I had a friend growing up who always wore makeup. No matter what she did, so when she took it off, her boyfriends or dates would look at her awkward, like who is this person. I wouldn’t want that.
Many of us, men, don’t know the difference between ‘natural’ (no make up) and ‘natural looking make up’. IF you are looking for real feedback and not only vant here, then you may try putting some more natural looking make up maybe to see if it will be a solution.
You can try to understand it by comparing it to women and muscles. Although there are tons of different preferences (dad-bod, etc.), many women mean “don’t be abnormally muscled” when they say “I don’t like muscles”, not “I like dangerously-obese people”. The same goes for make-up and men. Moderation and a nice natural looking is the key to success in both IN MY OPINION.
The guys you’re dating are shallow dicks. Keep searching until you find someone who makes you laugh and doesn’t prioritize looks over character
Listen to what people do not what they say. I’m a man but even I know that’s all bullshit. “I like natural girls, I like natural boobs, I’m not high maintenance”, all point to a lack of self awareness. Just ignore what people say, what they do will tell you everything.
Most men don’t really notice makeup unless it is obvious. So, things like bold purple eyeshadow, red lipstick, dramatic false eyelashes etc….
Men equate makeup to “obvious application of colored products to face”. And the ones that say they don’t like makeup, are really saying they don’t care for dramatic heavy makeup.
These same men will see a woman wearing “no-makeup makeup” with tinted moisturizer, soft blush/highlighter, tinted lip balm, and filled in brows….and assume that is “natural”.
What they really mean by “natural” is: “glowing, even skin tone and subtle rosy cheeks/lips”…. And some women look that way naturally…and a lot of us need to use products to achieve that look.
I wear zero to mininal makeup most of the time, and will do a full face for special ocassions. My man tells me i’m beautiful when i wake up with a bare face and crazy hair. And he will also go “WOW” when i do a dramatic glam look. He also says he prefers “natural”, and anecdotally I get a lot of compliments from him when i do minimal/soft makeup. (To be fair, I also prefer how i look with a few strategic dabs of subtle-looking product on my face). However, he’s very used to my bare look and never tells me i need to do anything to my face.
I imagine most dudes are similar. They are simple creatures and don’t understand the amount of effort and products that go into a “natural” makeup look. (Unless they are a professional makeup artist, or grew up with a lot of sisters that they were close with, this just isn’t on their radar). And i don’t think they pay close enough detailed attention to our pores etc, to the point where they would notice concealer, soft blush, etc.
But a man who is truly into you, should find you beautiful in your raw, unretouched state. If he also appreciates the effect of makeup, that’s only normal. But if he thinks you are ugly without it, he isn’t the one.
OMG YES!!!! I use to HATE IT. I’d get “you’re so pretty you don’t need to wear makeup” and when I didn’t I’d get from the SAME people “ are you tired… you look sick”… drove me crazy
I used to get really upset, being bare faced and people would ask if I was really tired, or getting sick. So my solution? I honestly stopped wearing makeup. I do fill in my brows, but unless I’m dressing up for a special occasion, I don’t wear make up. That’s my personal solution.
Im convinced 85% of them mean “natural make up” when they say they want a natural woman. Meaning, no coloured lipstick or eyeshadow.
I was on a hair dye subreddit yesterday, and a girl had posted two pics of her hair, one bright ash blonde and the other slightly warmer blonde. This very pretty girl had 3 inch long natural dark brown roots and dark brown eyebrows in both pictures. She was asking if she should go back to her natural colour. Most of the men were commenting “which blonde is your natural colour” 🤦♀️
Basically, just do whatever the hell makes YOU feel happiest and most confident. Most people have no idea what they actually want.
there’s a lot of shitty things about being a lesbian, but not dealing with this shit is one of the silver linings
MEN DON’T KNOW.
Why would you try doing anything for a man anyways lol.
You know you can’t ever please them, so you might as well do whatever you like and ditch the weird ones.
Most people who say they like “natural girls” don’t know shit about basic makeup or even know what a natural girl look like.
Don’t think people ever look in the mirror and compare themselves to “natural girl” look.
These guys have some weird expectation that want girls to look like girls that wear make up without wearing make up. It’s silly and delusional. They want that look 24/7 and you’re better off without men who expect that out of you.
I like a lot of the little features in a persons face, and a lot of these little details get hidden when someone puts on makeup. Nothing wrong with makeup of course.
It’s the contrast effect. If you switch from full makeup to none people will notice the difference.
I just don’t wear make up ever. No one tells me I look tired. Never had trouble attracting guys.
Just commit to the no make up thing for long enough and it will be okay.
The trick is to really go small- a drop of concealer under each eye, a light mascara, done.
It doesn’t need to be all or nothing. A drop under an eye smeared in with a finger takes me 2 seconds and I can leave the house knowing my eye bags aren’t shining full force.
I truly think the distinction is obvious beside we have our skin covered up with makeup and sunscreen and the sun doesn’t see it- people who don’t wear makeup just have a natural tan going that hides their circles etc.
Your skin is technically in better shape but looks worse, if that makes any sense xD
I personally believe women dont need to wear makeup, in the number of relationships I have been in they wore no or little makeup. My partner wears none and it doent suit her the few times she has. But I do understand if you do, I think if I was a woman I would just to get the advantage.
The thing is that it needs to feel right for you, I think you need to pick a look that is you and stick with it, ok if you wear light makeup everyday then maybe a little more for special events.
This comes back to someone accepting you for you, regardless if its with or without makeup.
Light make up to enhance your features.
But not too much to qualify as clown paint or a precursor to war.
Also consistent use ages your face, so does being out in the sun too much.
“Huh. That’s an opinion to have. I’m curious how much you know about makeup because the ‘no makeup looks better’ crowd usually means full natural makeup.”