Especially because, with fur the animal at least is recycled into fashion that stretches across time.
Whereas an animal’s meat/milk is a few meals and forgotten forever.
It’s kind of moot because neither one are necessary for us, but it’s wild that 70% of people are against fur but over 90% still eat animals themselves. Wildly hypocritical
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Fur is tacky, meat can be delicious.
“I’m not against the insides. People need meat to survive.”
“You are aware that they don’t remove it from the cow surgically, right?”
Idk fam, food is a necessity, a fancy coat isn’t, plus it’s tacky.
I buy a whole cow every year, I take their fur yearly and have it processed. I paid for the whole cow and it’s only respectable to use the entire thing. Not even bones go to waste, my dogs love them.
Interesting take, but you mention milk. Animals do not need to be killed for milk or eggs. Sheep can be sheared for wool. I cannot see an instance where meat can (other than lab grown) be utilized without death.
Or, hear me out.
Thinking that leather belts are terrible because animal suffering is unethical.
But vegan leather sourced from petrochemicals and made into materials that will pollute the earth for the next 4000 years is better.
Is, weird at best.
You are using more of the animal taking its meat than taking its fur. Lots of animals are skinned alive so that poachers can take their fur and leave the skinned animals to die a very painful death.
It’s not the leather from cows that is the issue, as they are already used for their meat. It is the killing of animals for their fur alone that is the issue. You’re saying fashion is as valid as reason to kill animals as sustenance, which is ridiculous. There is no need for fur, there is a need for food. You can argue that we don’t need as much meat or we are killing more than is necessary, but none of that changes killing animals for their fur/fashion being a complete waste.
I think most people don’t like that there are animals that are skinned (often alive) or extremely rare animals are used just for fashion reasons. Eating is kinda essential, but the animals we eat aren’t used for fur.
I think it also depends on like what kind of fur we’re talking about. Hunting tigers and lions and other animals specifically for their pelt is unethical, but like if you’re from a culture that already hunts those animals for their meat and you utilize all of the animal, that’s a wildly different situation.
Quite hypocritical, yes.
I struggle with meat consumption and have been trying to have meatless meals as often as possible, as I view all life as sacred and all animals as sentient enough to at least fear death.
That being said, everything else you stated doesn’t make sense to me at all.
You’re equating the two like they are equal, but I don’t think they are. There’s certainly a distinction between domesticated animals that are captive their entire lives being slaughtered and hunting down wild animals for furs, especially since a lot of the animals used for furs aren’t eaten, they are killed solely for the fur.
The thought process behind “fashion which can be stretched out for a while vs meat/milk which is used almost immediately” must’ve been absolutely wild and thought out for about 12 seconds. You are aware of leather, right? And I’d say energy and nutrition are much more valuable than fashion.
Downvoting because this isn’t unpopular, it’s just goofy and half-baked.
I agree. That’s why I’m not against leather or fur either.
When you eat say beef, all the meat and edible organs get eaten, hides get sent to tanneries to make leather, bi-products get used for various purposes, essentially the vast majority of the cow gets used.
When we are talking about furs and morality it’s usually something like mink, where they’re really only concerned about the fur and often don’t use the other parts of the animal. They also tend to be killed in less humane ways like electrocution to preserve the furs.
If your argument is that its all wrong you won’t hear an argument from me, but I do believe the fur industry in general promotes more suffering and is more wasteful
I agree that it’s hypocritical. I wonder how many people that are so fucking against fur on social media comments like instagram eat meat (prob most)
As a vegetarian for animal rights purposes I actually disagree. Fur/Leather/Other Skin doesn’t “last forever” in today’s modern society it is completely pointless with the alternatives available. Don’t get me wrong you can go without meat/animal by-products just as easily. Though it is still used as nutrition which therefore extends ones life/makes someone healthier etc. It serves a more valid purpose than skins.
I mean people care more about small cute animals than the animals we eat. Which is a bit hypocritical but in a sense it can help save more lives since a cow or pig makes many many meals for many people. Whereas to get one fur garment you have to kill lots of animals for the one product.
We also should be encouraging all steps of saving animals. If someone is against fur but eats meat that is still better than someone who uses fur and eats meat. When you are encouraging they are more likely to extend their reasoning to other areas of their life. Calling them hypocrites or otherwise being argumentative is discouraging and could make someone go back in the other direction not caring about animals at all.
Its unethical from a standpoint that during the Industrial Revolution there was a lot of waste. People would go out and mass slaughter beavers and minks, take the pelt, and leave the carcass. Its not like that anymore. Fur is now farmed and the pelts are taken and the carcass and meat is reprocessed into other goods. With the amount of hunting restrictions, quotas, and great work by Game and Animal Control, the issues of wild animals is not what it used to be. Most pelts now are farmed and at lower volumes. Fur is the most ethical it has ever been and the unethical fur beliefs are still coming from people who believe the fur industry sets up bear traps all over Yellowstone, skins them, and leaves the animal to rot. Thats not the way anymore. Fur is one of the most policed markets in developed countries and as long as you are getting fur from developed countries that have game restrictions, the fur market is fine. Now if you are getting fur from Myanmar from a Red Panda… thats a different story. At this point fur is no longer the main product, its just a by product.
Before you even begin saying “recycled into fashion that stretches across time” and “meat/milk is a few meals and forgotten forever”, please enlighten me on the exact animal that was used to source your animal derived clothing. If it is that important to you, you should know the exact animal (not species, like actual exact animal). If you don’t then it simply doesn’t matter and is in the same category as the meat, just being completely forgotten.