And I don’t mean constituents, I mean the conservatives in Washington. Or would they continue MAGA? or is it possible Vance tries to pivot from MAGA?
And I don’t mean constituents, I mean the conservatives in Washington. Or would they continue MAGA? or is it possible Vance tries to pivot from MAGA?
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>If Trump dies and Vance becomes POTUS, would conservatives turn against him?
Ideological conservatives would be more likely to support Vance than Trump. Vance is more of an ideological conservative than Trump ever was.
However, many rightists would turn against Vance because:
…and probably other reasons as well.
Maybe, yes. Vance doesn’t have the same cultish grip over MAGA.
But tbh, latest reporting suggests Trump intends to pursue a third term in some way. I’m thinking Putin’s Medvedev play. Have Vance be president in name only.
Yup
I truly don’t think there is anyone alive who can effectively carry the MAGA torch besides Trump. A huge portion of Trump’s voters were people who didn’t think he actually wanted to do what he was campaigning on. Nobody but Trump can be the “say everything and only get credit for what people like” guy. Everyone who has tried has failed catastrophically.
One thing that is true about MAGA is they hate traditional Republicans almost as much as they hate Democrats, but closeted traditional Republicans still make up the majority of elected officials. When Trump dies, the linchpin holding the coalition together dies too.
I expect a massive, prolonged power struggle in the Republican party once Trump is out of the picture entirely.
I get the idea that conservatives in Washington DC don’t love Trump’s style, but they do overall like his domestic policies. So of course they would love Vance, who agrees with Trump’s policies but has a more traditional style.
Probably not, because a lot of Conservatives voted for Trump because of Vance
I think Vance would have more of a mixed bag than Trump does. Vance can’t “scare” Republicans the way Trump can and doesn’t have his connections nor his personality (weird, but Trump’s personality is appealing to some…Vance’s isn’t), but you do have those Republicans who refuse to not support Republicans.
Based on my own experiences with conservatives. I think he wouldn’t get much backing. Not because of anything he did wrong or right but because his wife is not white.
It’d be better to ask conservatives this question.
However, my own theory as a liberal would be that as Vance continues Trump’s vision for the remainder of his term, the base would largely support him… for now. But without electoral pressure from Trump, I suspect many republicans in congress won’t be as eager to give away their powers to the president, or be so forgiving of blatant lawbreaking.
If Vance had to play by the rules, things would move more slowly and start to look more “same old same old”. MAGA would reject this, but traditional conservatives would welcome it. Without a leader to rally around, and with less of a chokehold on congress and the media, the MAGA movement would weaken. As a result, I think the Republican Party would move away from populism and return to traditional conservatism. For the time being at least.
I don’t see why they would. Unless Vance broke with Trump politically before Trump passed away, it would put Vance in the position to act as the natural heir of Trump and to just naturally get most conservative support
The impression I get is that Musk’s money owns the Republican party right now. He said he would fund primary challenges for Republicans who didn’t vote with Trump, and that seems to have whipped them into shape. Since Vance is pretty tied up in the Musk/Thiel ecosystem, it seems to me they would go along with it.
Probably. Trump’s grip over the party is tied to his massive cult, one that loyal to him above all else. Take him out and the cult is a headless chicken.
Depends how he dies. If it’s face down in his McDonalds, or by shitting himself to death on his toilet, then MAGA collapses and everyone on the right pretends they were never really that into it and nobody should investigate all their crimes and it’s old news.
If, however, he gets shot or something, then who can say if he’s deified by the right and everyone just assumes the voice in their head is really him.
Some, yes. The infighting would be fierce. He’d be the de facto maga flag bearer, but I doubt it’d last. I don’t get trumps likability or charisma, but whatever it is Vance doesn’t have it. If he did he’d never have been picked as VP. No one that I can think of off the top of my head could 1 to 1 replace trump at the head of maga. It’s going to be fighting over the scraps of whatever is left in his wake.