genuine question because i read that they’re told what to argue about and what to say to certain comments, i ask this because ive noticed they all say the same things and its very script like & they ALWAYS flock to comment sections on the most basic videos just to bash a random woman who did nothing. i wonder if they have a group chat or something that they send these posts in just to get all the other ones to flock to a comment section to argue, i would rather not speak to them about this which is why i posted here.. im genuinely curious and im sorry if this makes no sense, my grammar isnt the best😂 so anyone who has done research on them could you please answer? thanks ladies❤️
dangg the downvotes already coming in.. dont be mad just answer, its a question not a personal attack🤗
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Not a lady sorry but ya, they definitely have groups/discords/etc. This is why places like Bluesky have a strong “block, don’t argue” policy. Their goal is to make you upset and waste your time
They always say the same thing because they’re actually pretty bad at arguing, in the traditional sense. They have no “theory of mind” for anyone else’s position, just their own distorted views that they say over and over
They aren’t trained to, they’re just chronically online and their algorithms feed them nothing but Redpill rage bait so they just regurgitate all the same tired arguments. It’s boring how unoriginal they all are really.
Spend enough time in an online echo chamber, which incels invariably do, and it’s no surprise when they all end up reading from the same script. It’s not a conscious choice, but when you spend all day online with the same like-minded people… yeah.
As for why they think angry comments on women’s videos is the best use of their time… loyalty to their in-group above all else. It’s very pathetic.
I wouldn’t be surprised these angry dog piles are really from one person creating multiple fake profiles to make it look like 20 against 1.
As cynical as I am, I have a hard time believing that so many people are perfectly synchronized in their weird brand of stupidity.
On Facebook recently I saw like 7-8 men ganging up on one woman because she joked about finding a stranger’s photo attractive. All of them were ranting that they were DMing her husband. It was truly bizarre
There’s a really nasty feedback loop of: talk to outsider (with negative assumptions) -> create a bad interaction -> reinforce negative assumptions -> return to ‘safe’ echo chamber -> repeat
Think of them as reaction bots, with just as much (little) meaning to any conversation.
It’s the only interaction they get with women, so they want to drag it out as long as possible.
It’s the nature of online forums (including reddit) and social media, unfortunately. Based on the title of a reddit post, you can often predict what the top-upvoted comment will be. Certain statements and opinions are upvoted so often, it creates a feedback loop: commenters who want their comment to get upvoted (or viral) will say the thing that is most commonly upvoted.
“Being rude to a waiter is a major red flag” is one of my favorite examples of this. In real life, I’ve never seen a friend or date or partner or family member be rude to a server, but on reddit you’d think it’s the most common thing to look for to figure out if your date is a toxic person. It’s just something you say now to get upvoted.
Just don’t argue with them, they can’t argue if they don’t have anyone to argue with. You probably aren’t going to change an incel’s mind, and absolutely not in a comment section. They get their talking points from each other and let their hate fester in a pile of shit, no need to jump into the pile of shit with them just to try to bring one out, let them rot.
I’d imagine it’s the reverse of the “give me some responses” posts here
One of the markers for narcissism is the need for attention, good or bad no matter how irrational that sounds. Of course everyone wants attention but when you want it to the point of obsession, even negative attention will serve.
I know “narcissist” gets tossed around a lot and that’s not what I’m implying – that all incels are narcissists. That’s highly unlikely. Everyone has narcissistic qualities and when our lives aren’t functioning healthily, our narcissistic qualities come to the forefront of our personality.
Incels are people unhappy with their lives. So they are in a state where any attention, even negative, is better than none. As long as you keep engaged in the conflict, they’re getting what they want. Even if the argument is as stupid as the color of the sky – it’s socialization.
They’re definitely conditioned to take their frustration out on women online. It’s pathetic and unhealthy, and trying to grief women seems to be their only source of relief. It’s not so different from a cult.
Toxic masculinity teaches men to dominate women. Those who have been raised in front of screens are being used by those in charge of the algorithms to beat down women so women don’t rise up against the powerful tech oligarchs who are currently trying to run the world into the ground.
They are told women want it. They are too glib to realize they represent everything women detest in men.
To be fair traditional masculinity used to be decentralized but with the rise of social media gurus it’s becoming centralized. Combine that with modern or progressive masculinity being seen as a western phenomenon the rest of the worlds male population are starting to see it as a reason for not supporting women’s rights, education and career paths.
One of the big things far right leaders tried to push in gamergate a decade back was the idea that they could use logic and reason to convince anyone to see their point of view and calling them emotional the second they realize what a waste of time it is to give a single moment to a single member of the far-right.
Just happened to me yesterday. I don’t comment much and then when I do, someone is always condescending to me for no reason. Then when I give the same energy I’m treated like the bad guy for even responding.
An awful lot of the time they just cut and paste what someone else said without even reading what they are “reacting” to.
It’s the only attention they get from women, so they thrive on it
If they were trained they would probably sound smarter.
I think what it mostly is that they have nothing else to do because their lives are so empty, and they’ll never figure out that the reason they don’t have any friends and can’t get along with people is BECAUSE their lives are so empty.
I have a life I like. I would be happy to add the right man to it, but that’s going to be a man with things going on in his life, things he’s doing. He’s got a life he likes and he wants to add someone to it. Someone who spends eight hours a day online clearly doesn’t have anything else going on in his life. He doesn’t want someone to add to his life, he wants someone to give him a life, and that’s not the job of your romantic partner. That’s your job. Your romantic partner’s job is to add to your life, spice it up a little (or a lot, I guess, depending on how kinky everybody is 😘), but it’s not their job to give you a life.
Their favorite hobby.
They probably have a bootcamp somewhere so they can subscribe like 200 bucks a session to learn to hate women or smt idk, and it probably has “alpha male” in the title.
these men are insane.
No, brain issues, anger and faulty logic are just simple and predictable
I think it’s just a result of the echo chambers they tend to hang out at online, and the content they tend to be drawn to. That’s my guess anyways.
They are just so desperate for female attention and they know they can’t get it in a positive way so they troll.
Even if it’s negative, it’s attention from women they wouldn’t get otherwise.
I suspect a lot of them use AI text generators trained on their bullshit by now.
I had an argument with a guy who came on an askwomen sub to argue that a 29 yo man having sex with a 16 yo girl was fine, because men and women are biologically different yadda yadda. He had just been banned from the sub for being more and more sexist, and came into my chat to convince me with pseudo-science.
I have heard all the arguments of such guys. And here they were again, the same old tricks.
At some point he guy talked about women preferring tall men or whatever. He sent me the link to a paper who talked about the neural development of lab rats in which there was NO MENTION of anything related to either humans or sexual selection.
This is where I understood that the guy was completely clueless but was copy-pasting my answers into chatGPT to see what to tell me next.
This is only the step in what they were already doing when they relied on each other to develop their blanked statements and go-to cheap rhetoric tricks. The same for any alt-right online troll, look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA
They are- to borrow their vernacular: Betas.
they will follow the instructions of any man they think is attractive (even if women insist he is not) or who says he has had sex. Of course they all say the same thing. That’s what followers do. They follow.
They are typical bullies trying to make people feel bad, because they feel bad.
No need to over complicate it.
If it wasn’t women it would be some other target demographic they feel they can get away with taunting.
It gives them life.
They’re all just parroting the same manfluencers who all repeat the same shit as each other.