Since Trump has brought back the Federal Death Penalty AND pardoned a corporation – would you turn around and use the death penalty on a corporation?

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My logic is that if a corporation can be pardoned and the federal government is bringing back the death penalty – then if, for example, Tesla had a fatal issue with their vehicles that they knew about, covered up, allowed their CEO Elon Musk to go full DOGE and invade the federal agency that was investigating the issue and we can prove people have died tragic burning deaths because of it.

Why shouldn’t we put the entire board and C-suite to trial under penalty of death? Even if they didn’t personally know, it’s their job to know and they knowingly allowed their CEO to go and dismantle the regulatory oversight of their industry – creating a coverup.

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    My logic is that if a corporation can be pardoned and the federal government is bringing back the death penalty – then if, for example, Tesla had a fatal issue with their vehicles that they knew about, covered up, allowed their CEO Elon Musk to go full DOGE and invade the federal agency that was investigating the issue and we can prove people have died tragic burning deaths because of it.

    Why shouldn’t we put the entire board and C-suite to trial under penalty of death? Even if they didn’t personally know, it’s their job to know and they knowingly allowed their CEO to go and dismantle the regulatory oversight of their industry – creating a coverup.

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  2. Delanorix Avatar

    Imagine a present day Teddy Roosevelt with this power.

    I really hope we get another trust buster.

  3. othelloinc Avatar

    >…would you…use the death penalty on a corporation?

    I know people like to bring this up as some sort of ‘ironic point’, but I’m not sure what it would mean, practically.

    Corporations do die. One reason they die is because they do something so awful that they can no longer generate enough revenue to cover their liabilities. Then, the corporation dies and its assets are sold off to other companies. They call it bankruptcy.

    What would be meaningfully different about giving a corporation the death penalty?

  4. CTR555 Avatar

    No.

    If you’d suggested the possible revocation of a corporate charter in response to illegality then sure, that’s something that can be talked about, but I would not support seeking the death penalty for the board and key executives.

  5. Rich_Charity_3160 Avatar

    You’re simply proposing an expansion of capital offenses for humans.

  6. Cool_Cartographer_39 Avatar

    For Pfizer? Sure. But I believe they were granted immunity from prosecution. Interesting that. At least the Netherlands is breaking ground on civil litigation with Bill Gates

  7. Butuguru Avatar

    Fuck no. I’m against death penalty for all people. If you want to do one for a company then it should be for the company (via levying a $10 trillion fine). Killing people for a crime is immoral.

  8. highriskpomegranate Avatar

    there was a guy on here who said he only supported the death penalty for white collar criminals and situations like this. was that you? if not I hope he sees this.

    I don’t generally support the death penalty, but for C-Suite execs? sure, fuck it. seems like the only way to prevent them from getting a golden parachute tbh.

  9. Ewi_Ewi Avatar

    No, I’d turn around and resume the moratorium on the death penalty.

    My view of “the death penalty is wrong” doesn’t change based on whether I like the person it might be used on.

  10. Kerplonk Avatar

    So I certainly think the people responsible for the opioid epidemic are far more deserving of the death penalty than almost anyone we’ve actually executed in my lifetime. I wouldn’t go so far to say I am in favor of that, but I’d be less against it than I am against how it’s actually used.

  11. DannyBones00 Avatar

    Yes. I want a modern FDR who will put the fear of god back in corporations.

  12. WildBohemian Avatar

    Yes. In my opinion FoxNews has earned the corporate death penalty, and so has Perdue Pharma. The tax and liability benefits of corporate status should come with strings attached, IE when they egregiously fail to uphold the public good and/or harm the public, they get their charter revoked and their corporation is dissolved.

  13. TakingLslikepills Avatar

    Luigi Mangione is not likely to be a one-off.

    We have a country where it’s easier to get a gun than to get a prior authorization. That’s the reality.

    A big reason why the Trump DOJ is looking to making an example out of him is because he’s the ultimate reminder that if the wealthiest don’t give people real options for the life they want, people will take things into their hands.

    That’s why Luigi is seen as much more dangerous than folks who kill elementary school kids and innocent bystanders at Walmart by the dozen.

  14. Vegetable-Two-4644 Avatar

    Long term imprisonment and garnishing their wealth? Sure. Death?

    Nah, I don’t like the death penalty in general. Youd have to show they out out a product purposefully designed to kill people for me to side with that.

  15. Street-Media4225 Avatar

    My opposition to the death penalty comes from not trusting the government to not execute innocent people. With something like this I’m not sure how likely it’d be for someone on a corporate board to be genuinely innocent.

  16. dbgameart Avatar

    This is the kind of thing that sounds crazy until you consider it.

  17. amwes549 Avatar

    Issue is what happens if the company leadership flees?

  18. tonydiethelm Avatar

    …. Come on man… Just stop.