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absolutely, it’s all so personal. someone might see you and think you’re everything they’ve ever wanted, while someone else just doesn’t connect the same way. it’s not even just looks either, it’s energy, vibe, the way you laugh at their dumb jokes. beauty really is subjective af.
Yes beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.
But a average person wont become perfect.
Having certain niches, personality traits will bump or drop 1 or max 2 points.
6 to 10 is a huge leap. There are objectively attractive people and subjectively they can be max changed by 2 points. So an 8 can be a 10 in someone’s eyes but to others, they’ll be only an 8
Subjectively sure. I think people should get away from the idea of being a 10. There’s 6s that are objectively pretty. There’s also 6s that aren’t as pretty but have features that make them worth that second look. I might sound harsh but I think 8s are rare to our populations.
Well that’s a silly question.
YES.
That old saying “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is completely accurate.
You could find one person gorgeous while your friends think they’re mid.
Why? Because we are all attracted to different things.
For instance, I am not usually attracted to generically attractive white men. Think any of the Chris’ in Hollywood or whatever. They do nothing for me.
I am much more attracted to what I deem cute men of color. I couldn’t even tell you my “type”.
So don’t worry ( if you are) that someone doesn’t find you attractive, because I promise tons of others do. 😊
my friend finds caucasians or southeast asians attractive, i find east asians attractive, so whenever we show eachother what our “most attractive woman” is, we both think they look just above average.
Stop thinking about these artificial numbers, it’s just a crappy way of thinking.
Yes what is attractive will be very subjective, although there are obviously common trends, often very tied to culture.
Yes I’ve also been unexplainably attracted to women who were definitely not “conventionally attractive”. Strangely those were some of my strongest attractions.
Yes. Attraction is a spectrum. The key is to find someone who finds you attractive. It’s not easy for most ppl. No matter how much ppl on reddit would like you to believe it is.
Also coming from a guy. I would recommend that you shoot your shot more often. Don’t wait around for a guy to approach you.
I hear so many men say they hate fat women and it’s a dealbreaker and I’m over here just… in pure bliss because of the warmth and just general feeling of safety and protection from them.
Point being, there’s so much diversity in preference that pretty much anyone has a niche that can fill
Absolutely, although 6 to 10 is quite a difference.
Case in point: I personally prefer curvy, small women, and I’ve had a lot of discussions with friends who are like “did you see the girl over there? Absolute 9/10 (or 10/10)” and I was like “yeah I can see what you mean, she’s conventionally hot, but I wouldn’t rate her a 9”
Of course. You can see evidence of that all around you. Just look at the celebrities that people think are super hot and amazing looking. Are there any that you think are absolutely unattractive? Well, your 1 might be someone else’s 10.
For example, I find Nicholas Cage physically repulsive, like I can’t even look at him, while I have a relative who thinks he’s one of the best looking actors ever. Lol
For example you show a picture of 35-40 year old Brad Pitt all around the world. The majority of people will say he’s a 10. Some might say 9, even an 8. But a 3 or 4? That’s not going to happen unless they’re really trying to give you a hipster response.
Or show people a photo of an average looking person. You’ll hear 5, 4, 6… Rarely someone will call them 9-10; or 1-2.
So while looks are ultimately subjective, it’s not all random either. With certain exceptions giving different opinions, largely an attractive person will be considered attractive by the overwhelming majority.
If you hear me and my friends talk, nobody agrees on anything. 0-10 is the difference sometimes.
The difference is when we were younger we wanted to fit in and stay silent. As you get older you expand out of the cheerleader is hot view- you just want what you want and don’t care what others think.
I’ve had crushes on women where oh my god, I just fell for her and even had female friends be like- she’s not the most attractive and I think you could do way better- no way, I wouldn’t hear it. 11/10, period. No one is convincing me otherwise.
And if we’re being honest, I can see that she is not attractive per society’s standards but I don’t give a shit- to me she is just a total smokeshow.
Yea. Mental for me. When I’m feeling someone, they are the most beautiful person in the world to me.Corny, I know, should have seen how long it took me to understand what people meant by conventional beauty.
Very possible. Ideas of beauty, compatibility, and charisma very widely. Some features are more predominant than others. The more you vary from those predominant features, the smaller the population who will be attracted to you, but there are no absolutes.
I mean, the simple answer is there are plenty of people that are sufficiently intelligent and nuanced not to reduce everyone they see to a numerical value which holds no real informative quality.
I’m a woman. But some people other describes as 10s, I see as 4s and I think to my self “what on earth do they see in them?”. And then there are some I think are super super attractive and others just don’t see it. So, yeah. At least for women it is a thing I think.
And then there are men that everyone kinda just agree is a solid 7-9
Absolutely! People may think you’re gorgeous and a 10 but if i see you leave your shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot you are swiftly downgraded
Idk about man’s eyes, but i once experienced this “in the eyes of the beholder”, i saw a beautiful boy in my university who was moving with such grace and majesty, like an elf, not human and i was charmed by his appearance. But other girls who were standing near me, laughed at him when he went away, they didn’t say he’s ugly, but in their eyes, he was definitely looking different than in mine. Maybe too feminine for them, idk.
Objectively, probably not. Subjectively, all the time.
Thinking not in terms of beauty but of attraction… the woman I found myself most attracted to in my entire adult life was middle-aged, short, not fat but definitely a little ‘chunky’, no raging beauty, big hands and feet… literally no one I knew could see what I saw, but yeah, it didn’t sway my opinion. Meanwhile, I had women 20 years younger than me who were interested, yet I couldn’t have cared less. At least for a great many people, attraction is mostly mental, not physical.
Such a weird question. You’ve never heard anyone talk about an attractive celebrity and hear a bunch of people say “meh they don’t do it for me”? Do you think everyone finds attraction objectively the same way? Do you assume anyone YOU think is average and is in a relationship is with someone who only did it because they decided to settle? This feels like a question an alien who has never met people would ask.
Yes, absolutely. I have no sense of sexual attraction so I have to go by compatibility and how well I think a woman would be a life partner to me. It is actually more complicated than it sounds. Fortunately, I found a great woman at the perfect time and we’ve been married for 15 years now. I admit she doesn’t look like the girls in magazines or on the TV, but that is an upside to me. I went to school with a lot of future models and they were mean to me. Whenever I see a pop culture “hot girl” I am reminded of the mean girls I grew up with. I don’t want that.
In addition to my own story, I have seen men head over heals in love with a girl I could not wrap my head around why they found them attractive in the first place. Everyone has a type and you may just be someone’s type even if you wouldn’t want to date someone like yourself. It is more of a yin and yang thing. Two parts coming together and being stronger than they would be apart.
everyone has their own preferences and what they think are beautiful, fx.
– some like bald men and some would never date someone who’s bald,
– some loves tattoo’s and others don’t,
– some like brown hair others like blonde hair,
– some likes Asian facial features, some European and some African.
– etc.
So yes, the concept of “beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder” is very true.
Though there are physical and mental traits that are seen as generally more attractive than others, fx. is not being obese generally seen as a desired trait.
Go to Calabasas, California and see what they consider a 10. Then go to east Atlant, Georgia and see what they consider 10. lol two opposite ends of the spectrum. Beautiful is in the eye of the beholder
No. It’s either a lie to make you feel good or a lie to make the guy feel good. Men don’t generally need to think or feel a partner is perfect to commit bc they see the relationship as a series of trade offs, not a search for perfection. There are always exceptions, but generally this is correct in most cases. Now thinking this and saying this is an entirely different thing, bc saying it will generally result in the end of your relationship.
Of course. Beauty is very subjective ‘within reason’. To be someone’s 10 though, you’d have to be at least a 6 on averaeg if a number of people were to vote (god forbid). I very much doubt that a woman I may view as a 1, will be anyone else’s 10 or vice versa. Subjectivity does have limits.
Yes… but don’t get your hopes up too high. I had a him tell me I was an 11/10 andddddd then left me the very next day. Peoples feelings today change on the drop of a dime. It’s as though they expect everything to be a 11/10 at all times, newsflash… life isn’t all strawberries and orgasms.
Don’t allow someone else to rate you or judge you anyway! F’em. The real question is do you feel like you’re a 10 or 6 today? It’s ok to be a 6 every once in awhile….
Most women are extremely insecure and even if they are perfect tens will degrade themselves and truly believe they are lesser
You are attractive to most men don’t fret too much of it there is only competition for the men all women want break your programming go against the grain and go for someone else every other woman is already chasing the guys who are tens and these men know it come down to Earth lol
Absolutely. Someone can be a 10 until they open their mouth, and then they’re a 2. Personality trumps looks every day of the week, and finding that person who meshes with you on a level other than pure looks?
Take it from a guy in his late 50s who’s been married to his first wife for 22 years. Bodies change, hair gets greyer, skin sags, wrinkles appear, but looks never fade.
I once read or heard somewhere that someone was saying that they’re ugly and they don’t like the way they look etc. the guru responded you are just not your type. Everyone has a type. I believe people see beauty differently
There is no such thing as a perfect 10. Everyone has flaws. Finding someone who appreciates you including your flaws it the only thing that matters, not an arbitrary number rating.
Someone who commits to companionship jumps in numbers. Attractive scales are incredibly subjective in nature meaning that no one is using the same scale internally but externally we all assume the scale is static. We believe the scale is purely physical attractiveness when behavioral attractiveness is a major component when we’re internally “calculating” the number.
So in essence getting into a relationship with someone will naturally improve your score but only with your SO. Others will still be judging physical appearance though and everyone’s preferences will be different. Some guy rating, you a 5 is talking to a guy who rates you a 6.5 all the while the guy who rates you a 9 is trying to get you out of your head and in the moment with him.
It seems like it. I’ve been almost obsessed with a woman at work—I find her absolutely stunning. She’s beautiful, short, very intelligent, intimidating, and confident yet reserved. There’s also something about the way she walks. It’s just hard to describe, but I’ve never felt this way about anyone before. I once smiled at her while we were walking past, and she kinda cringed. Anyway, me and a guy coworker were talking about some of the women at work, and I mentioned her. I had to remind him which one she was. He replied “oh, she’s kinda homely”. Yeah I know everyone has different tastes, but I couldn’t understand how he didn’t see her the way I do.
‘Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder’ is true to an extent but overblown. It is mostly objective in my view with a smaller percentage being subjective. There are elements of beauty that are universal. Of course there is also an emotional element but generally speaking 95 people out of 100 are picking prime Carmen Electra over prime Whoppi Goldberg. Beauty being subjective is within a narrow spectrum. Danny DeVito and Angela Merkel are not more attractive than Hugh Jackman and Gisele Bundchen, even 1-2% of the population thinking so doesn’t change the overwhelming majority.
Try to be polarizing. Don’t try to please everybody. Focus on what you really like, who you really are. To some people you will be a 1, too others a 10.
Yup. Absolutely. Ever meet someone who you initially think looks amazing and then they talk for five minutes and they look like a complete tool to you? Or someone whose looks are kinda mid but you talk to them for a bit and now they look amazing? That’s a thing.
Yes, both in a deep and meaningful way and a shallow and superficial way.
A 6 in one’s eyes and a 10 in another based purely on looks. And also 6 in one’ eyes and 10 in another based on personality, or matching insecurities or life stories (matching doesn’t need to mean similar, but good for one-another).
If a woman has an unusual feature that strikes me as gorgeous but someone else as odd because its presentation is too far from the norm, a 6-7 can be a 9-10, for sure.
I think people put too much into the whole 1 – 10 scale, and someone’s physical beauty is a very small part of it. If you think they are a 10, who cares if someone else thinks they are 6. Just live your life and enjoy each other.
There is no such thing as something objectively beautiful, physically or mentally. You can see this in different personality types, there can be people you get along with while there are also people you do not like at all.
Yep. Lots of guys have found me laughably unattractive, but my husband is very attracted to me. Even when I look a mess. I can’t count how many guys turned me down online before I met him.
Absolutely. The scale is relative. For example, a 10 in a small town may only be a 6 in LA or Miami. The most extreme example when Soldiers are deployed. There are very few females so even the ones that would normally be considered unattractive get outsized attention. The term used to describe it is “desert queens”.
Of course. Not everyone likes the same things in a partner or prioritizes and weighs them in the same way. Sure, there may be some commonalities, but there is also enough variation to give rise to such differences of opinions.
duh. even people in my own friend group don’t agree on who’s a 10. my friend showed me a pencil thin, blond man with a “surfer vibe” and told me he’s the hottest man she’s ever seen. i would rate him like a 4, honestly. just not my type at all. so obviously complete strangers will all think differently. everyone has different preferences.
Yes lol. My bf and his best friend have the most opposite tastes in women. I have never met two people who have more different tastes.
Me and my best friend as well always argue about which people are more beautiful because our types are incredibly different. The women I think are basically goddesses she thinks are just mid, same goes for me about the women she likes. Same goes for the men we like.
The more you talk to people about stuff like this the more you ll notice how true the phrase is.
Sure. But it all lies on a bell curve. Most people are attracted to the same people. As you go away from the center of the distribution you see how far it can go
But those people on the ends are rarely desired. The further you are from the end, the more rarely it is that anyone thinks they are attractive.
I think that is just an immutable truth. Not everyone is beautiful. Not everyone is ugly. Some are. I know we wish we didn’t evolve as apes with animal sexuality built into us that causes so many problems. You can say everyone is beautiful till you’re blue in the face but we all know that’s not true.
We just say it because we feel bad about how unfair it really is. And it is unfair. I don’t see how pretending that is reality helps anyone. You have to admit that reality, and offer advice from there. If you don’t admit that reality, the ugly person looking for advice can’t take your advice seriously. Because we all know the real reality of the human biology. We prefer the better looking people and we give them bonuses and freebies and shit.
yep, how I feel about someone has a large impact on how I see them
Then there is also sometimes the effect of culture, for example a SE Asian woman & the people around her see her dark skin and dark hair as less than perfect while her Western boyfriend is completely enamoured of her looks.
No. That’s a lovely phrase but that data shows that people tend to want the same thing in a mate as everyone else in their gender. There are exceptions, so it’s not black and white, but our base preferences are not as unique as we think they are.
Yes 100% because preferences exist this especially goes for the 6-10 range, guy A might say that a girl is only a 6 because of 3 reason but guy B might say that girl is a 10 specifically because of those reasons
Personally there is a certain range/level of chubbiness/fat that I find incredibly attractive (though several clicks past that it spikes down) but for other people even little bit chubby is too much
Yes, especially a man’s eyes. Men are conditioned to prefer certain types over others, and be more picky. If you can break that, you’ll realise attractiveness is a personal thing, and not about the most fashionable sexy look. So many women look amazing, and a lot of men miss out because culture causes them reject all but a narrow body type and look.
A lot of the answers here are really reaching for romance which is cute and all… but lets get back down to earth.
Can a 6 be different to someone else? Sure, there’s wiggle room for preference.
But.. a 10? A legit 10? A 10 is incredible to everyone by definition, they are abnormally attractive in a rare way. Now maybe they drop a couple of points for some people, but you’re not going to swing between a 10 and a 6, it’s like an NBA player playing with random people at the park.
Now, to bring back a touch of romance, you add love to this and that will absolutely magnify how attractive you are to that person. You’re still not going to compete with peak adriana lima on looks alone, but love will make someone walk past Adriana and never stop looking at you.
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absolutely, it’s all so personal. someone might see you and think you’re everything they’ve ever wanted, while someone else just doesn’t connect the same way. it’s not even just looks either, it’s energy, vibe, the way you laugh at their dumb jokes. beauty really is subjective af.
Yeah, absolutely. Some people are really into goth girls but other people want pink prep girls, that’s probably the different between a 6 and a 10.
Yes, definitely. To me, my girl is honestly the most beautiful I’ve ever seen in my life. To other people that would be someone else.
Yes and no.
Yes beauty lies in the eye of the beholder.
But a average person wont become perfect.
Having certain niches, personality traits will bump or drop 1 or max 2 points.
Absolutely not, stop kidding yourself
6 to 10 is a huge leap. There are objectively attractive people and subjectively they can be max changed by 2 points. So an 8 can be a 10 in someone’s eyes but to others, they’ll be only an 8
Sure, especially if you are a kind person
Yes. But tens must always be with tens.
Subjectively sure. I think people should get away from the idea of being a 10. There’s 6s that are objectively pretty. There’s also 6s that aren’t as pretty but have features that make them worth that second look. I might sound harsh but I think 8s are rare to our populations.
Well that’s a silly question.
YES.
That old saying “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” is completely accurate.
You could find one person gorgeous while your friends think they’re mid.
Why? Because we are all attracted to different things.
For instance, I am not usually attracted to generically attractive white men. Think any of the Chris’ in Hollywood or whatever. They do nothing for me.
I am much more attracted to what I deem cute men of color. I couldn’t even tell you my “type”.
So don’t worry ( if you are) that someone doesn’t find you attractive, because I promise tons of others do. 😊
my friend finds caucasians or southeast asians attractive, i find east asians attractive, so whenever we show eachother what our “most attractive woman” is, we both think they look just above average.
Yes
Of course. I bet many “6’s” (or lower) are 10 in my eyes
For sure. If you take an 8, and add piercings and tattoos, some will now see them as a 6, and others will see a 10
Stop thinking about these artificial numbers, it’s just a crappy way of thinking.
Yes what is attractive will be very subjective, although there are obviously common trends, often very tied to culture.
Absolutely yes imo
Different strokes for different folks
Yes I’ve also been unexplainably attracted to women who were definitely not “conventionally attractive”. Strangely those were some of my strongest attractions.
Yes. Attraction is a spectrum. The key is to find someone who finds you attractive. It’s not easy for most ppl. No matter how much ppl on reddit would like you to believe it is.
Also coming from a guy. I would recommend that you shoot your shot more often. Don’t wait around for a guy to approach you.
Yeah. We all have tastes.
Yes, it’s true. Being in love switches off all your judgement and makes a drooling idiot out of you.
somewhat, although I think physical beauty is more objective and personality is subjective but can highly increase someone’s physical attractiveness.
No it’s objective and measurable. Did you not get the secret bro-code pamphlet with rubrics and examples?
Absolutely.
I hear so many men say they hate fat women and it’s a dealbreaker and I’m over here just… in pure bliss because of the warmth and just general feeling of safety and protection from them.
Point being, there’s so much diversity in preference that pretty much anyone has a niche that can fill
yes full stop no explanation needed
Absolutely, although 6 to 10 is quite a difference.
Case in point: I personally prefer curvy, small women, and I’ve had a lot of discussions with friends who are like “did you see the girl over there? Absolute 9/10 (or 10/10)” and I was like “yeah I can see what you mean, she’s conventionally hot, but I wouldn’t rate her a 9”
And vice versa, ofc.
Of course. You can see evidence of that all around you. Just look at the celebrities that people think are super hot and amazing looking. Are there any that you think are absolutely unattractive? Well, your 1 might be someone else’s 10.
For example, I find Nicholas Cage physically repulsive, like I can’t even look at him, while I have a relative who thinks he’s one of the best looking actors ever. Lol
To a degree.
For example you show a picture of 35-40 year old Brad Pitt all around the world. The majority of people will say he’s a 10. Some might say 9, even an 8. But a 3 or 4? That’s not going to happen unless they’re really trying to give you a hipster response.
Or show people a photo of an average looking person. You’ll hear 5, 4, 6… Rarely someone will call them 9-10; or 1-2.
So while looks are ultimately subjective, it’s not all random either. With certain exceptions giving different opinions, largely an attractive person will be considered attractive by the overwhelming majority.
Don’t get your hopes up.
Yes.
Definitely.
Beauty, like art, is subjective.
I’ve got a friend, I’ll call her Sarah, and she thinks she’s a 2 at best. But she’s easily a 10 to me because she’s just such an amazing person.
If you hear me and my friends talk, nobody agrees on anything. 0-10 is the difference sometimes.
The difference is when we were younger we wanted to fit in and stay silent. As you get older you expand out of the cheerleader is hot view- you just want what you want and don’t care what others think.
I’ve had crushes on women where oh my god, I just fell for her and even had female friends be like- she’s not the most attractive and I think you could do way better- no way, I wouldn’t hear it. 11/10, period. No one is convincing me otherwise.
And if we’re being honest, I can see that she is not attractive per society’s standards but I don’t give a shit- to me she is just a total smokeshow.
Yea. Mental for me. When I’m feeling someone, they are the most beautiful person in the world to me.Corny, I know, should have seen how long it took me to understand what people meant by conventional beauty.
The horn wants what the horn wants.
Degustibus et coloribus non est disputandum.
Very possible. Ideas of beauty, compatibility, and charisma very widely. Some features are more predominant than others. The more you vary from those predominant features, the smaller the population who will be attracted to you, but there are no absolutes.
Sure. There are Cali fives but Wisconsin 9s
No. Everyone saying yes is deluded.
I mean, the simple answer is there are plenty of people that are sufficiently intelligent and nuanced not to reduce everyone they see to a numerical value which holds no real informative quality.
I’m a woman. But some people other describes as 10s, I see as 4s and I think to my self “what on earth do they see in them?”. And then there are some I think are super super attractive and others just don’t see it. So, yeah. At least for women it is a thing I think.
And then there are men that everyone kinda just agree is a solid 7-9
My boyfriend calls me beautiful and I think I look like a potato so it’s all in the eyes of the beholder
Absolutely! People may think you’re gorgeous and a 10 but if i see you leave your shopping cart in the middle of the parking lot you are swiftly downgraded
Yes. Its called preferanse
Abso fucking lutely.
Idk about man’s eyes, but i once experienced this “in the eyes of the beholder”, i saw a beautiful boy in my university who was moving with such grace and majesty, like an elf, not human and i was charmed by his appearance. But other girls who were standing near me, laughed at him when he went away, they didn’t say he’s ugly, but in their eyes, he was definitely looking different than in mine. Maybe too feminine for them, idk.
So yeah, it depends.
Nobody is a 10, at least to anybody who knows the scale. Most people give way too high a rating.
1 – really ugly person
2 – moderately ugly persn
3 – average looking person
4 – good looking person
6 – the best looking person you probably know
7 – the best looking person you’ll probably ever meet
8 – model
9 – super model
10 – one of the best looking people to have ever lived in all of history
Objectively, probably not. Subjectively, all the time.
Thinking not in terms of beauty but of attraction… the woman I found myself most attracted to in my entire adult life was middle-aged, short, not fat but definitely a little ‘chunky’, no raging beauty, big hands and feet… literally no one I knew could see what I saw, but yeah, it didn’t sway my opinion. Meanwhile, I had women 20 years younger than me who were interested, yet I couldn’t have cared less. At least for a great many people, attraction is mostly mental, not physical.
Do you and all of your friends perfectly agree on every person’s attractiveness you all see?
Yes, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
Yes but a 6 with the attitude of 10 is annoying.
Such a weird question. You’ve never heard anyone talk about an attractive celebrity and hear a bunch of people say “meh they don’t do it for me”? Do you think everyone finds attraction objectively the same way? Do you assume anyone YOU think is average and is in a relationship is with someone who only did it because they decided to settle? This feels like a question an alien who has never met people would ask.
Yes
Hah yes. The guy that I think is a perfect ten is a minus in my friends eyes. Go figure
Yes. Numbers don’t count though, it’s the person and the little spark they give you that does.
Yes absolutely! We have different taste and different preferences. It goes both ways as well…
Everyone is a 10 in someone’s eyes.
Yes, absolutely. I have no sense of sexual attraction so I have to go by compatibility and how well I think a woman would be a life partner to me. It is actually more complicated than it sounds. Fortunately, I found a great woman at the perfect time and we’ve been married for 15 years now. I admit she doesn’t look like the girls in magazines or on the TV, but that is an upside to me. I went to school with a lot of future models and they were mean to me. Whenever I see a pop culture “hot girl” I am reminded of the mean girls I grew up with. I don’t want that.
In addition to my own story, I have seen men head over heals in love with a girl I could not wrap my head around why they found them attractive in the first place. Everyone has a type and you may just be someone’s type even if you wouldn’t want to date someone like yourself. It is more of a yin and yang thing. Two parts coming together and being stronger than they would be apart.
how someone looks and how attractive they are is not a 1:1 ratio
Everyone has a demographic. Everyone.
yes?
everyone has their own preferences and what they think are beautiful, fx.
– some like bald men and some would never date someone who’s bald,
– some loves tattoo’s and others don’t,
– some like brown hair others like blonde hair,
– some likes Asian facial features, some European and some African.
– etc.
So yes, the concept of “beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder” is very true.
Though there are physical and mental traits that are seen as generally more attractive than others, fx. is not being obese generally seen as a desired trait.
Go to Calabasas, California and see what they consider a 10. Then go to east Atlant, Georgia and see what they consider 10. lol two opposite ends of the spectrum. Beautiful is in the eye of the beholder
ABSOLUTELY!!!!!
Duh
No. It’s either a lie to make you feel good or a lie to make the guy feel good. Men don’t generally need to think or feel a partner is perfect to commit bc they see the relationship as a series of trade offs, not a search for perfection. There are always exceptions, but generally this is correct in most cases. Now thinking this and saying this is an entirely different thing, bc saying it will generally result in the end of your relationship.
As I get older, yes.
Of course. Beauty is very subjective ‘within reason’. To be someone’s 10 though, you’d have to be at least a 6 on averaeg if a number of people were to vote (god forbid). I very much doubt that a woman I may view as a 1, will be anyone else’s 10 or vice versa. Subjectivity does have limits.
Absolutely
Yes. Whenever I pick out the type that looks like a 10 to me, my friends look at me with utter disbelief and disgust
That is very true indeed. Beauty really IS in the eye of the beholder.
Definitely. The most beautiful woman I have met would probably rate lower with others as the things I find attractive others may not.
Yes… but don’t get your hopes up too high. I had a him tell me I was an 11/10 andddddd then left me the very next day. Peoples feelings today change on the drop of a dime. It’s as though they expect everything to be a 11/10 at all times, newsflash… life isn’t all strawberries and orgasms.
Don’t allow someone else to rate you or judge you anyway! F’em. The real question is do you feel like you’re a 10 or 6 today? It’s ok to be a 6 every once in awhile….
Obviously?
Most women are extremely insecure and even if they are perfect tens will degrade themselves and truly believe they are lesser
You are attractive to most men don’t fret too much of it there is only competition for the men all women want break your programming go against the grain and go for someone else every other woman is already chasing the guys who are tens and these men know it come down to Earth lol
Oh yes. I’ve seen women who look totally adorable to me yet do nothing for another guy.
Absolutely. Someone can be a 10 until they open their mouth, and then they’re a 2. Personality trumps looks every day of the week, and finding that person who meshes with you on a level other than pure looks?
Take it from a guy in his late 50s who’s been married to his first wife for 22 years. Bodies change, hair gets greyer, skin sags, wrinkles appear, but looks never fade.
Yes! It’s very possible!
Definitely. 100%.
I don’t get why people are like this
Yes, it’s very true
I once read or heard somewhere that someone was saying that they’re ugly and they don’t like the way they look etc. the guru responded you are just not your type. Everyone has a type. I believe people see beauty differently
Definitely. I find things attractive that my friends do not.
There is the perfect lid to every kettle
Sort of. Men who don’t have access to women might treat a 6 like she’s a 10 because he doesn’t have access to 10s. It’s all about relative mate value.
Yes, entirely. Haven’t you ever had a friend say hey that person is hot, and you’re like uh…nah.
There is no such thing as a perfect 10. Everyone has flaws. Finding someone who appreciates you including your flaws it the only thing that matters, not an arbitrary number rating.
Someone who commits to companionship jumps in numbers. Attractive scales are incredibly subjective in nature meaning that no one is using the same scale internally but externally we all assume the scale is static. We believe the scale is purely physical attractiveness when behavioral attractiveness is a major component when we’re internally “calculating” the number.
So in essence getting into a relationship with someone will naturally improve your score but only with your SO. Others will still be judging physical appearance though and everyone’s preferences will be different. Some guy rating, you a 5 is talking to a guy who rates you a 6.5 all the while the guy who rates you a 9 is trying to get you out of your head and in the moment with him.
It seems like it. I’ve been almost obsessed with a woman at work—I find her absolutely stunning. She’s beautiful, short, very intelligent, intimidating, and confident yet reserved. There’s also something about the way she walks. It’s just hard to describe, but I’ve never felt this way about anyone before. I once smiled at her while we were walking past, and she kinda cringed. Anyway, me and a guy coworker were talking about some of the women at work, and I mentioned her. I had to remind him which one she was. He replied “oh, she’s kinda homely”. Yeah I know everyone has different tastes, but I couldn’t understand how he didn’t see her the way I do.
Of course not. Beauty is objective fact, otherwise we’d have saying like “beauty is in the eye of the beholder” or other such nonsense 🙄
Yes. Some guys are ass men, others are boobie guys.
Yeah but only because men aren’t honest about those numbers either.
‘Beauty lies in the eye of the beholder’ is true to an extent but overblown. It is mostly objective in my view with a smaller percentage being subjective. There are elements of beauty that are universal. Of course there is also an emotional element but generally speaking 95 people out of 100 are picking prime Carmen Electra over prime Whoppi Goldberg. Beauty being subjective is within a narrow spectrum. Danny DeVito and Angela Merkel are not more attractive than Hugh Jackman and Gisele Bundchen, even 1-2% of the population thinking so doesn’t change the overwhelming majority.
Try to be polarizing. Don’t try to please everybody. Focus on what you really like, who you really are. To some people you will be a 1, too others a 10.
I thought my ex was the hottest guy ever – my friends thought he looked like a potato.
Yup. Absolutely. Ever meet someone who you initially think looks amazing and then they talk for five minutes and they look like a complete tool to you? Or someone whose looks are kinda mid but you talk to them for a bit and now they look amazing? That’s a thing.
Also, tastes may vary.
Yup
Beauty is ultimately subjective, so yes.
What direction, front, side, rear, top.
There will be a lot of differing opinions on this, my answer is no.
To be a perfect 10 to me you have to be ‘perfect; in all areas of your life and all attributes.
If you are nice, intelligent and good looking but not gorgeous you are not a 10.
If you are intelligent and gorgeous but not really nice you are not a 10.
Someone can value highly some thing over others and call you a 10 but they are lieing.
The one person has called you a 6 for some reason, there is something that is not ’10’ about you.
The 1-10 rating gets tossed around a lot but is not very meaningful in the grand scheme. There are alsmot no 10’s in this world.
If you find a 6 or 7 in this world in your own rating game you should be very very happy aobut it.
One man’s garbage is another man’s treasure
Yes. As the song says: “diff’rent strokes for diff’rent folks.”
Not six, maybe an eight.
Yes, both in a deep and meaningful way and a shallow and superficial way.
A 6 in one’s eyes and a 10 in another based purely on looks. And also 6 in one’ eyes and 10 in another based on personality, or matching insecurities or life stories (matching doesn’t need to mean similar, but good for one-another).
If a woman has an unusual feature that strikes me as gorgeous but someone else as odd because its presentation is too far from the norm, a 6-7 can be a 9-10, for sure.
Take bill belichek and that jezebel 😂 for instance
I think people put too much into the whole 1 – 10 scale, and someone’s physical beauty is a very small part of it. If you think they are a 10, who cares if someone else thinks they are 6. Just live your life and enjoy each other.
Yes. Omg you’re so close to realizing it.
There is no such thing as something objectively beautiful, physically or mentally. You can see this in different personality types, there can be people you get along with while there are also people you do not like at all.
Yep. Lots of guys have found me laughably unattractive, but my husband is very attracted to me. Even when I look a mess. I can’t count how many guys turned me down online before I met him.
Absolutely. The scale is relative. For example, a 10 in a small town may only be a 6 in LA or Miami. The most extreme example when Soldiers are deployed. There are very few females so even the ones that would normally be considered unattractive get outsized attention. The term used to describe it is “desert queens”.
Beauty is subjective
Yes
Yes. A girl I liked told me she wasn’t attracted to me and then hooked up with one of the ugliest people I’ve ever known.
Check the story of the hot persian princess.
Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder
A 6 is a 6, but love doesn’t care about numbers.
Of course. Not everyone likes the same things in a partner or prioritizes and weighs them in the same way. Sure, there may be some commonalities, but there is also enough variation to give rise to such differences of opinions.
Yes
Absolutely. Can’t you do that for men?
Of course
Most definitely. The person who looks at you decides what you’re worth to them.
Yes.
Absolutely.
You’ve never seen an attractive person with an obese person?
Yes
Vanity is subjective. Absolutely.
Yes!
Well yes
Absolutely.
duh. even people in my own friend group don’t agree on who’s a 10. my friend showed me a pencil thin, blond man with a “surfer vibe” and told me he’s the hottest man she’s ever seen. i would rate him like a 4, honestly. just not my type at all. so obviously complete strangers will all think differently. everyone has different preferences.
Yes, next question.
Be a 10 in your own eyes and fuck everybody else. And watch your stock soar!
Yes lol. My bf and his best friend have the most opposite tastes in women. I have never met two people who have more different tastes.
Me and my best friend as well always argue about which people are more beautiful because our types are incredibly different. The women I think are basically goddesses she thinks are just mid, same goes for me about the women she likes. Same goes for the men we like.
The more you talk to people about stuff like this the more you ll notice how true the phrase is.
No.
Sure. But it all lies on a bell curve. Most people are attracted to the same people. As you go away from the center of the distribution you see how far it can go
But those people on the ends are rarely desired. The further you are from the end, the more rarely it is that anyone thinks they are attractive.
I think that is just an immutable truth. Not everyone is beautiful. Not everyone is ugly. Some are. I know we wish we didn’t evolve as apes with animal sexuality built into us that causes so many problems. You can say everyone is beautiful till you’re blue in the face but we all know that’s not true.
We just say it because we feel bad about how unfair it really is. And it is unfair. I don’t see how pretending that is reality helps anyone. You have to admit that reality, and offer advice from there. If you don’t admit that reality, the ugly person looking for advice can’t take your advice seriously. Because we all know the real reality of the human biology. We prefer the better looking people and we give them bonuses and freebies and shit.
Yes. What one person sees as an attractive trait can be a con to another person.
Absolutely
Of courseeee definitely
100%
I love big butts i cannot lie
Yeah of course, everyone is into what they’re into.
yep, how I feel about someone has a large impact on how I see them
Then there is also sometimes the effect of culture, for example a SE Asian woman & the people around her see her dark skin and dark hair as less than perfect while her Western boyfriend is completely enamoured of her looks.
No. That’s a lovely phrase but that data shows that people tend to want the same thing in a mate as everyone else in their gender. There are exceptions, so it’s not black and white, but our base preferences are not as unique as we think they are.
Yes. Especially when you consider how many women a man sees as a ten that see themselves as a 1
Yes 100% because preferences exist this especially goes for the 6-10 range, guy A might say that a girl is only a 6 because of 3 reason but guy B might say that girl is a 10 specifically because of those reasons
Personally there is a certain range/level of chubbiness/fat that I find incredibly attractive (though several clicks past that it spikes down) but for other people even little bit chubby is too much
Yes
Of course
Yes, especially a man’s eyes. Men are conditioned to prefer certain types over others, and be more picky. If you can break that, you’ll realise attractiveness is a personal thing, and not about the most fashionable sexy look. So many women look amazing, and a lot of men miss out because culture causes them reject all but a narrow body type and look.
Absolutely, yes.
absolutely. my friend thinks girls I like are fat and ugly. I like European girls, Latinas with healthy curves
he only likes asian girls under 100 lbs with a boyish figure
Absolutely yes
A lot of the answers here are really reaching for romance which is cute and all… but lets get back down to earth.
Can a 6 be different to someone else? Sure, there’s wiggle room for preference.
But.. a 10? A legit 10? A 10 is incredible to everyone by definition, they are abnormally attractive in a rare way. Now maybe they drop a couple of points for some people, but you’re not going to swing between a 10 and a 6, it’s like an NBA player playing with random people at the park.
Now, to bring back a touch of romance, you add love to this and that will absolutely magnify how attractive you are to that person. You’re still not going to compete with peak adriana lima on looks alone, but love will make someone walk past Adriana and never stop looking at you.