She left because I wasn’t “stable” enough, how do I date without that pressure again?

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I’m a 27-year-old guy, and last year I earned $38k (before taxes) running my own marketing business (the business made $80k, but split with my biz partner). Before that, I worked at a marketing agency making $20/hour (a lot of marketing jobs have terrible pay), which was one of the main reasons I decided to go off on my own. I also have a bachelors degree in marketing.

I have my own apartment and about $25k saved between my checking account, stocks, and a Roth IRA. Not to toot my own horn, but I am relatively good looking and take care of myself physically but also tend to be shy and introverted.

I’ll be honest, I’m feeling a bit insecure about dating again. My last relationship ended about four months ago, partly because I wasn’t as financially stable as my ex wanted me to be. She was an engineer making $80k and was ready to travel and enjoy life, while I was still putting in the work to grow my business. She had a certain timeline of when she wanted things done, and I was struggling to keep up and felt a strong lack of encouragement, I also had to move in with my parents at the time to save money and not stress too much during my first year of business.

I’d like to start dating again in a few months, but it feels like a lot of women have high expectations around money these days. Sometimes it seems like those standards are tough to meet, especially so quickly, even when you’re working hard and driven.

I did go through a bit of a depressive period during my last relationship, mostly because of those expectations. I guess I’m a little traumatized by that, but I really do want to find someone who accepts me for who I am and appreciates my drive and wants to grow with me.

This might sound a little silly, but I want to find someone who loves me for who I am right now, so I can feel confident that I chose the right person because if I do end up making a lot of money later, it might be harder to know if they’re with me for the right reasons.

Is it wrong to want to start dating in a couple months, or should I focus on building my business and finances up first?

I think I just need to hear some real opinions cause I tend to other think.

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  1. AutoModerator Avatar

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    I’m a 27-year-old guy, and last year I earned $38k (before taxes) running my own marketing business (the business made $80k, but split with my biz partner). Before that, I worked at a marketing agency making $20/hour (a lot of marketing jobs have terrible pay), which was one of the main reasons I decided to go off on my own. I also have a bachelors degree in marketing.

    I have my own apartment and about $25k saved between my checking account, stocks, and a Roth IRA. Not to toot my own horn, but I am relatively good looking and take care of myself physically but also tend to be shy and introverted.

    I’ll be honest, I’m feeling a bit insecure about dating again. My last relationship ended about four months ago, partly because I wasn’t as financially stable as my ex wanted me to be. She was an engineer making $80k and was ready to travel and enjoy life, while I was still putting in the work to grow my business. She had a certain timeline of when she wanted things done, and I was struggling to keep up and felt a strong lack of encouragement, I also had to move in with my parents at the time to save money and not stress too much during my first year of business.

    I’d like to start dating again in a few months, but it feels like a lot of women have high expectations around money these days. Sometimes it seems like those standards are tough to meet, especially so quickly, even when you’re working hard and driven.

    I did go through a bit of a depressive period during my last relationship, mostly because of those expectations. I guess I’m a little traumatized by that, but I really do want to find someone who accepts me for who I am and appreciates my drive and wants to grow with me.

    This might sound a little silly, but I want to find someone who loves me for who I am right now, so I can feel confident that I chose the right person because if I do end up making a lot of money later, it might be harder to know if they’re with me for the right reasons.

    Is it wrong to want to start dating in a couple months, or should I focus on building my business and finances up first?

    I think I just need to hear some real opinions cause I tend to other think.

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  2. MDFHASDIED Avatar

    Sounds like you dodged a bullet.

  3. goobersmooch Avatar

    Don’t go looking for a mate, but instead just be willing to find one. 

    In the meantime, work on you. Build your book. 

  4. Far-Potential3634 Avatar

    “Travel and enjoy life” wishes may indicate a consumerist bent. While this may be standard issue these days, not all women are like this.

  5. 842154238421542 Avatar

    Every trauma shapes you into a better person, in my opinion. If you feel ready to meet a new woman, then do it. But no one is going to give you the validation that you are enough now or make enough money or anything else. You need to be happy and at peace with yourself.

  6. AddictedToMosh161 Avatar

    Look my guy, live the way you are happy. Make yourself happy. Every woman can either like your life and add to it, or dont like it and leave. That includes life goals etc.

    And yes, you can build your finances up and get jacked to attract more women. If you want hook ups. Cause those are one and done or short term things. If you how ever look for a long term partner… only do what you can live with aka hold up. Cause you will either stop one day and she will resent you, or you will die of heart failure from the stress your act puts on you.

  7. seneeb Avatar

    Yeah…… You lucked out. She wants flashy. You are financially stable. And doing it the boring way, which is the most successful way. Keep doing what you’re doing, it’s ok to be single

  8. scallionparsley Avatar

    Well she didn’t deem you suitable when you are pulling in 38k a year she certainly not deserve you when you start pulling in 380k or 3.8M when your business takes off.

    Don’t be stressed, bro. You will have plenty of choices later on.

  9. HeavenBlade117 Avatar

    It wasn’t you bro.

    She wanted a conscience free escape and that “you’re not stable enough!” comment was her way of absolving herself of guilt and accountability from walking away from you.

    Probably into the arms of another dude that seemed more “stable” oftentimes, women will say they like guys that make money but what they really mean is they like guys that are generous with their money.

  10. stormlight89 Avatar

    Don’t worry about this right now. Focus on building your business and yourself. Women will come and go in this time, or you might find someone special, or you may not find anyone. All these are fine, keep building.

    I promise you there’s a plenty of women out there that a) see your potential and will build with you and b) will not care about these arbitrary lines.

    I was lucky enough to find both in one woman, but I didn’t even meet her till I was 29. And brother I was way behind you on the curve when I was 27. It’s your life, and there is no other purpose than to live it to the best of your ability.

  11. Fearless_Comment8594 Avatar

    Oh god you dodged a bullet. Those woman are a waste of time

  12. Snowbirdy Avatar

    Perhaps you should try dating women who are a little more bohemian.

    To an engineer making $80k, a guy who doesn’t pay for expensive meals, and trips to Cabo may look unstable.

    To an artist, a guy who has his own apartment and a regular income will look brilliantly stable.

  13. L3onK1ng Avatar

    You wouldn’t want to build a life with her anyway. If that girl was all about spending money, the moment something went wrong with your life or business (like a big customer going away, or you breaking a leg or being in a car crash) she would dump you immediately.

    She is just one of the people like that.

  14. krooks_25 Avatar

    I wish I could weigh in on this in a way you would understand but I feel as though it’s impossible given your predisposition and overall mindset. All I can really say is that you dodged a silver bullet. No amount of stability would have been satisfactory in her eyes. That’s that. Find someone that accepts you for who you are where you are and when you are. If you can’t grasp that then idk what to tell you bro. This lifestyle choice and mindset is toxic imo. Not a good way to live.

  15. Otherwise-Roll-2872 Avatar
    1. The gold digger is real…you need to be aware of signs and avoid them as early as possible.

    Plenty of women will be happy with your financial situation or simply not care. Find the best fit like with any other category.

    1. In my experience women won’t come out and say they just arent into you and find other reasons. There could be another dude in your exact situation on paper but something else about them might attract that specific girl. Don’t take it personally but continue to grow in all aspects of your life rather than focus purely on money making

    2. Don’t take dating so seriously in the early stages. You’re going to screw yourself by treating every woman like a potential wife right away. Even though youre looking for a long term monogamous setup, you gotta be intelligent, and ironically youre most intelligent when you have a bit of a realistic, distanced approach at first. When you let the individual reveal themselves.

  16. Homely_Bonfire Avatar

    I’d say start with the most obvious:

    • Is this statement about stability objectively true?
    • Even if its not “perfect, bulletproof” stability – is it stable enough in your opinion? (this includes your projection of your likely increasing income in the near future)
    • Are you willing to make extra efforts to cater to possible future partners needs to be with an even more financially stable man than you are now?

    If the answer to the first and third question is “No”, while the answer to the second question is “Yes” – what you discovered is…. incompatibility with this woman. She has a different perception from yours, which is fine. It simply means that you do not see eye-to-eye on that matter and you wo are better off finding someone different to mingle with.

  17. wellthisisawkward86 Avatar

    This may be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t want to demonize the ex here. Maybe she was materialistic, maybe not. It is tough dating someone who isn’t in your salary range. It doesn’t necessarily mean it’s all that matters. However, if one person has disposable income and wants to travel, it can be a source of contention if the other person cannot do those things.

    Maybe you two weren’t compatible and you need someone who shares your values.

  18. chefboiortiz Avatar

    You got a lot of guys telling you what you want to hear and that she’s bad for leaving you. She makes good money herself and wanted a partner that was in the same position so they could enjoy life together before I’m guessing having kids. Are you dating to marry? Can you support the household if so? What if you meet a nice woman that is VERY low maintenance and can deal with torn earnings but you don’t like some of her flaws or you think she’s lacking certain things you like in women? Don’t listen to these dudes calling your ex a gold digger.

  19. CreoleCoullion Avatar

    I think you need to have perspective here.

    You’re currently making less than the people at the Taco Bell in my small town in a suburb south of Dallas. Gotta be sort of hard to have a real social life on an income like that, especially in your late 20s. Being a business owner in the early stages of owning a business usually means that you are committing more hours than the average person to make less money.

    With time, if you’re successful, then that will change and you’ll reap those benefits financially. Right now, though, your ex is making double what you are with a simple 9 to 5 and she probably wants to reap the benefits of that by spending some money on trips and things and you’re not really set up to be able to be an equal partner there. There’s no blame to be had here, it’s just that she’s at a different state in her life than you are in yours. If you’re successful, then you’ll flip that script one day and you’ll make more sitting in a few meetings a day than she will by working a full time job.

    I can’t imagine too many women who WOULDN’T be having that perspective right now. As you said, you’re 27, but most women are likely gonna want to put a down payment on a house by their early 30s if they’re at all interested in kids. They’re on a biological clock. You aren’t. They top out in dating value between 25 and 32. And The whole “I want someone who loves me for me” is just you making excuses to avoid your responsibility for your own situation. Nobody except your parents or your dog will ever love you for you.

    Everyone else has strings attached.

    Put in the work and get your money up. You’ll have fewer distractions if you give dating a rest for a while. The women will still be there, I promise.

  20. horsestud6969 Avatar

    A woman who loves you for who you are, regardless of current economic position, is not going to be putting this constant pressure to measure up to her standards. Someone who is acting like you are below them is never going to change no matter how much you earn. Even if you double or triple your income, there will always be another man earning significantly more. If she want to live “the lifestyle”, then she is going to go for someone of significant material wealth, think trust fund kid or high earner in finance. This isn’t a person who is going to support you in your goals and dreams, or something who is going to offer any support is you falter. Probably a poor person to be with in the long term and have children with.

    She is always going to be looking for the better deal. Not every woman out there is like this, I found a woman who loved me unconditional and through her support I turned my life around to become the man that she wanted.

    This is like women to date Leonardo DiCaprio, only to be discarded when they turn 25, they’ll enjoy the ride, until they’re kicked off, and then they’ll look back with some regrets about the true loving and caring people they could have had a real partnership with.

    Some people just want to live in the fast lane. There is a chance that your business takes off someday, and your earnings will far surpass hers, but would your really want to share that life with someone who was looking down on you during the come up?

  21. Rochimaru Avatar

    Lots of delusional comments on this thread. It reads almost like r/AskWomen when they’re coddling OP’s feelings.

    Look, you have the right to be satisfied with how much you’re making but the blunt truth is that $38K at 27 is pretty low. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, it’s just an objective truth. And a woman who is 27 is probably thinking about marriage, a family, kids or at the very least a future with you. Most of that isn’t feasible with $38K.

    My advice would be to focus on your growing your business. Because if you try dating right now, you’re going to run into a lot of women with the exact same perspective as your girlfriend, not because they’re bad people but because women at that age are (usually) looking toward the future and settling down. Their biological clock means they (well the smart ones) have to think of these things much earlier than we do.

    TLDR: Focus on your business, dating can wait & women aren’t bad people for wanting a man to make more than minimum wage.

  22. oyechote Avatar

    27 yo with your own business and potential to keep growing further is not unstable. Good things take time. You will be fine in longer run.

    You two have different priorities and that’s fine too. Hope you find someone who gets your hustle. Good luck bro

  23. Thevanillafalcon Avatar

    I mean for me personally I think leaving someone cos they don’t earn enough money is absolutely insane. You either like them or you don’t.

    I’m getting married this year and I was broke as shit when I met my wife, I don’t think money came up once, over the 10 years we’ve been together, there have been times when I’ve earned way more than her and vice versa.

    I always say as long as we have each other, I’d rather live in a hovel with her than in a mansion with anyone else. I do understand that money is important I just think when you finally meet that person, it won’t matter.

    Like all that external stuff just becomes what you have to deal with together not obstacles to being together, it’s not your ex is a bad person, I just think ultimately it wasn’t meant to be.

    Maybe I’m a romantic, but I just feel when you actually find your other half, all that shit just stops being important.

  24. Affectionate_Sky2982 Avatar

    The key statement you made was that you felt a strong lack of encouragement. You are clearly confident about the direction of your goals and working towards them. No matter the endeavor, and because life brings ups and downs along the way, a life partner who truly loves and cares about you as a person will be your unwavering ally and encourage your growth and development, as you would hers. I wonder if due to this past experience with your most recent partner you might be able to ascertain a woman’s requirement for money and stability early so you can move on and not waste time with people focusing on that instead the human being before them.

  25. CreatineAddiction Avatar

    This wasn’t a you problem this was a her problem. She just used that as an excuse/reason.

  26. BigGaggy222 Avatar

    Just date a younger, hotter lower income woman who is also staring off and building up, she won’t judge you, and you can struggle together and grow stronger on the same journey. Plus she will be younger and hotter.

    Older women hate this one simple trick!

  27. Tokogogoloshe Avatar

    Hey dude. The other girl just wasn’t your forever person. Don’t stress it. The right person will come along.

  28. GlitteringQuarter542 Avatar

    I’d say, don’t let women distract you from achieving your goals and don’t alighn your goals for any woman. Keep focusing on the business and if you do good, it won’t be a problem.

  29. PelleKavaj Avatar

    Don’t base how you value yourself on what other people think. Focus on yourself and what YOU want. Good things will come.

  30. Major-Assumption539 Avatar

    Okay, just going to put this out there, even though it’s kind of a depressing fact, but hopefully it helps steer you in the right direction going forward: a woman earning more money than her partner is a strong statistical indicator that she’ll leave him. For better or worse women have been selected through evolution to choose a mate that has more resources than them. If your wife/girlfriend makes more than you, just remember she’s biologically programmed to look for an upgrade.

  31. PhiladelphiaManeto Avatar

    Focus on the business and yourself, then when she comes back in two years and you are successful, have a good laugh.

  32. SprinklesMore8471 Avatar

    I was in your position, financially and with the same stresses. So I get it, it’s a lot.

    But if they weren’t ready to help support you, they weren’t the ones for you. It’s not like you’re some loser. You’ve got your degree, you’ve started a new business, and it sounds like you’re financially competent. New businesses take a lot of time to even get off the ground.

    My girlfriend didn’t care when I was making 35k at 30 years old. She cared that I was motivated, had a plan, and treated her well. Now, she gets to reap the benefits as I’m making 120% more. Find you a woman like that.

  33. Chrol18 Avatar

    date girls who don’t care much about your money other than you having a job at least, they are out there. If another starts this you are not stable enough, or you should earn more in x timeframe shit, you know you should dump them

  34. yepsayorte Avatar

    You didn’t have enough resources for her to feed on? Do you really want a person who wants to use you as slave labor to support their dream of a parasitic lifestyle?

  35. SleeplessShinigami Avatar

    She just wasn’t the right person for you man. You’re living life on your terms with your own business, even if it’s not a top tier salary.

    You’re thinking correctly about finding someone that wants to be with you for you, not how much you make.

  36. TryToHelpPeople Avatar

    Relationships fail because they should. She brought more problems to the relationship than solutions.

    Just because you found the wrong relationship doesn’t mean you are the wrong person.

    If you want to date somebody who loves you for who you are, try dating guys. 😉

  37. comicsnerd Avatar

    You 2 were just not meant for each other. She values financial certainty above the freedom that you are looking for. It does not mean either is wrong, it is just that oil and water do not mix well.

    There are plenty women that are also more risk taking and accept times of financial uncertainty.For example artists, freelancers, etc. Just go out there.

  38. Pro-IDGAF Avatar

    consider yourself lucky that she showed her true colors now. feel bad for her next victim

  39. RockAtlasCanus Avatar

    Sounds like you and her just want different things man. That’s OK. Starting a business is hard. It involves a ton of work, some very lean income years, and a ton of uncertainty. If I was single I wouldn’t date an entrepreneur either because it just doesn’t provide the kind of predictability and stability I’m looking for in my life. But there are tons of people out there that don’t care as much about that. You just have to keep shooting your shot and find a lady that is down for that ride

  40. FHTFBA Avatar

    Women don’t want to build with a man anymore, they want to move in. The only thing you can do is scale up your business and make more money.

  41. binary-boy Avatar

    Good luck out there, I’ve had a good amount of women start digging into the money topic way too early lately. Just as much as they think they’re weeding out bad partners, all their doing is weeding themselves out.

  42. bpod1113 Avatar

    My (now 32m) personal story

    I was dating my first serious gf for 2 years between ages 25-27. She grew up in a wealthy New Jersey family, I in a not so different family on Long Island but not as wealthy, but still upper class to most. I was making 72k and so was she. She kept lamenting about how we were making the same and that she wanted to be a stay at home mom like her mom was etc etc. you can imagine how this ended. I was devastated because I thought I was going to marry her and SHE was the one who brought up marriage to me first

    Fast forward 5 years, I’m now making 120k and I’m engaged to a girl who’s making the same however she’s the type that wants to earn her own money and doesn’t care if I’m not making more than her

    Moral of the story, work on yourself, be true to you, and there’s always someone out there that will fit your lifestyle and support you

  43. eno4evva Avatar

    You don’t have to do anything extra. Let them weed themselves out just like she did

  44. Able-Lettuce-1465 Avatar

    never date while you are starting your company.

    people who make more than you at 9-5s will feel like they are ahead

    girls who *do* believe in you will feel like they are “grandfathered in” once you make money

    make the money then date in the proper bracket

  45. BigBadBootyDaddy10 Avatar

    Technically, you can’t be too upset. If you want to settle down and start a family, $38K will not do. You’re going to need more than double that amount to live OK as a household.

    I known guys who have their own business but are putting just the bare minimum to survive and they scrape by with $40K while playing video games and smoking weed all day. Yet, they’ll be the first one to tell you “imma entrepreneur”.

    You still have time to grow, but the next 5 years you need to hunker down and keep building your business. Distractions and depression will not be beneficial to your growth.

    This can become a vicious cycle. You date a woman. She breaks up with you. You spiral into depression, and your business suffers. Rinse and repeat. Before you know it, you’re 40, your business is stagnant and you’re making $50K a year.

    Stay focused on the business my friend.

  46. goldbrickbby Avatar

    As a fellow startup owner (and woman), wait until you’re starting to automate more and make a little more than the poverty line (60k for a single adult).

    Decent women want to see you as self sufficient, not necessarily independently wealthy. There are old, engrained prejudices about men staying with their parents (not the other way around). There are newer prejudices around building with men and being replaced with a younger/hotter woman once he peaks. Some of us are still willing to do it if devotion and life goals line up.

    My advice you didn’t ask for: wait a year, really pour into yourself and your business. Automate whatever makes sense so you have some time freedom and the potential to scale. Then start going to those business mixers and meeting people there bc you know they’ll be in the same headspace.

  47. CountOff Avatar

    I wouldn’t take her leaving any harder than the natural human pain of a breakup

    You two are on two diff timelines – she got a college degree that pipelined her into a higher earning career earlier. You’re building a business that takes time to reach a really high earning point. You deserve someone who’s either on a similar timeline or is ready to be patient for the process you’re going through

    Nothing deeper than that to me (has little to do with the idea you’re not stable), even if she’s saying what she’s saying

  48. StreetSea9588 Avatar

    You’re a person. Not a commodity. Date all you want. Just ask enough questions early on to weed out the ones who are materialistic and status obsessed.

  49. Historical-Pen-7484 Avatar

    I pretend to be dead broke when I go on dates, to weed out these folks. I met my wife over coffee in a park and brought a thermos from home. When we got there it turned out she had a thermos as well.

  50. HuhWellThereIsThat Avatar

    Just another perspective: it can really suck to be the breadwinner as a woman because when you pick up the financial slack very few men will pick up the slack at home, so female breadwinners often end up both making the money and keeping the house, and if there are kids it can be even worse. I think women with good careers have the highest divorce rate because of this. You don’t see a tonne of men packing lunches to support their wives as they go off to work, but many women, even working women, do that every day for decades for their husbands.

    If you are just starting your business you would probably expect to carve more than a normal workday out, so a partner who earns more money than you might even be working less than you onsite, and your busy schedule might create new work for her that she didn’t have before meeting you (new chores, more groceries). 50-50 is also not fair sometimes, for example if I buy a dozen doughnuts I know my partner will eat 9 and leave me 3, because he’s a guy and can eat more and faster than I can. That means every time I want 3 of something I have to buy 12, whereas in the past I might have just bought myself 3. He has added significantly to my food budget (eats meat every day, for example) so if he didn’t pick up slack in other ways he would be a net drain on my ability to support myself.

    It can feel unfair as a woman to be saddled with earning the money, keeping the home, and figuring out anything related to kids and reproduction too. It can start to make you wonder what you need the man part of the equation for if you do it all already, especially if he makes new work or costs for you, you know? I think if you are going to contribute less financially it’s important to step up in other ways, the ways women do when we are the lower earning partner. That means keeping the house, preparing meals and packing lunches, doing the household admin, etc.

    A man who demonstrates fastidious household management and a progressive attitude about gender roles in the home is just as attractive as a high earner, especially to a high-earning woman.

  51. Rogue_Sex_Ed Avatar

    Here’s where you lost me:

    > a lot of women have high expectations around money these days

    A lot of people are feeling financial anxiety right now. Don’t go down the slippery slope of generalizing women. From your side of the story it sounds like this particular woman valued financial security more than the other aspects of your relationship, so good thing she’s your ex.

    Don’t over think this. Go date more.

  52. International-Rip-59 Avatar

    Either focus on your business or get a better paying job. I’m going to be honest with you 38k isn’t shit it’s poverty. I make 47k fresh out of college and living with my parents and I’m still barely getting by. You can’t blame her or call her shallow for that.

  53. KYRawDawg Avatar

    Honestly, fuck that woman! That’s ridiculous. Any reasonable person knows that when you start your business for yourself even with a partnership, the first three years are make it or break it. You devote everything to your business to make sure it is successful rather than becoming a failure. Reading your post I understand this is just your side of the situation but after reading it, I hope she can find someone who makes her happy with enough money, money should not be the object of everything, but you did say she’s an engineer and would like to travel. Well that’s awesome that she can just stop what she’s doing say fuck off to her job and want to travel. $80,000 is not exactly a huge amount But maybe it is where the two of you live. I know people that make six figures and still work their ass off and don’t just stop what they’re doing and start traveling.
    Maybe you should stop dating for just a little while, refocus your energy to your job and your business and Then casually date someone without any long-term oriented relationship. Don’t let people use you as a free pass to pay for everything either. Be confident in who you are, don’t let these women walk all over you like that. I hope she finds happiness with being alone. If she has these expectations for every relationship she’s in, I hope she is painfully alone most of her life

  54. T00narmy1 Avatar

    “a lot of women have high expectations around money these days”

    and so do men? And so does everyone? That’s a pretty universal concern for anyone getting involved with anyone else. This issue is not money, it’s you not recognizing early enough when someone is incompatible with you. Stop dating women who are incompatible with you.

    “She was an engineer making $80k and was ready to travel and enjoy life, while I was still putting in the work to grow my business. She had a certain timeline of when she wanted things done”

    Right there. You guys are incompatible. You are growing a career and business, which takes time, and she has disposable income now, wants to move foward now, and wants to settle down and travel and do all the things NOW without waiting. So she’s not right for you, she never was. It’s not that you’re not stable, or don’t have a plan, or don’t have enough money. No, it’s that your life plan wasn’t compatible with hers. She’s ready NOW to be financially stable and you have chosen to grow a business on your own. Those things are not compatible. The minute you felt pressure from her about the timeline, you should have ended things. Your ex was entitled to seek out a person who was more in line with the things she wanted right now, and you are welcome to date someone else who doesn’t feel the need to be settled and secure at 27 years old. She shouldn’t have stayed and tried to push you, and you shouldn’t have stayed and tried to meet her expectations. It was never going to work.

    There are plenty of women NOT making $80k a year who are still building careers and businesses like you are. Find them through networking or apps and date them instead.

  55. ImHereForTheDogPics Avatar

    So I’m a woman, but I think you’re starting to over-generalize an entire gender of people here lol.

    I’m actually similar to your ex, at least in terms of age and salary range. I’m in a stressful job, but it pays well and allows me to dump a ton of money into my retirement accounts, which is my main priority. My husband (fiance still, but husband for clarity lol) makes a bit more than me, but also focuses heavily on retirement accounts. A lot of family & childhood reasons went into the choices we made, including feeling financially unstable as a very young child, so having hefty savings is important to both of us for different reasons. We’re both pretty risk-adverse people, but neither one of us is gold digging or expecting to live off the other’s money. We both have reasons for wanting to make our own money, and we both have reasons for wanting our partner to make their own money.

    But my best friend in the entire world is the opposite. Also 28, around your current salary, very willing to take risks in life (financially & otherwise). Her partner is also low income and equally willing to take massive risks I would never consider lol. They’re one of the happiest & healthiest couples I know.

    And one last example – one of my cousins was incredibly driven in nursing, but never cared about the money. She ended up becoming a stay at home mom while her husband made around $50k. She was happy and comfortable with their choices, until he cheated and kicked her & the kids out. She now has a degree that hasn’t been used in years, out of date certificates, no childcare for 2 kids under 3 years old, no housing, and is in a world of chaos at the moment. She trusted her husband financially, and it backfired in the worst way.

    So really, my point is, different people exist allllll across the spectrum. Some women are risk adverse, some aren’t. Some women are driven by both their career and their income, some women are only driven by one or the other, some women are driven by something else. But at the end of the day, you need to be able to support yourself at a level you’re comfortable with, and you need to trust your partner to do the same (while having backup plans). I don’t think it’s fair to say your ex “traumatized” you for having different expectations… you guys just had different expectations, and that’s fine. Honestly, it would make me really anxious to know my partner had $25k in retirement accounts, but that’s just me! The next woman you meet is guaranteed to be different, and so will the one after that, and the one after that, etc. Women are not a monolith, and there’s definitely someone out there who is going to be over the moon at a dude starting his own marketing company. She’s just likely not a female engineer lol – we’re crazy in our own ways.

  56. 1ntrepidsalamander Avatar

    (44yo F, divorced)

    First up, absolutely you can date and I hope you find someone who appreciates your drive and wants to grow with you.

    But also, you earned $38k and then paid maybe 40% in taxes? That’s rough. That’s below the poverty line. Wanting to be above the poverty line is a normal expectation, not a high one. Is there a reasonable expectation that you’ll rise above the poverty line soon?

    It’s ok to want different things in different times in your life.

    A few things:
    I’ve dated and married people who believe they are on an upward trajectory, but don’t actually have their sh&t together well enough to believe that they’ll succeed. An ex had an elaborate business “plan” but had never run a budget in his own life and was unable to prevent his house from being short saled, for example. Another was very hardworking and ambitious, but chaotic and randomly destroyed relationships.

    Hard working and driven are only parts of it and are not enough.

    You moved back in with your parents. While that is definitely morally neutral, and I’m glad you have a good enough relationship with your parents to be able to have that safety net, it’s gonna make dating many people harder.

    Good luck to you.

  57. worstnameever2 Avatar

    Some women will care about much money you’re making. Some won’t care as much. I would bet that you being in the beginning of a business venture and living with your parents is going to drastically reduce your dating pool.

    I’d suggest dedicating yourself to getting your business to a point where you and your partner are making better money before you start looking for a serious relationship. Relationships take time, effort, and energy. If you distract yourself with a relationship, your business will suffer.

  58. Jealous_Screen_1588 Avatar

    She had 80 k but did she have her own property and savings or she was blowing trough the money ect. Tbf I don’t think she left cause of stability she left cause she felt like it and gave reason for sake of closure. You shouldn’t be to hung up on it go meet people and enjoy the interactions with no agenda is best way to meet sombody. By not expecting I mean go without expectation of relationship or anything just go interact in right places and work on yourself as you do now. I wouldt try understand what your ex ment or rly ment or just said as excuse it’s waste of time you clearly didt have conection if that’s all she had to say.

  59. Morlock43 Avatar

    Stability is not having money to burn.

    Stability is having money and security when you can no longer work and need to just chill out the evening of your life.

    Bear that in mind.

    That someone was willing to blow up a relationship over disposable income (how it read to me) says volumes on that person. Count your lucky stars and move on. Find someone who wants to form a bond with you that will last and isn’t predicated on whether you can summer in ipizza or where ever.

    Also, if anyone ever unironically says they are after a HVM – run