For context:
Cuomo on NN interviewing Amie Parnes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LbzAKF9oOs
Jonathan Allen interviewed on Breaking Points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atYjlk2CubM
The two authors claimed in their new book that Biden, Obama, and Pelosi engaged in alot of political backstabbing which knee capped Kamala, that Pelosi did not want Kamala as the frontrunner, and that apparently Kamala and Walz were entirely dumbfounded by their loss.
You think any of this is true? Is it surprising to you? Or is this pretty well recognized faults?
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For context:
Cuomo on NN interviewing Amie Parnes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LbzAKF9oOs
Jonathan Allen interviewed on Breaking Points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atYjlk2CubM
The two authors claimed in their new book that Biden, Obama, and Pelosi engaged in alot of political backstabbing which knee capped Kamala, that Pelosi did not want Kamala as the frontrunner, and that apparently Kamala and Walz were entirely dumbfounded by their loss.
You think any of this is true? Is it surprising to you? Or is this pretty well recognized faults?
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>…the Democratic Party had [a lot of] political backstabbing in the Kamala Campaign?
I believe it, but…
Do we have any reason to believe that there was more “political backstabbing in the Kamala Campaign” than in other campaigns?
Maybe this is just normal.
I don’t understand how Harris and Walz were dumb founded by their loss. Everything was indicating a close election.
If you look at how Biden dropped out of the race, a few days after saying he wasn’t as well as his team saying the morning of he wasn’t and then sends a letter on his personal letterhead. Makes me speculate whether or not he made that decision which begs so many more questions as to did he endorse Harris as a handcuff to the party to her, did they have others waiting in the wings who they planned on running. Interested to see what comes of this but I’m not holding my breath for that level of detail considering the implications
I’m sure that there is a bunch of truth in this. There’s also some stuff in there that’s going to be highly slanted towards one faction or another.
The authors of this book have collaborated in the past, and the books tend to be very gossipy, but they tend to be forgotten after the initial cycle. A lot of what they put together seems to be at the level of Hollywood gossip which makes sense since Washington has often been called Hollywood for ugly people.
My guess is that better books and articles will be written about the campaign
Sure, but who tf cares?
I’m sure there was maneuvering, but I don’t know about backstabbing. They presented an extremely unified front for Harris after Biden dropped out. There was no obvious alternative to Harris at that point, but anyone could’ve thrown their hat in the ring. It would be big news if any big name was intimidated into not running. It seemed more like no one wanted to risk their reputation on a foreshortened campaign.
Haven’t read it. I would be curious though.
Watched the interview. This is nothing new. We knew that a lot of democrats felt that reopening the primary was too last minute after Biden dropped out. He should have dropped long before the first debate with Trump.
The political backstabbing mentioned is really just everyone having differing opinions and taking sides. No one at the end of the day is saying Biden should have stayed in the race.
Some people wanted Kamala. Some people wanted Shapiro or Newsom. But the reality is the Democrats had a few months to get messaging on a new candidate and they fumbled after a strong initial push.
Biden backstabbed the nation by merely dropping out instead of resigning.
I think Biden waited until the absolute last last last minute because he was mad about the age stuff
I am sure there’s at least a kernel of truth to it. It doesn’t surprise me at all: people at that level of the democratic party have two priorities: protecting their donors’ wealth, and preserving their legacy and/or power.
Tim Walz has said he knew they had lost fairly early in the evening. He’s also been very honest about what he sees as the campaign’s flaws in his current speaking tour, which is refreshing.