Honestly? The country would still be divided—just maybe a little quieter about it.
If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, we probably would’ve seen more of the same establishment politics. Less chaos, sure, but also less disruption of the system. Trump didn’t create the division; he just poured gasoline on a fire that was already burning.
That said, without Trump:
The Supreme Court would likely look very different (hello Roe v. Wade still standing).
The pandemic response might’ve been more consistent, maybe less politicized.
The rise of openly far-right movements might’ve stayed a little more underground.
We probably wouldn’t have seen January 6th, or at least not in the same way.
But here’s the kicker—Trump’s election exposed how fragile American institutions really are. If he never won, we might’ve kept sleepwalking through a system that wasn’t working for a lot of people. In a weird way, his presidency was like smashing a mirror—it hurt, but now we can actually see the cracks.
TL;DR: Without Trump, less chaos—but maybe also less clarity about how broken things really are.
Republicans would be non-stop whining about the deficit and the cost of eggs, gas, groceries, and other goods. You know, just like they always do when a Democrat is in charge, before conveniently forgetting about all that the minute a Republican takes over.
It’s very concerning that a lot of people think the issues that we’re facing today is unique to Trump. Trump is just a symptom of the issue, there’s going to be many many more like him because that is what this system produces.
Fascism is growing everywhere, selfishness and greed is on the rise, the billionaire class thinks they’re untouchable, war crimes and crimes against humanity are still happening, poverty and corruption is rampant. If there’s one thing Trump has done it’s that he’s pulled back the curtains a bit so people can see what’s actually going on
You need to go back to 2000 and ask what would have happened if the Electoral College hadn’t overridden the will of the people and the Republican SCOTUS hadn’t thrown the election to the second worst president in our history. The Clinton surpluses and debt paydown would have continued, and we would have avoided at least one war, and quite possibly two.
Note that the Electoral College overrode the will of the people again in 2016 to give us the worst president in our history. In just 16 years, the Electoral College ruined our country, and the popular vote would’ve saved it.
I think the better question is what would the country look like if the Fairness Doctrine hadn’t been abolished by the FCC in the 1980s. With the Fairness Doctrine in place, Fox News doesn’t launch and half the country’s brains don’t get rewired into being mouth-breathing knuckle draggers.
Someone like him would’ve gotten elected eventually. Obama was supposed to be the progressive savior and he just turned out to be a fine centralist president. Democrats would’ve kept on promoting those kind of presidents (Hilary, Biden) that don’t really improve things meaningfully enough (Biden did good things of course) but don’t make it worse. We’ve seen now during Trumps 2nd term how many of the Dems are content with how things are going considering they still get paid by their donors anyways.
The real failure was Gore not being elected. That was the moment where real change could’ve been done especially after the momentum Clinton had. I’ve met plenty of older Repubs who can’t criticize his as president, just that he got a blowy while in office (and that seemingly doesn’t matter anymore lmao)
I often think what it would have been like if Gore had won, then if Clinton had won, or Harris had won … and I would like to think that we’d have socialized medicine; pay attention to climate change and keep making changes in, what I feel, is the best direction.
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For starters, we’d have a lot of the people who died during Covid back, which is one very notable thing that comes to mind
Better
Boring, slow news days. How horrible would that be? You’d have regular worries
Friendlier, saner, and a heck of a lot safer!
Normal. We would be normal.
GOP were going in that direction anyway, he just sped things up. If it wasn’t him, it would be someone else ten years later. It’s like this onion article: https://theonion.com/after-obama-victory-shrieking-white-hot-sphere-of-pure-1819595330/
America would still have friends instead of it being target number 1
A lot less angry.
The people would have more money in their retirement accounts and portfolios. Also the country would still have economic allies.
Honestly? The country would still be divided—just maybe a little quieter about it.
If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016, we probably would’ve seen more of the same establishment politics. Less chaos, sure, but also less disruption of the system. Trump didn’t create the division; he just poured gasoline on a fire that was already burning.
That said, without Trump:
But here’s the kicker—Trump’s election exposed how fragile American institutions really are. If he never won, we might’ve kept sleepwalking through a system that wasn’t working for a lot of people. In a weird way, his presidency was like smashing a mirror—it hurt, but now we can actually see the cracks.
TL;DR: Without Trump, less chaos—but maybe also less clarity about how broken things really are.
The problems that led to Donald Trump would still be fomenting.
A lot of Americans haven’t yet faced that Trump isn’t an anomaly or the disease, he is a symptom of problems we’ve had for a long time.
They’re disappearing people off the streets without due process like what the fuck is this question
Most people wouldn’t even notice politics and the government.
Still at odds, still partisan, and still thinking that this is the worst of times, blissfully unaware of how bad it could actually get.
Republicans would be non-stop whining about the deficit and the cost of eggs, gas, groceries, and other goods. You know, just like they always do when a Democrat is in charge, before conveniently forgetting about all that the minute a Republican takes over.
It’s very concerning that a lot of people think the issues that we’re facing today is unique to Trump. Trump is just a symptom of the issue, there’s going to be many many more like him because that is what this system produces.
Fascism is growing everywhere, selfishness and greed is on the rise, the billionaire class thinks they’re untouchable, war crimes and crimes against humanity are still happening, poverty and corruption is rampant. If there’s one thing Trump has done it’s that he’s pulled back the curtains a bit so people can see what’s actually going on
Let’s see
Assuming she only won the white house but it was a Republican Senate and House
Probably a government shutdown.
Matt Gatez maybe would still be gone, maybe not.
Marco Rubio and Desantis would be preparing for 2028 elections.
Tim Walz would have done something adorable.
And Republicans would have been complaining about the worst economic growth of the first term of a sitting president.
Oh and Musk, hmmm 🤔 🤔 🤔 🤔
What could musk have done in the alt universe where he lost.
We’d probably be mocking him insanely for the whole Xai buys Twitter
Politics would be boring, as it should be.
Better
Right wing news sources would be attacking her character and dress sense while taking shots at the First Husband.
Left wing news sources would already be attacking her about her weak stance in the middle east. Things would be boring
In a much better position.
Remember when the biggest criticism of Biden was that he was boring as shit? Imagine if the worst thing the US had to deal with was a lack of drama.
You need to go back to 2000 and ask what would have happened if the Electoral College hadn’t overridden the will of the people and the Republican SCOTUS hadn’t thrown the election to the second worst president in our history. The Clinton surpluses and debt paydown would have continued, and we would have avoided at least one war, and quite possibly two.
Note that the Electoral College overrode the will of the people again in 2016 to give us the worst president in our history. In just 16 years, the Electoral College ruined our country, and the popular vote would’ve saved it.
Prosperous.
I’d be preordering a Nintendo switch 2.
I kind of want to cry when thinking about that notion. He’s destroyed so much, it would be so different and so many ways.
I think the better question is what would the country look like if the Fairness Doctrine hadn’t been abolished by the FCC in the 1980s. With the Fairness Doctrine in place, Fox News doesn’t launch and half the country’s brains don’t get rewired into being mouth-breathing knuckle draggers.
Fabulously uneventful.
People would still believe that racism doesn’t exist and that many of us who are POC are just overreacting or making things up.
Even though there are people who now see the racism, some still think that Trump caused it (rather than him just revealing what was already there.)
Someone like him would’ve gotten elected eventually. Obama was supposed to be the progressive savior and he just turned out to be a fine centralist president. Democrats would’ve kept on promoting those kind of presidents (Hilary, Biden) that don’t really improve things meaningfully enough (Biden did good things of course) but don’t make it worse. We’ve seen now during Trumps 2nd term how many of the Dems are content with how things are going considering they still get paid by their donors anyways.
The real failure was Gore not being elected. That was the moment where real change could’ve been done especially after the momentum Clinton had. I’ve met plenty of older Repubs who can’t criticize his as president, just that he got a blowy while in office (and that seemingly doesn’t matter anymore lmao)
Women across the US would still have the right to choose what to do with their own bodies.
The sleepy old guy had nine straight quarters of record stock gains and job growth. The smartest businessman in the world fucked it up n 8 weeks
I often think what it would have been like if Gore had won, then if Clinton had won, or Harris had won … and I would like to think that we’d have socialized medicine; pay attention to climate change and keep making changes in, what I feel, is the best direction.
Safe. Trade would work and the American people would be happy. You got what you voted for
I wish time machine to go back and smother baby cheeto in his crib.