Thermocouples also don’t have moving parts. If you make a loop with two different metals (both making a “c” shape) and apply a temperature difference so that the two junctions are different temperatures, elections will flow to even out the temperature. You can apply a temperature difference to convert head into electricity or apply a voltage difference to turn electricity into heat. So you can use this for electricity generation or reverse it to make a heater or refrigerator. It’s the tech that nuclear power sources use on space craft.
I don’t think it’s actually been built, but I’ve read one idea to produce electricity from fusion is to pass the plasma over electromagnets to slow it down. It’s like using magnets to accelerated plasma, but the opposite.
A fuel cell is an electrochemical cell that converts the chemical energy of a fuel (often hydrogen) and an oxidizing agent (often oxygen) into electricity through a pair of redox reactions.
That might be true if you define energy as electricity. But in Iceland they generate hot water for home heating using geothermal heat, and pipe that hot water directly from the generating station to people’s houses. No spinning involved.
Don’t we have wave generators? I know I’ve seen videos about them, but don’t know if they’ve ever been set up on a large scale. Anyway, they’re an up ans down motion, not spinning!
In some large solar farms they don’t use photovoltaic panels, they use mirrors directed at a tower to heat up salt. They generate steam from that heat to spin a turbine and generate power. So, not even all solar power is spin-less.
There are three very large thermal-solar plants on the border of California on your way to Las Vegas that use banks of mirrors focus heat on a central tower. The top of the tower glows white-hot and the light can be seen for miles.
I will try to be the most pedantic of them all. /s
Fossil fuels are “tecnically” solar energy trappes by live forms milions years ago and turned int oil/coal by time, pressure and lack of oxigen.
So when you burn fossil fuels you are just using ancient solar power.
Wind is created in the atmosfere becouse different exposure from sun and differencies in thermal capacieties of what on the surface of Heart.
So wind power is another form of solar power extraction and use spinning blades.
Fission requires elements made in supernovae explosions, they are made from ancient sun, so tecnically even fission power is sun power.
You seem to be forgetting the original mass energy generation —
agriculture and farm animals.
Agriculture generates huge amounts of solid fuel for both humans and animals. And farm animals transform that fuel into motion. Life has always been about energy. And not in a hippy “energy is all around us” way, but like energy gradient is what drives life.
Also, there’s lesser known ways to generate electricity, including: RTG, radiocouple, fuel cell and piezoelectric generators.
I suggest editing this to “inverter based resources”, including BESS.
If we’re being really persnickety, the cooling fans inside inverters are absolutely essential to IBR production.
Also funny, BESS systems participate in “Ancillary Services” in CAISO and ERCOT. This means IBRs technically provide “spin” services to the grid, in addition to non-spin, FFR, PFR, Reg Up/Down and AVR.
Sailing ships I think would count as mass energy users. Tons of mass were moved large distances without heat or combustion energy. But they won’t light a light bulb.
Piezoelectricity is a (possible) exception. It’s not typically a “mass” generation scheme, but I’ve seen some really impractical proposals for it (like roadways)
My disappointment when I found out nuclear energy was just boiling water to spin a turbine, instead of harvesting energy directly from glowy green rock.
That’s actually an astute observation. I mean they may have to adjust their angle with a motor as the sun moves, but that is not the method of generation.
Surprisingly good at power gen, even in the winter. Just expensive. And consumes a lot of space.
We don’t use it very much for utility-scale power generation (apparently there have been some demonstration projects) but magnetohydrodynamic generators just use flowing plasma, magnets, and electrodes without any spinning part. One way of looking at it is (very roughly) is it’s like a linear stator, like if you took just one of the spinny parts from a generator and used just that.
That’s actually such a cool fact when you think about it — everything else is just fancy ways to turn a turbine. Nuclear? Boils water to spin a turbine. Wind? Spins a turbine. Hydro? Yep, turbine again. But solar? Just straight-up light into electrons. Feels like cheating in the best possible way
Yea they generally call it solid state in that case, basically no moving parts. There’s other ideas out there but they’re considered much less than worthwhile. Like a piezoelectric wind wall, wind hits the piezoelectric crystal sheet and it generates electricity, but not enough to be seen as not pathetic.
There’s a kind of solar power plant that is a bunch of mirrors directing light to a tower. The tower points the light down its shaft into a pool of water, heating the water. The steam rises and spins some wheels.
There’s also radioisotope thermo electric generators. And no they aren’t solar panels that just use infrared. They use the temperature gradient itself to generate current.
The relationship between electricity and magnetism involves movement. A spinning magnetic field induces an electric field and a spinning electric field induces a magnetic field. We already have magnets so if we can find a way to get them moving we can create electricity. That’s why spinning magnets are fundamental to most electricity generation, it’s a fundamental property of electromagnetism.
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Thermonuclear reactions wouldn’t happen without… the SPIN of particles.
Does the earth spinning not count?
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Not my field at all so my thinking may be way off but maybe thermal?
Thermocouples also don’t have moving parts. If you make a loop with two different metals (both making a “c” shape) and apply a temperature difference so that the two junctions are different temperatures, elections will flow to even out the temperature. You can apply a temperature difference to convert head into electricity or apply a voltage difference to turn electricity into heat. So you can use this for electricity generation or reverse it to make a heater or refrigerator. It’s the tech that nuclear power sources use on space craft.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_generator
Also ignore the “what about election spin” comments. It’s clear what you meant and they are just being contrarians.
Tide/wave power from bouys might use a central magnet moving vertically in a coil but I’m no expert.
I don’t think it’s actually been built, but I’ve read one idea to produce electricity from fusion is to pass the plasma over electromagnets to slow it down. It’s like using magnets to accelerated plasma, but the opposite.
Sometimes it does.
Might be true for photovoltaic, clearly false for concentrated solar power.
There are tidal power generators that go up and down with waves. No spinny
A fuel cell is an electrochemical cell that converts the chemical energy of a fuel (often hydrogen) and an oxidizing agent (often oxygen) into electricity through a pair of redox reactions.
I saw the title and immediately thought the comments section is sure to devolve into extreme pedantry… and well, it didn’t disappoint!
If we’re going really hard into pedantry, energy generation doesn’t happen at all, because energy can be neither created nor destroyed.
OK, you obviously meant electricity generation. And… I think you’re right. Fuel cells don’t involve spinning things, but don’t qualify as “mass”.
That might be true if you define energy as electricity. But in Iceland they generate hot water for home heating using geothermal heat, and pipe that hot water directly from the generating station to people’s houses. No spinning involved.
There are solar power plants that generate heat by concentrating the sun into one spot using hundreds of mirrors. Guess what they do with that heat….
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_tower
Don’t we have wave generators? I know I’ve seen videos about them, but don’t know if they’ve ever been set up on a large scale. Anyway, they’re an up ans down motion, not spinning!
The whole solar system is spinning, checkmate.
In some large solar farms they don’t use photovoltaic panels, they use mirrors directed at a tower to heat up salt. They generate steam from that heat to spin a turbine and generate power. So, not even all solar power is spin-less.
Large-scale solar uses turbines as well.
There are three very large thermal-solar plants on the border of California on your way to Las Vegas that use banks of mirrors focus heat on a central tower. The top of the tower glows white-hot and the light can be seen for miles.
What do you think is inside the solar panels? Photovoltaic cells? No its wheels lots and lots of tiny wheels.
We qre spinning around the sun
The panels spin and rotate following the sun…..
CHeck out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoacoustics
I will try to be the most pedantic of them all. /s
Fossil fuels are “tecnically” solar energy trappes by live forms milions years ago and turned int oil/coal by time, pressure and lack of oxigen.
So when you burn fossil fuels you are just using ancient solar power.
Wind is created in the atmosfere becouse different exposure from sun and differencies in thermal capacieties of what on the surface of Heart.
So wind power is another form of solar power extraction and use spinning blades.
Fission requires elements made in supernovae explosions, they are made from ancient sun, so tecnically even fission power is sun power.
You seem to be forgetting the original mass energy generation —
agriculture and farm animals.
Agriculture generates huge amounts of solid fuel for both humans and animals. And farm animals transform that fuel into motion. Life has always been about energy. And not in a hippy “energy is all around us” way, but like energy gradient is what drives life.
Also, there’s lesser known ways to generate electricity, including: RTG, radiocouple, fuel cell and piezoelectric generators.
I suggest editing this to “inverter based resources”, including BESS.
If we’re being really persnickety, the cooling fans inside inverters are absolutely essential to IBR production.
Also funny, BESS systems participate in “Ancillary Services” in CAISO and ERCOT. This means IBRs technically provide “spin” services to the grid, in addition to non-spin, FFR, PFR, Reg Up/Down and AVR.
The wind farms with the vertical pole that just vibrates/bounces around.
Everything’s a Jojo reference… Everything’s a fucking Jojo reference
That’s why it’s so hard to understand.
Everything has its downsides.
Nuclear is a better option than coal or gas at least
Geothermal can be used for direct heat transfer in some applications.
It spins on the planet
Sailing ships I think would count as mass energy users. Tons of mass were moved large distances without heat or combustion energy. But they won’t light a light bulb.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
Piezoelectricity is a (possible) exception. It’s not typically a “mass” generation scheme, but I’ve seen some really impractical proposals for it (like roadways)
if the sun stopped spinning, it would die and so would we.
so… technically… solar power involves rotation of mass…
Never thought of this before but you’re so right. It’s hilarious how much human innovation devolves to “spiny thing”
Piezoelectric cells in accelerators generate charge from compression.
Sunlight is determined by the rotation of the planet.
The sun spins. The galaxy spins. Your access to the sun is controlled by the earth spin
We’re the spinning thing
My disappointment when I found out nuclear energy was just boiling water to spin a turbine, instead of harvesting energy directly from glowy green rock.
That’s actually an astute observation. I mean they may have to adjust their angle with a motor as the sun moves, but that is not the method of generation.
Surprisingly good at power gen, even in the winter. Just expensive. And consumes a lot of space.
I think Fire might qualify
I think Magnetic might qualify
Aside from the planet and the sun
Anything involving electrons is spinning something
Have you not heard of the Gooble Box?
Technically the sun is spinning
An instructor once told me everything of use that is mechanical includes something that either 1. Spins or 2. Seals.
Most of the time*, solar concentration and sterling engines both have spinning.
Straight up not even true
Crazy to think that most kinds of powerplants are still basically steam engines.
Eh, you can do lateral motion with a sterling engine.
Chemical energy (like those in batteries) requires no spinning
most power sources are just fancy ways to boil water
We don’t use it very much for utility-scale power generation (apparently there have been some demonstration projects) but magnetohydrodynamic generators just use flowing plasma, magnets, and electrodes without any spinning part. One way of looking at it is (very roughly) is it’s like a linear stator, like if you took just one of the spinny parts from a generator and used just that.
You lose, the earth spins.
Certain types of tidal use lateral motion from buoys bobbing up and down, rather than circular motion.
What about an RTG Generator, like on space probes?
That’s actually such a cool fact when you think about it — everything else is just fancy ways to turn a turbine. Nuclear? Boils water to spin a turbine. Wind? Spins a turbine. Hydro? Yep, turbine again. But solar? Just straight-up light into electrons. Feels like cheating in the best possible way
Well technically the earth spins around the sun
Yea they generally call it solid state in that case, basically no moving parts. There’s other ideas out there but they’re considered much less than worthwhile. Like a piezoelectric wind wall, wind hits the piezoelectric crystal sheet and it generates electricity, but not enough to be seen as not pathetic.
I mean, the earth is spinning. Just saying
Unless it’s a parabolic molten salt turbine 🙂
No, our planet is spinning, so we are technically spinning something big.
Big ball bearing at it again
Sailing ships don’t sprin anything
I mean.. at the most basic level it requires the earth to be spinning…
The earth gotta spin my dude
So earth and sun aint spinnin?
The planets spins on its axis and around the sun.
There’s a kind of solar power plant that is a bunch of mirrors directing light to a tower. The tower points the light down its shaft into a pool of water, heating the water. The steam rises and spins some wheels.
Tbf there are forms of solar power that DO use spinning things. You just need a tank of water and sunlight to boil it, turns into steam.
It’s because it’s a chemical reaction like what goes on inside a battery
Everything else is converting mechanical energy to electrical energy
The only “spin” is that it could ever fill our energy needs.
I mean, the star is spinning to/while make/making the power
Does the sun not spin?
I think there’s ocean tide ones that go up and down
Earth is spinning into and out of the sunlight…
Wrong, Sun spins and the earth spins . Checkmate
Thermoelectric affect
There are some types of solar farms that capture the heat from the sun and not the light….those spin some turbines with the heat generated, just like any other electric plant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrated_solar_power?wprov=sfla1
The only reason that all countries get sunlight is because the Earth spins
Talking about spinning. You guys started digging up all your dead WW2 vets yet for unlimited free energy?
There’s also radioisotope thermo electric generators. And no they aren’t solar panels that just use infrared. They use the temperature gradient itself to generate current.
What do you mean? We spin the sun around Earth
The relationship between electricity and magnetism involves movement. A spinning magnetic field induces an electric field and a spinning electric field induces a magnetic field. We already have magnets so if we can find a way to get them moving we can create electricity. That’s why spinning magnets are fundamental to most electricity generation, it’s a fundamental property of electromagnetism.