I feel like elderly/handicapped and children would be more in play nowadays in principle. But in practice it would be wealthy first, everyone else second regardless of age and gender.
Probably not. An example of a modern day passenger ship accident would be the Costa Concordia, which allowed anybody on the lifeboats no matter who they were. Even the captain. Take that information as you will.
Maybe, maybe not. Women and children first is not some official law. Even in the case of the Titanic, there is an argument that there was miscommunication between the Captain and officers about implementing this policy.
Also, modern passenger ships have enough survival craft for all the passengers. Passengers have specific boat station they report to in the general alarm. It’s possible of course that something renders the survival craft inoperable, but there is no guaranteed rule of what happens then.
No, modern cruise ships have a system to make sure everyone can get off. In fact, you have a designated spot you are suppose to go to just in case that happens. Basically, unless something truly horrible happens (like a missile hitting the ship, or a dumbass captain and 1st and 2nd officer) they are designed to provide more then enough time and boats to get everyone off. The biggest problem the Titanic faced was that there weren’t enough boats to get everyone off.
Officially, the rule for disasters on passenger vessels is “families first”. Whether or not people these days would be sufficiently honorable to sacrifice themselves (as most of the men on the Titanic actually did) is another question
I can see all married / in a relationship men definitely sacrificing themselves for their Wives/Girlfriends and children.
It’s going to be a r/Sipstea moment for couples in a new relationship, going through breakups, are in a toxic relationship or are secretly and publicly single people.
There can’t be children without parents (biological or otherwise) in that cruise so we’re lucky we don’t have to run into any llamas named Carl headbutting children off of a cruise ship.
Nah. That tradition required gentlemen to cede their position of power for the benefit of those seen to be of a lessor status.
The remaining gentlemen in American society are now badged as ‘woke’ and looked down on by the affluent and entitled. It would be bankers and oligarchs in the lifeboats while the women and children went down with the ship.
More likely phrased as parents and children. Then again it would be entirely different given that help would be available with helicopters etc in minutes.
One of the big issues when evacuating the Titanic was the fact that they hadn’t properly planned for this event. There were not enough lifeboats to safely carry everyone aboard which led to the available seats needing to be rationed and people left behind to die. Not to mention other issues such as escape routes, emergency lighting and other problems that effectively trapped a lot of people in the ship with no way out.
If you only have five spaces on a lifeboat and ten people queued up, you need a quick way to acceptably halves your numbers, which in this case meant a lot of people using rationales like ‘women and children first’, ‘first class only’ or ‘passengers before crew’.
But one of the things that came about because of the Titanic disaster was a complete overhaul of safety standards. We looked at all of the things that went so disastrously wrong on the Titanic and determined ways to prevent those happening again – a full provision of lifeboats, proper escape routes, suitable emergency lighting, etc. So that should today’s version of the Titanic sink, many, many more people should be able to escape safely.
probably yes, Europeans are more gentlemanly as we experienced recently especially in Paris. Maybe not here in the US. I even remember a guy told us not to put our bags in the overhead compartment before he does, because he got to the seats first, so rude.,. The French even carried our luggage on the stairs and lifted them onto racks or coaches, the Italians opened doors for us, we don’t experience these here anymore in America, chivalry is gone in the US.
(Former cruise ship crew member) No, all passengers would board lifeboats before crew but aside from that the only people who are told to wait are people who need mobility assistance
Even if we weren’t able to use all the lifeboats for some reason, there was never a rule of “prioritize x group”
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It’s, “every MAN for themself”
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I’d like to think it would, but realistically speaking it wouldn’t.
I feel like elderly/handicapped and children would be more in play nowadays in principle. But in practice it would be wealthy first, everyone else second regardless of age and gender.
I doubt it. I’d probably have to physically fight a man to be able to get on the boat with my children.
Probably not. An example of a modern day passenger ship accident would be the Costa Concordia, which allowed anybody on the lifeboats no matter who they were. Even the captain. Take that information as you will.
Maybe, maybe not. Women and children first is not some official law. Even in the case of the Titanic, there is an argument that there was miscommunication between the Captain and officers about implementing this policy.
Also, modern passenger ships have enough survival craft for all the passengers. Passengers have specific boat station they report to in the general alarm. It’s possible of course that something renders the survival craft inoperable, but there is no guaranteed rule of what happens then.
Most men are women and children nowadays
lol men don’t even want to pay the mother of their children child support, is this question a joke
Not sure, but my guess is it would be more like “children and their mothers” first.
No, modern cruise ships have a system to make sure everyone can get off. In fact, you have a designated spot you are suppose to go to just in case that happens. Basically, unless something truly horrible happens (like a missile hitting the ship, or a dumbass captain and 1st and 2nd officer) they are designed to provide more then enough time and boats to get everyone off. The biggest problem the Titanic faced was that there weren’t enough boats to get everyone off.
Officially, the rule for disasters on passenger vessels is “families first”. Whether or not people these days would be sufficiently honorable to sacrifice themselves (as most of the men on the Titanic actually did) is another question
Ya know how guys think that they could land a plane or fight off a bear?
Extrapolate that trend onto a boat crash.
I can see all married / in a relationship men definitely sacrificing themselves for their Wives/Girlfriends and children.
It’s going to be a r/Sipstea moment for couples in a new relationship, going through breakups, are in a toxic relationship or are secretly and publicly single people.
There can’t be children without parents (biological or otherwise) in that cruise so we’re lucky we don’t have to run into any llamas named Carl headbutting children off of a cruise ship.
Nah. That tradition required gentlemen to cede their position of power for the benefit of those seen to be of a lessor status.
The remaining gentlemen in American society are now badged as ‘woke’ and looked down on by the affluent and entitled. It would be bankers and oligarchs in the lifeboats while the women and children went down with the ship.
there would be more life boats and communications.
You’d get charged with crime if you hadn’t paid extra for the lifeboat insurance. But don’t worry, there is flex option that uses credit…
The last one I can think of was Costa Concordia where the captain left first
No.
Gender equality baby.
I literally thought about this the other day and the answer Is definitely not.
It would probably be everyone but the white people on the rafts. The pride people also would cause a stink and then be put on the rafts first
if I’ve learned anything from portlandia, it’s that in today’s world, it’d be women… and women first
More likely phrased as parents and children. Then again it would be entirely different given that help would be available with helicopters etc in minutes.
Maybe? Does it include men who identify as women?
No, there would be no need.
One of the big issues when evacuating the Titanic was the fact that they hadn’t properly planned for this event. There were not enough lifeboats to safely carry everyone aboard which led to the available seats needing to be rationed and people left behind to die. Not to mention other issues such as escape routes, emergency lighting and other problems that effectively trapped a lot of people in the ship with no way out.
If you only have five spaces on a lifeboat and ten people queued up, you need a quick way to acceptably halves your numbers, which in this case meant a lot of people using rationales like ‘women and children first’, ‘first class only’ or ‘passengers before crew’.
But one of the things that came about because of the Titanic disaster was a complete overhaul of safety standards. We looked at all of the things that went so disastrously wrong on the Titanic and determined ways to prevent those happening again – a full provision of lifeboats, proper escape routes, suitable emergency lighting, etc. So that should today’s version of the Titanic sink, many, many more people should be able to escape safely.
Gender fluidity and equality 😁
I would not wait for the first class passengers!
probably yes, Europeans are more gentlemanly as we experienced recently especially in Paris. Maybe not here in the US. I even remember a guy told us not to put our bags in the overhead compartment before he does, because he got to the seats first, so rude.,. The French even carried our luggage on the stairs and lifted them onto racks or coaches, the Italians opened doors for us, we don’t experience these here anymore in America, chivalry is gone in the US.
(Former cruise ship crew member) No, all passengers would board lifeboats before crew but aside from that the only people who are told to wait are people who need mobility assistance
Even if we weren’t able to use all the lifeboats for some reason, there was never a rule of “prioritize x group”