People should stop supporting Spotify, they are severely underpaying artists worldwide

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Spotify pays artists around: $0.003 to $0.004 per stream.

Deezer: $0.007

Apple Music: $0.0061 to $0.0084

Amazon Music: $0.0096

Tidal: $0.01284

Qobuz: $0.01873

So if you pay a monthly fee for Spotify, why not just switch to a platform that pays artists 5 times more?

Personally I find it hard to tell people to use Qobuz because it costs $12.99 or $10.83 with a yearly subscription.

Tidal costs as much as Spotify though so try that maybe.

I also like Deezer because they also offer a yearly subscription that costs around

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  2. CapMyster Avatar

    I just use yt music

  3. sendme_your_cats Avatar

    Oh no, millionaires aren’t getting as much money as they could for a service I pay for?

    Does limewire still work?

  4. uncreative_uname8156 Avatar
  5. Adventurous_Toe_1686 Avatar

    Sure, but Spotify are also exposing those artists to a user base of 100m+ active listeners.

    There’s nothing stopping those artists from also streaming on those other platforms.

  6. SuspiciouslyB Avatar

    Spotify isn’t their only source of income. So even if Spotify is paying less, Artists are still being paid hansomly by all their services combined. Not to mention licensing royalties to these companies too.

  7. BeanyIsDaBean Avatar

    So how much does yt music pay?

  8. opscurus_dub Avatar

    For independent artists, I agree.

    For major label artists, do you really think they get paid from streams and album sales?

  9. SomeoneWhoLikesAmeme Avatar

    And the spotify app got so incredibly slow

  10. Fine_Cap402 Avatar

    The amount of money an “entertainer” earns isn’t my concern. Could give a flying fuck if they are being cheated or not. They have a voice, options, and free will.

  11. dANNN738 Avatar

    I’ve had Spotify since it released and never paid a penny. Not sure why people bother tbh 🤷🏼‍♂️

  12. TheHvam Avatar

    >So if you pay a monthly fee for Spotify, why not just switch to a platform that pays artists 5 times more?

    Because I have been using Spotify for well over a decade, and I got all my music and playlists on there, having to move that to some other streaming service, and then get use to that there, that is a lot of work to do.

  13. yourpaljk Avatar

    Use whatever you want, if you want to support your favourite artists, buy their albums.

  14. rc_roadster Avatar

    Issue between Spotify and the artist. Not me.

    They can take their music off the service if they want. Use only the ones that pay more. I don’t care.

    I use Spotify because it serves me best.

  15. dopaminedandy Avatar

    Spotify is still better than all of these other services combined.

    And head up, I wouldn’t even use Apple music if Apple pays me   to use it. 

  16. stxxyy Avatar

    It’s their own decision to end up on Spotify.

  17. Lufia321 Avatar

    >costs around

    bruh.

  18. OneCalledMike Avatar

    Artists decide to have their music on Spotify. I don’t care how much they get paid. That is between them and the company.

  19. Mushrooming247 Avatar

    Let me know which artist needs an application for Wendy’s. I know times are hard.

  20. wadejohn Avatar

    Those artistes get higher volume through Spotify though. So it’s likely the Spotify checks are larger in general.

  21. CaptainAmeriZa Avatar

    My unpopular opinion is that artists are not underpaid at all. At the rate of $0.003 per stream, Taylor swift still made about $80 million from Spotify last year. Explain to me why musicians deserve that kind of pay.

  22. jammy8892 Avatar

    I’ve paid to see live performances of dozens of artists that I discovered through Spotify, which is a huge benefit to them.

  23. Itchy_Ad_5958 Avatar

    will you open up a shop infront of a road that has 10000 people going through daily or one that has 10 million

    thats just how economy of scale works coz they artists are making WAY more in spotify than the other platforms

  24. Any_Leg_1998 Avatar

    Yea I might switch over to youtube music, apparently spotify is going to add ad’s to the paid version and there will be another tier that is more expensive but no ads.

  25. dennis3282 Avatar

    It is the other platforms’ job to do better marketing and convince me to leave spotify.

  26. rcatf Avatar

    Your point is irrelevant. Would you rather make $5/Burger and sell $20 million worth, or $1 million/burger and sell nothing? Spotify is the biggest app. The artists are making more there than anywhere else.

  27. Kcufasu Avatar

    Reality is most people will save themselves money over giving money to already wealthy artists. After all 99.9% of people are not listening to some small time artist on Spotify who desperately needs the money

  28. Strobacaxi Avatar

    Artists agree to the fee they get from Spotify I couldn’t care less

  29. RangoTheMango- Avatar

    It’s also a competitive market Apple music and YouTube, Amazon, Deezer, SoundCloud – compare all of them Spotify is the best for the user maybe not the artist

  30. Baron-Von-Mothman Avatar

    You are 100% correct and if it is an unpopular opinion then others don’t care about musicians being exploited as long as they get their cheap access to music.

  31. Adoptafurrie Avatar

    Most artists on Spotify have millions more dollars than I do, so I really dgaf

  32. harveynoodleman Avatar

    I switched to TIDAL a few years ago and it’s much better audio and algorithm and they pay artists better. Not sure why more people don’t switch tbh, Spotify really isn’t that good.

  33. Glittering_Virus8397 Avatar

    It’s about ease of access and exposure. If you want to support them buy their vinyl/CD

  34. lost-11 Avatar

    Plus Spotify has a lot of other shady practices. Like, really, just gooogle Spotify and you will find them doing something questionable. Sure, other services are far from saints, but Spotify is easily the greediest.

    P.S. I also prefer Deezer

  35. dargonmike1 Avatar

    Apple Music best music highest quality music best variety, early releases, best personal discovery station. It’s a no brainer

  36. turtleship_2006 Avatar

    >So if you pay a monthly fee for Spotify

    And if I don’t? Less than 40% of monthly active users are subscribed to premium. (they mention 675 MAUs and 263 subs, not percentages directly.)

    Those 60% of users make spotify less money, so when spotify shares the same percentage of revenue they make (70%), the total that the artists get is less

    ~40% of their users were responsible for 87% of their revenue

  37. Lovely_Chaos_Dude Avatar

    I’m a composer for video games and films. I fully support this message. What Spotify pays is ridiculous.

  38. MyCatIsAnActualNinja Avatar

    Yeah, they’re greedy bastards. But exposure!! You don’t automatically get exposure on spotify, you have to do that work as well. People defending then suck as well. It’s a big corporation getting rich off the backs of artists who put the work into making the art. Big artists do get paid. They get contracts.

  39. letMeHearYouSayMoo Avatar

    I don’t understand this logic. By this logic if I listen to 10 songs from an album 100 times, that’s 101000.003, that’s 3$. I pay the artists in perpetuity, isn’t it better? If I buy an album, I pay once and never again.

  40. noxvita83 Avatar

    This has been basically true to various degrees with every recorded medium from albums (regardless of 8-track, vinyl, cassette, cd), radio, and streaming. Their income has always been supported by merch and concerts. If this bothers you, put your money where your mouth is and go to their websites, buy merch, and attend tons of concerts. Doing anything else supports them being underpaid.

  41. Vox_SFX Avatar

    Did everyone forget that artists of any type are creatives?

    In no corner of this planet are you expected to DESERVE anything for a personal creative project, so the fact any streaming service pays out ANYTHING or even plays the music is already a benefit the artist didn’t have beforehand.

  42. bluewaffles755 Avatar

    Oh no, im sorry that my convenience and financial status is making millionaire artists so little money. Man whatchu worried about, as if any of the top artists are missing out on money.

  43. Reddish_Blue92 Avatar

    Ah man the comments 💀 they’re not only shafting their artists, they really have no respect for their listeners or their employees, I know cause I worked there, I can’t say much unfortunately

  44. con_papaya Avatar

    I buy albums.

  45. Quetas83 Avatar

    Change the name to r/retardedtakes

  46. baievaN Avatar

    i prefer to pay to Swedish company than any of the american giving the current political situation

  47. Creepy_Cupcake3705 Avatar

    Artists should stop accepting bad record deals where their label agrees to stream their music for pennies. It’s not on us.

  48. skordge Avatar

    Yes.

    One good live gig typically has given me more profit from selling music (not even talking about merch) than Spotify has ever given me in a lifetime. If the band is not coming to play live near you – check if they have a Bandcamp. Even after the Epic takeover, they’re still the most artist-friendly way of getting digital music.

    Don’t even get me started about the shithead CEO of Spotify, who has the nerve of basically telling artists that they should adapt by releasing slop every month, so that it’s easier to monetize: https://www.nme.com/news/music/spotify-ceo-says-its-not-enough-for-artists-to-release-albums-every-3-4-years-2719272

    Maybe while I’m at it I should film some Tik Toks and get an OnlyFans started to “promote my brand”, instead of writing and playing music. “Continuously engage” on my balls, Daniel Spotify.

  49. Interesting_Loquat90 Avatar

    Sweet summer child. How far we have come from the Napster and Lime Wire days.

  50. SCViper Avatar

    I would love to see The Andrews Sisters live, but I’m not at a WW2 USO show.

  51. MrKusakabe Avatar

    Spotify is for me only good for one thing: I can grab a clean 640×640 album art from them. Google search for album/track and then “spotify”, going to the search tab and grab the thing. Better than those awful Discogs cover scans and photos ^^

    Else: I don’t stream music. I have a highly curated local library on my disks and I rather pay for a few gems than have tons of rubbish for a monthly fee. Discovering happens via Discogs or Youtube.

  52. Throw_Me_Away8834 Avatar

    Eh this is really between the artists, labels, and streaming services. I support artists I love by attending concerts and buying their records and merch. I’ve used Spotify since I was a teenager. It will simply take too long to get another streaming service to understand my tastes the way that Spotify does at this point. Spotify algorithm knowing and understanding my tastes gets me introduced to smaller indie artists that I likely would have never heard otherwise regularly also and I would lose that for the foreseeable future by waiting for some other service to figure me out. Is that selfish of me? Probably and maybe I would feel bad about that if I wasn’t supporting in other ways but I am so I don’t feel bad.

  53. MaineHippo83 Avatar

    No stat on YouTube music?