I was a park ranger fired by DOGE AMA

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I spent four years working seasonally for the National Park Service (NPS) to achieve a permanent job. I was fired on Valentine’s Day by DOGE. After the firing I moved on with my life and did new things, thus I was unable to accept reinstatement after the court ruling in March. I believe DOGE, Doug Burgum, and the trump administration are taking actions that will be detrimental for the NPS, and now that I don’t work for them I’m at liberty to talk about it. Ask me anything.

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  1. Loose-Organization82 Avatar

    Who did you vote for?

  2. we-otta-be Avatar

    Do you believe they are intentionally sabotaging orgs like the Park Service and if so why?

    Personal anecdote with doge: my friends an engineer working on a base and he got laid off and reinstated within a week. I just had an interview with a department on the same base who does maintenance on all the Navy’s destroyers and they told me that within 5 years over half their team will be ready to retire, but due to the ongoing hiring freeze they have to get exemptions to replace each person. It’s just so stupid.

    Elon has to be smart enough to realize even if doge fired every person from every agency they were looking into that they wouldn’t make a dent in the deficit, so what is the intention other than sabotage?

  3. Adorable-Flight5256 Avatar

    Doug is evil.

    That being said, take a mellow occupation like caregiving or retail work.

  4. NothingImportant76 Avatar

    What was your GS equivalent?

  5. Friskydementedelf Avatar

    What’s the Craziest/Scariest thing you’ve seen on the job?

  6. CanadianGuy39 Avatar

    What job have you decided to do instead? Have you noticed any positives from being fired?

  7. Plastic-Resident3257 Avatar

    Did you see any coworkers who voted for the other ‘loser’ get canned by doge?

  8. rhcollins Avatar

    What’s something about working for the NPS that you wish the general public knew or had a better understanding of?

  9. PossibleCash6092 Avatar

    “Welcome to Doge: I love you”

  10. cwmosca Avatar

    Of the work you’ve seen your fellow rangers do, what is usually the sought after position?

  11. Emergency-Safe-6765 Avatar

    What was the hardest part about being fired?

  12. Weak_Status2831 Avatar

    What were your job responsibilities day to day?

  13. Comfortable-Ad-6280 Avatar

    I also heard that the GOV is selling NP land 😢is that their justification for cutting out services , just curious what their rationale is and why

  14. TravelSnail Avatar

    I was at a major inflection point in my life after being laid off from a factory job. It was time to change careers, and joining the national Park service was at the top of my list…. until I learned just how smart, how educated, how dedicated, how hard, and how underpaid the park service is. You all are the coolest people in the room, hands down. The fact that our country is okay laying off a single one of you before they ask billionaires to pay their fair share just hurts my heart so damn much.

  15. PushPopNostalgia Avatar

    Favorite national park or monument or battlefield? 

    Also, did you work at the same park or did they rotate you? What kind of qualifications did they require you to have?

    Also, I’m so fucking mad at how they’re treating our parks. All of my childhood vacations revolved around road trips and national parks. (Have an embarrassing amount of Junior Ranger badges collected.) 

  16. AppointmentCritical Avatar

    No questions, but it’s pathetic that Elon does these things and then just like that gets bored and exits. A game for him, no so much for the people impacted.

  17. Tired_Profession Avatar

    How shall you affect your revenge?

  18. Leading-Avocado-347 Avatar

    whats with the hiding of bigfoot and people vanishing in national parks?

  19. FurrieBunnie Avatar
  20. enthusiasm-unbridled Avatar

    I worked a summer doing tours at a very remote national monument in the west. On a daily basis I was blown away by the stupidity and arrogance of guests/tourists. Do you have any stories of tourists that you had to interact with due to disrespecting or damaging the parks you worked at?

  21. thereelkrazykarl Avatar

    Is it a crime to use a (electric) chainsaw to cut down dead trees for firewood

  22. retro_grave Avatar

    Do you think people resigning is an effective way to protest the policy changes, or are there opportunities for malicious compliance to help obstruct and delay their goals?

  23. Mystic_Is_Here Avatar

    Never even heard of the NPS you learn something new everyday

  24. SlaterAlligator2 Avatar

    Who did you vote for?

  25. Spiritual-Computer73 Avatar

    DOGE removed my son’s job with NFWS.

  26. seattletribune Avatar

    List 3 tasks you’ve completed at home today

  27. Mariner-and-Marinate Avatar

    What was the process when they fired you?

  28. sandleaz Avatar

    > I was fired on Valentine’s Day by DOGE.

    How do you know it was DOGE? Unless the NPS had some shady shit going on with a lot of money wasted on nothing, there’s no reason for DOGE to go after some random park ranger. There has been examples of departments trying to fire people over nothing, with DOGE having nothing to do with it – and in those examples, those departments blamed DOGE for something they didn’t do.

    Edit: apparently, people don’t understand the concept of “malicious compliance”.

    DOGE: We’re trying to reduce US spending and remove unnecessary government workers. We’re even offering them nice incentives if they resign.

    Some agency that hates DOGE: Ok, we’re going to create problems by firing a bunch of people that are necessary and provide legitimate services. Then we’re blame it on DOGE because we “complied”.

  29. Lack_Of_Motivation1 Avatar

    How much were you making and how is that salary comparable to the same or similar job in the private sector?

  30. richkong15 Avatar

    That trans park ranger that place the trans flag on El Capitan at Yosemite just permanently defunded everyone for the next 3 years

  31. Mr-Gangnam-Style Avatar

    It seems like the government is bring run like a circus. I read somewhere that a federal judge ruled what DOGE did with the mass firing of federal workers was illegal and must be rescinded.

    How is NPS (or other departments that you know of) dealing with this ruling? Would you go back to being a park ranger if offered the opportunity again?

  32. Pretend-West-6157 Avatar

    This was super interesting. Thank you for putting yourself out there. Good luck with your current job and educational plans.. the world needs more thoughtful people like you.. sending love and respect.

  33. United_Suit_7850 Avatar

    How many years did you work as a seasonal employee? What was your season? And what were your duties? Im curious. I work seasonally with public works and was let go also. What was your usual season? Mine- November to March.

  34. sweetsmcgeee Avatar

    How much do you nps staff despise booz allen corp?

  35. itiswhatitisnt25 Avatar

    Do you think one of the reasons NPS employees are so underpaid is they exploit people’s passion for the parks? It’s insane to need a masters for a GS-7

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    What was your GS equivalent? GS5, non ladder position after a relevant degree and five years of experience. I would say based on my day to day work I did about 7-9 level work. The NPS is NOTORIOUS for undergrading positions and not promoting people. Now with current hiring freezes it’s just gonna be worse. Here
    Do you believe they are intentionally sabotaging orgs like the Park Service and if so why? Personal anecdote with doge: my friends an engineer working on a base and he got laid off and reinstated within a week. I just had an interview with a department on the same base who does maintenance on all the Navy’s destroyers and they told me that within 5 years over half their team will be ready to retire, but due to the ongoing hiring freeze they have to get exemptions to replace each person. It’s just so stupid. Elon has to be smart enough to realize even if doge fired every person from every agency they were looking into that they wouldn’t make a dent in the deficit, so what is the intention other than sabotage? Yes. The intention is private development and resource extraction. If you watch Burgum’s interviews you’d think he’s secretary of energy Here
    No questions, but it’s pathetic that Elon does these things and then just like that gets bored and exits. A game for him, no so much for the people impacted. Agree. I appreciate the support 💜 Here
    I was at a major inflection point in my life after being laid off from a factory job. It was time to change careers, and joining the national Park service was at the top of my list…. until I learned just how smart, how educated, how dedicated, how hard, and how underpaid the park service is. You all are the coolest people in the room, hands down. The fact that our country is okay laying off a single one of you before they ask billionaires to pay their fair share just hurts my heart so damn much. I appreciate your kind words 💜 Here
    I worked a summer doing tours at a very remote national monument in the west. On a daily basis I was blown away by the stupidity and arrogance of guests/tourists. Do you have any stories of tourists that you had to interact with due to disrespecting or damaging the parks you worked at? Working at 19th C historic sites I frequently had slavery deniers. that was not super fun. I also had people try to touch me a lot. I’m a youngish woman and I’ve been a cocktail waitress before, but I got waaayyyy more sexually harassed as a park ranger. There were also good things tho. Working at an Industrial Revolution site I had multiple people tell me I made them think about the relationship between labor and industry in a new way. And I was able to engage lots of kids whose parents said they weren’t interested in the same subjects in school. Here
    What’s something about working for the NPS that you wish the general public knew or had a better understanding of? The NPS is a large system that encompasses many sites that aren’t just the large national parks – National monuments, National historic sites, etc. the NPS gets a very small sliver of the fed budget and is effectively not allowed to make a profit- so the entrance fees it charges help close the funding gap but they’re not allowed to run them in such a way that would be proactive and self-supporting. Most staff are severely overworked and underpaid. Many of the paid services within national parks are run by private contractors. This includes the reservation website, recreation.gov. It is run by a contractor that is pocketing a lot of the additional charges Here
    What’s the Craziest/Scariest thing you’ve seen on the job? I mostly( but not exclusively) worked at historic sites run by the nps as national monuments. One of the places I had a lot of old mechanical equipment in it. At one point we saw liquid mercury drip from the ceiling. At another place I almost daily had a tourist tell me slavery never happened. Here
    Favorite national park or monument or battlefield? Also, did you work at the same park or did they rotate you? What kind of qualifications did they require you to have? Also, I’m so fucking mad at how they’re treating our parks. All of my childhood vacations revolved around road trips and national parks. (Have an embarrassing amount of Junior Ranger badges collected.) Steamtown national historic site! I’m a labor and tech history wonk. They don’t rotate us, but seasonal jobs are year by year so I (like many others) chose to work at a new site pretty much each year when I was a seasonal. Once I got a permanent job, I would have had to apply for a position at a new site to work somewhere else. Occasionally people do a detail, which is a temporary assignment to another park, or have a regional job that spans multiple parks. Requirements vary by position. For interpretation and education, you generally need a bachelors degree. Mine is in history and I worked mostly at historic sites. However some of my colleagues had jumped from nature sites or had degrees in other subjects. The nps staff is very diverse in terms of work and educational background. I loved my junior rangers 💜 Here
    Did you vote? Yes, for the losing candidate and not in a swing state. I also am a poll worker since because of the nps I always had an odd schedule and was off on Tuesdays Here
    Who did you vote for? The loser Here
    What were your job responsibilities day to day? At the last site I worked for I lead, wrote, and managed tours and educational programs, maintained educational supplies, trained and managed volunteers, ran the site’s social media and other communications, and every few days I’d take a shift on the cash register. Here
    I also heard that the GOV is selling NP land 😢is that their justification for cutting out services , just curious what their rationale is and why So, that’s a part of it. They want to sell a lot of public land, most of which is not nps (run by other orgs like the blm or fs) but some nps land is at risk. Mostly thats the rationale- they want to use it for mining, development, and profit. Additionally, it is reflective of their ideology. They don’t want public education, public resources, or public safety, all of which are functions of the nps. The technique they are using is called “starve the beast” and it has been a strategy for years. People like public schools and parks when they’re good and don’t want to see them shut down or privatized. But if you systemically defund and understaff them, everyone will think they functionally don’t work and will oppose increasing their funding and approve of privatizing them. Here
    How shall you affect your revenge? In the words of Bobby Sands, “our revenge shall be the laughter of our children.” I will continue to live a life focused on education and conservation. They can’t stop me this easily. Here
    Is it a crime to use a (electric) chainsaw to cut down dead trees for firewood That question doesn’t fall under my purview, I worked in education. You might try the r/parkrangers sub Here
    Who did you vote for? I have already answered this question twice. The losing candidate. Here
    This was super interesting. Thank you for putting yourself out there. Good luck with your current job and educational plans.. the world needs more thoughtful people like you.. sending love and respect. Thank you💜 Here
    Doug is evil. That being said, take a mellow occupation like caregiving or retail work. Happy to report I have a new job and am doing ok. Here
    Do you think people resigning is an effective way to protest the policy changes, or are there opportunities for malicious compliance to help obstruct and delay their goals? I think it depends on the person and situation. Both can be the case. I try to not judge anyone because I don’t know what’s going on behind closed doors. Here

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