Growing up, I had anxiety about the IRS because we would receive both letters and calls about my dad not paying taxes. He was self employed and didn’t believe he owed the government anything. The IRS never actually did anything about it other than threaten to do something about it. Maybe because he had so many kids they figured he wouldn’t truly owe all that much.
When I was in high school, I had a conversation with my grandma of how she gets money (pension and social security) every month. She explained that my dad was “stupid” for never paying taxes cause he won’t qualify for S.S.
So I went home and asked him about it. His response?
“Why do you think I had 8 kids? You guys will pay for me in the future, just like how I paid for you when you were a kid.”
Mind you, we were heavily supported by my grandparents. My grandma built and paid off a house for them with her 401k. My mom didn’t work ands so we just had one income.
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Well your dad did the f*** around portion of his life and now he’s about to find out that kids are not a bank account. I would absolutely never help him with money.
Lmfao, it’s cheaper to pay your taxes than raise 8 kids, what an asshole. Don’t give him a dime OP! He’s entitled to nothing of yours
I am not an expert nor a lawyer. Don’t take my word as law.
I believe that the legislation was in place that even if you hadn’t paid into social security, you’d still be able to apply for and collect a stipend. The idea was that this would be mainly housewives who were SAHM and needed assistance when their husbands died—they’d be eligible for some pittance. If he was self employed, he should have paid into SS from every paycheck and then additional money as the employer match.
If the taxes are a big issue, though, then any SS he might have gotten will be garnished for them. So effectively he might not get anything. And when they catch up with him, all of his salaries and pensions and so on get garnished. Even his estate will be used for debts and taxes first so there potentially nothing when he dies. (Which a reasonable and caring parent would not want but here we are.)
Not an expert but this is my understanding.
Happily, the debts would officially end with his death I would think. They’d get whatever out of the estate and then have to write it off.
I’d suggest getting all the siblings together and tell them point blank that he is counting on you all footing the bill for his retirement. They are welcome to make their own choices about it but your stance is….(fill in the blanks). And I’d point out that this literally is his stated goal and not something that “might” happen.
Although I hate paying taxes I will look forward to that $1800 a month at 62. Wife should get about $1500. Add in my $7,000-$8,000 pension and we will be fine
My mom got to retirement age and tried to pull this. 🤣
This was 3 years after I went no contact.
Thank you for sharing. This reminded me that my dad always got very angry around tax time, and probably bc didn’t believe he should have to pay or file them. He hated any kind of authority.